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    Free Will, Predeterminism and Predestination

    Take a look at the verse below , and ask yourself ,who's gonna do this MARK CHAPTER 13 KJV 11 But when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take no thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak...
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    Free Will, Predeterminism and Predestination

    copy scripture and paste , not computer savy .Looks funny to me sometimes as well, I try to review before I post , but I'm at work most times when I'm here
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    Free Will, Predeterminism and Predestination

    He told Jeremiah ,He was justified before he was placed in his mothers womb ,therefore he was saved
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    Free Will, Predeterminism and Predestination

    Guess that's the problem, your like of concern of God's Word
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    Free Will, Predeterminism and Predestination

    Serious question , but anyway.
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    Free Will, Predeterminism and Predestination

    What happened before the Garden ?
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    Free Will, Predeterminism and Predestination

    The elect were justified ahead of time , you say born again , do you know what that means ?
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    Free Will, Predeterminism and Predestination

    All good , let's go to the scripture Gonna give you all scripture on this , so it may be a tad long anything you wanna discuss further within these verses is welcomed . Let's start at the beginning Genesis 1:1 "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." There are two...
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    Free Will, Predeterminism and Predestination

    Hoping the same one you reading
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    Free Will, Predeterminism and Predestination

    Yes , that's exactly what I'm saying, he was persecuting Christians but yet God put a stop to that, why is God wrong? No , of course He's not , but then you ask yourself , why did God stop him (Paul) from doing wrong , like literally interfering in his life As for 2a ,where do you think you...
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    Free Will, Predeterminism and Predestination

    1. I really don't care what you sound like and all those whom are saved and or became saved are NOT chosen . Dude on the cross beside Christ ,wasn't chosen , but he chose at that time to believe and he was saved . 2. Didn't say they Elect did not sin, as all have sinned and come short. Paul...
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    Free Will, Predeterminism and Predestination

    It was not His purpose for man to be born of flesh
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    Free Will, Predeterminism and Predestination

    Can't do that ,as we ALL are not chosen ,it's like that's the difference in freewill ,the Elect don't have it ,they were already justified . Imagine standing before God and asking Him why didn't He interfere with me as you did with them , God is fair . A full 1/3 of God's children followed...
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    Free Will, Predeterminism and Predestination

    What , did not scripture state He appoints whom He will , so now I'm trying to figure out where politics came into this thread
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    Free Will, Predeterminism and Predestination

    Nothing ,the Elect are Chosen Acts 9:15 "But the Lord said unto him, "Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto Me, to bear My name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel:" So now let's go to when they were chosen Ephesians 1:4 "According...
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    Free Will, Predeterminism and Predestination

    In charge of what ?
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    Free Will, Predeterminism and Predestination

    Nobody is better than anybody , never implied that , and I'm not a Calvinist . The elect have a special purpose , and that is to make sure the Word of God comes to pass exactly as it's written
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    Free Will, Predeterminism and Predestination

    Which part ?
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