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    romans 9 study

    Really? You just want to have a no-it-sn't/yes-it-is back and forth argument? What are we 5 years old?
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    romans 9 study

    No, SBG, the problem Paul is seeking to clarify is that the Jews can't believe that some new crazy people (the Apostles) are teaching that now the Gentiles have been let into God's family. It's an important difference. Let's discuss this one because if we get this wrong it taints how we see...
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    romans 9 study

    SBG, you've slightly missed the context. The question isn't why are so many ethnic Jews not believeing in Christ and did that mean God's salvific purpose for Israel had failed. Rather, the issue Paul is dealing with is that for hundreds, if not thousands of years, the Jews had thought that...
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    God's Sovereignty And The Church

    @dadof10 and @francisdesales : I got to the point where I realized it wasn't their fault that had to be corrected, it was mine for responding to them.
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    romans 9 study

    You're right Childeye, that is the point of Romans 9. However, some would like to add to that understanding that Paul is teaching that God has decided to predestine some for eternal life and some for eternal death. Sound unbeliveable? Look into Calvinism and Arminianism and you'll see what I...
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    romans 9 study

    Apparently
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    romans 9 study

    Paul has a lot of things in mind, salvation is one of them. But even in these two quotes there is no doctrine of individual election. Look very closely at them. Nowhere is Paul saying that He chose some and not others. Paul's message in Romans 9, as well as Ephesians, Galatians. et. al., is...
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    Predestination

    Smaller, you point out an excellent fraility of Calvinism. One that sounds the death knell for the theology. In fact, I know I own a book where the author uses this as his capstone for the argument against Calvinism, but I can't seem to remember which one it was??? Oh well.
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    Predestination

    If Semi-pelagian and Arminian views were the only two views outside of Calvinism then I would say you are correct. However, it is quite limited thinking to suggest that my viewpoint must reside within one of these two views. The Universal work God has done is He has set aside all our sins so...
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    Predestination

    Here, Mondar, instead of arguing about the true definition of Pelagianism (of which we do not actually disagree, we just keep going around in circles about who quoted what of the wiki page) or for that matter going into Augustinianism, or Semi-pelagianism, or any other doctrine I'll state here...
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    Predestination

    Wow.
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    Why are Calvinist concidered Christians, but JWs, and Mormons are not?

    watchman, I too have studied the other religions of the world, and I too see the inherent difficulties of Calvinism and what it says about the qualities of God. But you're braver than I to post the OP!
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    Predestination and Foreknowledge are determinate !

    Denny, having 4 kids myself ages 15 - 4 I can appreciate your post! But you didn't logically support your conclusion that foreknowledge is not the same as predetermined. In your example of the parent and the toddler, the parent does not truly have foreknowledge, not in the absolute certainty...
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    Predestination

    It's silly to argue this and I don't know why I'm stooping to it, but I guess it's because of the ludicrous claims you are making, saying that I did not quote the definition, that I did not read the entire article, and that I could not read the article or even get the proper context of the...
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    Predestination

    Ok, Mondar, you're right, I didn't post the entire Wiki definition for Pelagianism. But neither did you. I do believe that man can choose good from evil but I believe that it is only with Divine aid. Yet I believe that God aids all men, not just some, so that anyone can choose right (with His...
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    Predestination

    From Wikipedia.org under "Pelagianism": "When Pelagius taught that moral perfection was attainable in this life without the assistance of divine grace through human free will, Augustine contradicted this by saying that perfection was impossible without grace because we are born sinners with a...
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    Predestination

    The Pelagians believed that man was capable of living a completely sinless life so no, I do not believe in pelagianism. Augustine preached a seemingly opposite theology of man having the inability to do any spiritual good without the regeneration of God, which He only bestows on certain people...
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    Predestination

    Hi Mondar. Oh, I've read plenty of books on Calvinism and Arminianism and I've studied all the important theologians from Augustine on up and I think I understand where Calvinists are coming from. But thanks for recommending the reading. Well, that's not entirely true. Some Calvinists don't...
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    Predestination

    Outstanding, Drew. In fact, defeating this notion of Jewish ethnic privilege is at the very heart of Paul's entire ministry. When he calls himself the apostle to the Gentiles, he's essentially saying that the Jews already thought they were God's children due to their ethnicity and now he's...
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    Predestination

    Haven't read Dan Wallace yet (actually, never even heard of him) but to me the question isn't really whether God elects individually or corporately. The much bigger questions is whether we are to believe that some people are elected to blessings and some are elected (or reprobated, however you...
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