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    The NT insists that you must obey Jesus to gain eternal life!

    In the end of it all, it really is Philippians 2:12 Eph 2:8~~For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; Philippians 2:12~~So then, my beloved, just as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence...
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    Growth Suggested Reading for Israel/Church Distinctions

    See what you guys think? I see christ as clearing out all of gehenna, Paradise included at His ascension. OT Saints and the demons went to the third Heaven. The demons only to go back after they were publicly displayed to await the final act of their judgement. Eph 4:8-10~~ 8 Therefore it...
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    Growth Suggested Reading for Israel/Church Distinctions

    Hello Deb, This is gr8grace, the site would not let me in for some reason, so I went back to my old profile and it worked! I mention this because i have went through the noose of those other forums and don't like it! I am going to stay clear of those forums. I had often lost my temper and...
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    Growth Suggested Reading for Israel/Church Distinctions

    I agree Tom. From my studies, I have come to the same conclusions. OT saints/Church/Millenium Saints all have different promises and futures. All saved and wonderfully placed, just with differing ranks,rewards,"duties" and locations. Perfectly placed by our Lord.
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    Growth Suggested Reading for Israel/Church Distinctions

    Darby often gets the blame for "starting dispensational" teaching. He was probably the first to systematize the doctrine. However, Dispensational Ideas and beliefs go back to the early church fathers and teachers. Their teachings were "peppered" with dispensational thoughts and beliefs. Here is...
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    Growth Suggested Reading for Israel/Church Distinctions

    Distinctions Between Israel and the Church Israel / Church Shadow Christology/ Historical Christology Covenants/ Baptism of the Spirit Jewish Client Nation/ Gentile Client Nations Old Testament Canon/ New Testament Canon Shekinah Glory indwelt the Holy of Holies/ Every...
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    Growth Comment on “The Church Age”

    Gen 13:14-15, “The LORD said to Abram, after Lot had separated from him, “Now lift up your eyes and look from the place where you are, northward and southward and eastward and westward; for all the land which you see, I will give it to you and to your descendants forever.” Gen 15:18, “On that...
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    Growth Comment on “The Church Age”

    I I think, after the millenium, The entire new Earth is Israels. The Promise in its entirety and finally fulfilled to Israel. I think you are overlooking all the things you have gained by being a Christian. But honestly Jason, The way you cling to your bloodline and your "Jewishness" proves...
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    Growth Comment on “The Church Age”

    "I will give to you and to your descendants after you, the land of your sojournings, all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession; and I will be their God." Genesis 17:8 This is a literal promise and to a specific people.
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    Growth Comment on “The Church Age”

    Hes not starting another Church. He is once again going to focus on His Royal people and once and for all establish His Royal people, the Jews. They will be in right relationship with their King in the end. You are a believer in Christ Brother, you are His Royal family. I think it goes back to...
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    Eternal life being tormented in Hell or Death, What is the wages of sin?

    You must of overlooked it, because its even in the Greek you posted.......ἐστιν. and I can even give you 2 more quick references other than the one already posted if you would like, that verify that you do have the correct Greek posted. Just the wrong literal translation of rev 20:14 Some will...
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    Loving the Lord, not the world

    I agree.
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    Eternal life being tormented in Hell or Death, What is the wages of sin?

    Sorry Chessman I see how it looks in my post. Eimi is a separate word from thanatos. I tried to post the whole verse parsed out but it comes up a complete mess! Greek ConC/Wrd==**Parsing ============ ==== Trans. of REV 20: 14 T/ord kai 2532 ---- ---- --- -- conj--- and 1 o 3588 mas artl nom s...
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    Loving the Lord, not the world

    John is speaking about the "cosmic SYSTEM" and the things of that SYSTEM. This is what the cosmic System(world) is. 1) Cosmic one: Cosmic one is Satan’s exploitation of believers through their own arrogance. This is his means of influencing the human race. Satan is the author of arrogance...
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    Eternal life being tormented in Hell or Death, What is the wages of sin?

    What do you make of this word in the original language in rev 20:14? eimi 1510 present active indicative 3s ---verb to be/endure 18.....Most usage is "to Exist" Rev 20:14~~Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death(eimi,to be,to endure,to...
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    Growth Comment on “The Church Age”

    I believe they will become the people of God once they believe. The Church age ends with the Rapture.(the numbers are complete and the Family is complete) As far as I can see there will still be gentile nations in the Millenium. Rev 19:15;Rev 20:8 And Israel once again has the responsibility of...
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    Growth Comment on “The Church Age”

    I believe your right on target NC. Jesus Christ has three royal titles or Patents. Royal title: Son Of God.... He is a sovereign king as part of the Trinity, possessing all the attributes of divine essence. Royal title: Son Of David..... Because of the virgin birth, our Lord was born Jewish...
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    Did Jesus lie in your bible?

    Hello Edward, Can you show me where "yet" is in the original language in John 7:8....8 Go ye up unto this feast: I go not up yet unto this feast: for my time is not yet full come. The first "Yet" in that verse is not in any of my reference books. It looks to me that the KJV "added" the first...
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    Where does the comma go?

    In the biblical sense of Apostles, none truly known by you. And I am ok with that. Thats being a smart butt on my part, but look, there were definite and certain criteria for Apostles. So to believe that Apostles are around today, we have to see and hear these specifications. 1. They had to be...
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    Where does the comma go?

    In the biblical sense, there are no Apostles alive at this time. In the biblical sense there are no prophets at this time. The pastor-teacher starts churches and He discerns and expounds on the completed word or revelation. They are not going to add or take from what is perfect(the Word) An...
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