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    pre trib rapture a dangerous ploy to deceive

    Re: pre trib rapture a dangerous ploy of satan to deceive A pre trib believer is not going to fall for a false Christ "coming to get them". There is no time to stand around and Guess or fall for a false Christ. We are just Gone. If someone or thing trys to convince us other wise, we KNOW that...
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    Message to GOD"S elect

    Re: Not for our sins only, but for the sin of the world... Boy JLB, I really think that a moderator needs to step in on this one. We should not be taking a PART of a sentence from another and apply what ever we feel to It. You are cutting part of my sentence out and applying a different...
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    pre trib rapture a dangerous ploy to deceive

    Re: pre trib rapture a dangerous ploy of satan to deceive I would still like to Know what the Danger is for believers that believe in the Pre trib. We wont fall for a false Christ that actually talks to us, he doesn't have time to convince us.
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    pre trib rapture a dangerous ploy to deceive

    Re: pre trib rapture a dangerous ploy of satan to deceive Yeah Kiwi has it right. Plus I don't get many Amens around Here!
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    pre trib rapture a dangerous ploy to deceive

    Re: pre trib rapture a dangerous ploy of satan to deceive because that believer believes that He will be put to the test and Has to discern between truth and lie. Pre trib believers KNOW that it is all a lie, and we are just GONE.
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    pre trib rapture a dangerous ploy to deceive

    Re: pre trib rapture a dangerous ploy of satan to deceive Here is a great old post, Originally Posted by thisnumbersdisconnected And again, in the context of the rest of the Bible it can be shown that He absolutely was not talking about the last day of history, but of the church age. I'm...
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    pre trib rapture a dangerous ploy to deceive

    Re: pre trib rapture a dangerous ploy of satan to deceive No, you have seen em all, just as I have. You just see them differently. Logic of my interpretation still stands. A pre trib believer will not fall for false Christs that have dialog with us. We have no time for dialog with a false...
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    OSAS is biblical truth.

    For I am convinced that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor things present, nor things to come, nor powers, nor height, nor depth, nor any other created thing, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. (Romans 8:38-39) zoe -...
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    Who Manifested Who?

    Its interesting that the genealogy of Jesus through Mary is given right after that verse . The legal line is given in Matt 1. The Spirit revealing who the Father really is? The Holy Spirit? What do you think?
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    Who Manifested Who?

    Because the Holy Spirit played a role in it also. I have never really sat down and wrote out an explanation or carried my thoughts out to were I am comfortable to post it and get my point across. Just wanting to see what others thought. Very, very simple though Dave, God the Father made the...
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    Who Manifested Who?

    To your question, both. One Question though, were is the Holy Spirit in this?
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    OSAS is biblical truth.

    And the Law came in that the transgression might increase; but where sin increased, grace abounded all the more, that, as sin reigned in death, even so grace might reign through righteousness to eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. (Romans 5:20-21) Eternal security is related to...
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    pre trib rapture a dangerous ploy to deceive

    Re: pre trib rapture a dangerous ploy of satan to deceive Yeah, so you didn't read my post. Pre trib believers wont fall for that. no one has a chance to try to convince us that "they are here for us" we are just GONE. No one has a chance to explain things. Its in the twinkle of an eye. Mid...
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    pre trib rapture a dangerous ploy to deceive

    Re: pre trib rapture a dangerous ploy of satan to deceive Just curious, What are the specific ramifications for Christians for believing the Pre trib?
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    pre trib rapture a dangerous ploy to deceive

    Re: pre trib rapture a dangerous ploy of satan to deceive The truth of the Pre trib does not harm anyone. In fact it saves people from deception.....example: If one believes in the pre trib rapture not one person or thing is going to walk up to them and say ,"I am the Christ" and have...
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    OSAS is biblical truth.

    A denial is just a denial. It does nothing for your point of view.
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    OSAS is biblical truth.

    Holy cow Jethro, calm down. Heb 3:1-6 Holy brother and sisters with the heavenly calling are compared to MOSES. Moses was a holy Brother that was a leader over Gods House. He was a super grace believer, mature and CALLED by God to rule over Gods house in the OT. His heavenly...
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    Message to GOD"S elect

    Re: Not for our sins only, but for the sin of the world... I did NOT say that. I said all men have been saved from their sins. they will not pay for their sins. Christ made that payment. Christ was held accountable for all sin. It is not a sin issue. It is a Son issue.
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    Message to GOD"S elect

    Re: Not for our sins only, but for the sin of the world... Did Christ pay for all sin?
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    Message to GOD"S elect

    Re: Not for our sins only, but for the sin of the world... Another view that was left out in this post is the Christian view of the Atonement. The Christian view : Unlimited atonement. The unlimited atonement is the saving work of Christ on the Cross on behalf of every member of the human...
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