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That God speaks to us, and he uses people like you and me to do it. Yet, you and me never to cease to be ourselves. That is verbal plenary inspiration.

Please define the word "our," then you will understand my point. I also don't see how you said no verbal plenary required. This is a view that effects every text.

You are free to ignore everything I just said, as well as understand how Verbal Plenary Inspiration works and assert that God says his own works are filthy rags, that is in fact what you are claiming by saying that God said this in the first person.

Have you ever heard of Corporate Election? I too reject the belief that God merely looked into the future and saw who would believe and then elected these people. I embrace Corporate Election, which is that God has ordained to Elect a People, and in the Old Covenant this people was defined...

Hi friend, I do not think that Deborah is calling God the source or author of evil, because she doesn't actually believe in Calvinism. Rather, she thinks the logical conclusion of Calvinism is that he is the author of evil. That if all events and actions are predetermined, not on the basis of...

Let's look at the text. "We have all become like one who is unclean, and all our righteous deeds are like a polluted garment. We all fade like a leaf, and our iniquities, like the wind, take us away." Isaiah 64:6 (ESV) The author indicates that he belongs to this group, when I say, "would you...

Correct, Isaiah 66:5-6 even makes the distinction of God meeting the one who joyfully works righteousness, but due to Israel's hypocrisy and Idolatry their righteous deeds are as filthy rags. He isn't saying that works are filthy rags in and of themselves, the Holy Spirit wrought works that...

There is a huge difference in trusting a bridge, and trusting in Christ. That a person can come to Christ without being drawn or empowered. This has historically been rejected as semi-pelagianism. "No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him. And I will raise him up on the...

God is certainly not a weak God, and I definitely do not think that Calvinism is the only one who promotes a powerful God. Would you think that God is weak for choosing to respect the free will of humanity? That although he could destroy them, or he could choose to save them all, he has...

I actually noted that here: "Also, key to their understanding is how this affects man's ability to respond to the gospel, which they will assert that it requires regeneration." Also, do you think that man is of his own power able to respond to the gospel? Can you elaborate on your...

Let's start off with a definition from a Calvinistic Source on this matter. "This universal depravity of men is no slight evil. The whole human race, by their apostasy from God, are totally depraved. By total depravity, is not meant that all men are equally wicked; nor that any man is as...

Somewhat, though I have heard it presented in a different order as it was with John Piper's lengthy examination of the 5 points. Total Depravity is a good place to start though, I will create a thread about this sometime soon.

I can start a thread particular to a certain aspect of the TULIP. Which one would you like to see discussed the most, Total Depravity, Unconditional Election, Limited Atonement or Irresistible Grace. (I wouldn't want to do Perseverance of the Saints, as there are too many OSAS threads on this...

I said that a little strangely, basically I am noting that a person might not have eternal life in the future, as it's experience is contingent on faith and unity with Christ. Why do you think it is through the close disciples, and no where is their word's noted. Rather we have a prayer for...

It seems that you and I are using the word "quantitative" differently, in that I am using it in regards to aionios' temporal elements, i.e. duration of time. When from what I can gather you are using it in regards to the different parts of the definition of aionios? Please clarify what you...

Precisely, good post!

I would be careful with this view, which seems like a form of Docetism, where Jesus basically inhabited a human body with a divine spirit. Jesus was fully and truly a man. Jesus still intercedes for us at the right hand of the Father as our Great High Priest, See Hebrews. Where did you learn...

I think that is besides the point, and we could perhaps start a new thread about the qualitative meaning vs quantitative meaning of "eternal life," however my contention is that to infer OSAS in this word simply does not fit. "Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes him...

Understood, I have address jbird privately on this matter. Thank you!

I too take the subject very seriously. If you would like we could have a more focused debate, with a 1 post limit each per round. That would be more fair to your time constraints. We also didn't mean for you to feel like you wasted your time, another venue and what you wrote would have been...