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    [_ Old Earth _] Hey Barbarian

    This is an old thread, but I will reply anyway. In response to the dinosaurs perishing in the flood, that is contrary to what the bible said. The bible said 2 of each animal, not 2 of each animal except some, or 2 of most animals. Dinosaurs are never mentioned in the Bible because they were...
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    [_ Old Earth _] Why more and more evangelicals accept evolutionI chose my blog title to acknowledge that a growing n

    I have a degree in Biology, albeit only a bachelors so I know a little about genetics and I will agree with you. I'm also a devout Christian who knows the Bible and I will still agree with you, because the Bible does not talk about evolution nor the age of the earth. I will say that while...
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    The difference between the rapture and the second coming

    I am new to this thread and I hope I come across in a humble and friendly manner. If I don't forgive me but I get excited when talking about the word of God. Matthew 24:38-42 is not talking about a "rapture." Look closely at what the scripture is saying and try not to read into it. 38 - For...
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    IS THERE A RAPTURE? Who will go? WHO'S THE BRIDE?

    Look. My views do have to do with the rapture. Since we are discussing the rapture, I don't see why my position should be excluded simply because I am saying that my position is that there might be no rapture. Chopper said this thread would be open to discussing anything about the rapture...
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    IS THERE A RAPTURE? Who will go? WHO'S THE BRIDE?

    I am replying with scriptures from Matthew 24 and talking about it. What more do you want? I am giving you the scriptures and explaining my view. Isn't that what we are doing here? Some folks gave scripture and posted they were pre-trib and others for mid-trib and so on. Well, I took the...
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    IS THERE A RAPTURE? Who will go? WHO'S THE BRIDE?

    Let me reword this Chopper, so that maybe we can stay here with it. I believe that the "tribulation" that NT talks about in Matthew 24 and Revelation as well as Daniel, has already occurred - the destruction of the temple, end of temple sacrifice, judgment on Israel, on nations participating in...
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    IS THERE A RAPTURE? Who will go? WHO'S THE BRIDE?

    Hi again chopper. Truly, my position is no-trib. While I am still researching, as I do, I am beginning to see that there will be no rapture, and there is no tribulation. As you saw in my post, the tribulation Jesus is talking about is the destruction of the temple, Jerusalem and the...
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    IS THERE A RAPTURE? Who will go? WHO'S THE BRIDE?

    Hello Chopper. It's a bit difficult to give 6 scriptures to back my position when what I am saying is simply that the scriptures mentioned here are misinterpreted by reading the rapture into them. But I will give this a try. But first in order to back my stance on the rapture or lack of, I will...
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    IS THERE A RAPTURE? Who will go? WHO'S THE BRIDE?

    I don't see this scripture as rapture theology. I believe it's talking about the 2nd coming of our Lord. It continues in 1 Thessalonians 5. The coming of the Lord. It says the dead will rise first and then those who remain alive shall be caught up together with them. Well, the dead will...
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    IS THERE A RAPTURE? Who will go? WHO'S THE BRIDE?

    What should one who doesn't think the rapture is biblical do? I am neither pre nor mid nor post because I don't think the Bible addresses a rapture.
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    IS THERE A RAPTURE? Who will go? WHO'S THE BRIDE?

    Hello Again. Consider this. I have come to the conclusion that the rapture is something people are reading into the Bible text. Someone mentioned as being rapture theology 1 Corinthians 15:20-24 is talking about Jesus being the first one and because of His resurrection we can see ours when...
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    IS THERE A RAPTURE? Who will go? WHO'S THE BRIDE?

    The rapture is something that is not scriptural, in my opinion. It is something that is read into scripture. According to some sources the rapture doctrine did not exist before John Darby invented it in 1830 AD. Before it "popped into John Darby's head" no one had ever heard of a secret...
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    IS THERE A RAPTURE? Who will go? WHO'S THE BRIDE?

    Hello again Chopper. If we come to an agreement in which we realize there is not a rapture, what becomes of the tribulation. Are we interpreting correctly what the Bible is saying when it's referring to a tribulation. Hmmm. Food for though. If there isn't a rapture, then the idea of pre, mid...
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    IS THERE A RAPTURE? Who will go? WHO'S THE BRIDE?

    I agree with you Free
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    IS THERE A RAPTURE? Who will go? WHO'S THE BRIDE?

    Here are other scriptures that some folks believe it refers to the Rapture - John 14:1-3, Acts 1:9-11, 1 Corinthians 15:51-52, 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 but after reading these verses I believe it is talking about the coming of Jesus, not the rapture. Also Philippians 3:20-21 talks about the...
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    IS THERE A RAPTURE? Who will go? WHO'S THE BRIDE?

    Hello Chopper. I posted on Matthew 24:40-44 and on why I don't think it has anything to do with a rapture. This is what I find to be true, that is my opinion, on Matthew 24:30-36. The key verse is Matthew 24:34 where Jesus says "I tell you the truth, THIS generation will certainly not pass...
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    IS THERE A RAPTURE? Who will go? WHO'S THE BRIDE?

    Hello Chopper. This is what I found on the dating of Revelation and Irenaeous. Consider this passage from his writings. "We will not, however, incur the risk of pronouncing positively as to the name of Antichrist; for if it were necessary that his name should be distinctly revealed in this...
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    IS THERE A RAPTURE? Who will go? WHO'S THE BRIDE?

    Hello. You mentioned that Matthew 24:40-44 supports Pre-Trib position of the Rapture. Bear with me now, as I will explain myself and let me know what you think. Matthew 24:36-39 talks about the flood that occurred during Noah's time. It mentions that people were carrying on until the day...
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    IS THERE A RAPTURE? Who will go? WHO'S THE BRIDE?

    I will agree with you Edward. There isn't a lot of unity within the body of the church.
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    IS THERE A RAPTURE? Who will go? WHO'S THE BRIDE?

    Hello Chopper. I like this thread. This is a great idea. One thing though we must take into consideration before we start, in my opinion, is something that has given me a lot of trouble. When was the book of Revelation written, in the 90's AD or before 70 AD and the destruction of the temple...
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