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    Should Christians listen to the Beatles?

    Their pre-1965 stuff was mostly forgettable. The rest of it was incredibly amazing. You cannot beat it. Sgt. Pepper is by most sources the greatest album of all time, including me :D
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    Should Christians listen to the Beatles?

    They're by far the greatest band of all time. There are a few drug references here and there but Lennon will increase your moral understanding 50 fold. Depends how fundie you are.
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    The role of religion in modern society

    What it's role is at the moment: Depends which country you're in. If it's the United States then religion is a politically essential (you cannot hold public office unless you affirm continuously your faith) doctrine for the explicit moral guidance of the people, in both the public and private...
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    [_ Old Earth _] Everything must have a cause

    Yes, you are correct in saying you're not alone in noticing this. Carl Sagan once said that if everything must have a cause then so must God, and if you propose that God is causeless then why not cut out one step and say the universe is causeless. We don't know what came before the big bang...
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    [_ Old Earth _] Literal or Figurative 6 Day Creation

    People have it wrong lol, the absurd thing isn't saying that God created us in 6 days, the absurd thing to say is that he didn't use evolution.
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    Atheist Dialog 1: Euthyphro Dilemma

    Take juggling potatoes, and hypothetically you have 10 potatoes at once. If you can keep all 10 in your hands then you're doing it perfectly, if you drop 1 then you're doing it 90% correct, if you drop them all then you're not doing it at all. Do you see what I mean? Perfection is simply a...
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    The Literal Bible and Evolution

    Lol, so what exactly are you proposing? Faith? For example, this is what I propose: 1. Observe facts 2. Create an unsupported explanation that fits those facts 3. So some experiments to verify your prediction 4. Publish your results 5. Listen to criticisms, adjust hypothesis as required 6...
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    How about taking Christ OUT of Christmas?

    Trolling? Where is this trolling? I've adhered to that rule perfectly. I haven't been trolling in the slightest. If you consider the slightest criticism of your position trolling then you need to get a new position lol.
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    The Literal Bible and Evolution

    Yeah I know, it doesn't really matter, but it always helps. Nevermind. So wait, are you saying what I think you're saying (I need clarification)? Are you saying that He created the universe 6 thousand years ago then made it look like it was 13.7 billion years old? I don't see why it needs to...
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    A hypothetical about Heaven :)

    You see I find that rather evil. That's fine, although not biblically correct as far as what everyone else is saying lol.
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    The Literal Bible and Evolution

    That's nice. Agreed Uh oh, here is comes lol, we were getting along so well up until now :( Think you could provide the quote? It only takes a second, I try to do it where I can, and it adds a load of credibility to your argument. Anyway, I have a few objections: 1. "Could have" means...
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    A hypothetical about Heaven :)

    That's an argument put forward in Pascal's Wager, which postulates that it is a better "bet" to believe that God exists than not to believe, because the expected value of believing (which Pascal assessed as infinite) is always greater than the expected value of not believing. Basically what...
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    How about taking Christ OUT of Christmas?

    An Agnostic is someone who doesn't make a claim to knowledge, this is a statement about knowledge, An Atheist is someone who doesn't believe the claims of Theism. I don't make a positive claim to knowledge, neither do I believe the claims of Theism, therefore I'm an Agnostic Atheist. You can...
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    A hypothetical about Heaven :)

    There's a reason why they put the punishment for non-belief at an infinite level, because it takes a lot to make a man abandon his logic & intellectual honesty.
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    How about taking Christ OUT of Christmas?

    I don't see how you can dispute my opinion on the best presidents, don't I know my own opinion better than you do? If you're disputing that they were liberals: Thomas Jefferson - Separation of Church and State anyone? Opposition to slave ownership? Lincoln - A Republican in the time when...
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    How about taking Christ OUT of Christmas?

    We were spending a good 500 billion a year on the military (more than almost all other countries combined) I doubt that a little morale issue would be that big of a problem lol, on top of that if war ever broke out it wouldn't be helpful no matter how large and inspired your military was because...
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    How about taking Christ OUT of Christmas?

    The Soviet Union (As any honest historian will tell you) was brought down by economic troubles + other factors, it had almost nothing to do with Reagan's dangerous parade of nuclear and conventional power, his antagonism towards the Soviet Union almost got us all killed, and the fact that it...
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    How about taking Christ OUT of Christmas?

    Fundamentalism is Religion + Nationalism, this holds true lol. Reagan was a terrible president, his Liberal Economic policies have almost destroyed the nation, he gave arms to foreign nations at war, and he almost got the world blown up with his stupid Star Wars gamble. He should have stayed an...
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    A hypothetical about Heaven :)

    In that case I'm in the clear! ZING! Why give up your intellectual honesty when you don't have to?
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    The Literal Bible and Evolution

    It's all about standards of evidence and which beliefs are justified. Science doesn't claim to know that evolution or anything else is right, it simply claims that they're the most justified beliefs to have. Everyone has different standards of evidence, if your standard is too low you end up...
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