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The Three Main Teachings of Matt J. Slick
Owner of Christian Research Apologetics Ministry - CARM

The three main teachings of Matt J. Slick are (see link):

a) Calvinism, b) Amillennialism, and c) Pentecostal tongues (non-language, non-syntax gibberish babble).

He is appealing to nearly 2 billion souls, almost all of Christendom, that agree with at least one of these three popular teachings. This is how he tries to reel people in at Christian Research Apologetics Ministry to buy his products. Yet none of these teachings are true.

There is no indications in the Bible the gift of tongues was gibberish babble (as was taught in a second century cult called Montanism). The gift of language is the gift to share the word of God in different languages.
Revelation 20.3 says the nations are not deceived in the 1000 years, but obviously they are still deceived with wars and rumours of wars. Therefore, Amillennialism is false.

And Matt erects the idol of Total depravity which says he is unable to repent and believe in Christ to be regenerated so he worships what he believes to be a God who does not provide sufficient grace to all men to have the choice, but that whoever is saved is irresistibly made to. And the preteritioned are given no grace or opportunity for salvation but are sent to Hell even though it was not their fault they were born into sin. This somehow gives his God glory.

I find that there is no support in the Bible for any of these false teachings. If we were to behave this way we would be sinning. How can God's standards be below our own?

Several other problems arise in Matt's beliefs (see link).

d) Slick believes Jesus is a man outside of time and space even though man can't even exist outside of time and space.

e) Matt believes if a person were to choose what Jesus did for us (so God chose us by foreknowing our free-choice), he would not deserve to be saved even though the condition was fulfilled to be saved by grace through faith.

f) He confuses the spirit as being the soul (the fallen bipartite view of man, not tripartite). This teaching is opposite of what the Bible says: we have both a spirit and a soul (Heb. 4.12, 1 Thess. 5.23).

g) Matt is denominational as he attends a denomination and favors congregationalism rather than Scriptural locality, but the Bible expressly speaks against denominations (don't say "I of Cephas" or "I of Apollos") and congregationalism (Paul additionally said, don't say "I of Christ"). He rejects the organizing of the Church by locality even though we see in the Bible the Apostles worked regionally, they found agreement on important truths in Christ, and they had appointed Elders of each locality (city, town).

The common technique attempted by Matt to thwart these problems, is he will say, "these are not essential to salvation." But the Bible also says we shall know them by their fruit which indicates, taken as a whole, he was never born-again in the first place, for he never truly gave his life to Christ.

Slick's fruit is to worship a false Christ that will not return to reign during the 1000 years on earth and who encourage gibberish babble that pacifies our will and dulls our conscience and intuitive sense. His Christ would have us pridefully assume we are irresistibly selected rather than genuinely and sincerely coming to the cross as helpless sinners to receive the Lord Jesus as Savior.

We are told to accept contradictions such as Jesus is a man outside of time and space even though man exists only inside time and space. We are told we do not deserve to be saved even though we truly repented and believed in Jesus for our salvation. We are also suppose to believe that the functions of intuition, conscience and communion of our spirit are no different than the mind, will and emotion of our soul. And we are to embrace denominationalism and congregationalism even though this was spoken of against in the Scriptures.

Friends, the Bible says we are not to pray for some people because it is clear they will never repent. Matt Slick is one of those people. He is too far gone now. Not even God can help him now as Matt Slick is stuck in his ways for eternity, eternally separated from the Lamb of God, and decidedly prefers a false Christ.

When Matt wakes up from soul sleep a thousand years after Jesus returns, he will see a figure before him who says to him something like, "Matt, I never taught total depravity, nor did my Apostles, that you used as an idol to not genuinely come to me, for the grace of my Father is sufficient for all to have the choice. You never worshiped me and believed on me when you were doing and believing all these things."

Jesus lists them herein, then He continues, "Will you repent now?" Matt will respond effectively, "No you are not my Lord, I don't know you." Then Jesus with a broken heart for Matt casts him into Hell for all eternity.
 
so we damn calvinists eh?

i am not a calvinist,but do you believe in eternal security?

up till calvin that wasnt taught.
yet many non-calvinists accept that.

and what of isiah 66:20,21?

its a hard thing to dismiss when the bible says that in the millenial the idea of grace has reverted back to the ot sacrifice that men wont be saved like we in the church age,but must follow the ot way.

and i am millenialist but i struggle with that.
 
so we damn calvinists eh?
The damn themselves. Why blame Christians for recognize this?

i am not a calvinist,but do you believe in eternal security?
Of course. Calvinists don't believe in the same eternal security as OSAS Arminians. The latter don't believe it was forced on us but we had a choice to enter into a relationship where God keeps us.

up till calvin that wasnt taught.
yet many non-calvinists accept that.
Roman Church taught non-OSAS so does Eastern Orthdox. The original Church never taught non-OSAS.


and what of isiah 66:20,21?
What of it?


its a hard thing to dismiss when the bible says that in the millenial the idea of grace has reverted back to the ot sacrifice that men wont be saved like we in the church age,but must follow the ot way.
The millennial kingdom is Jesus reigning with a "rod of iron" in Rev. 19 & 20. Obviously that's not happening yet. Rev. 20.3 says the nations are not deceived in the 1000 years. Obviously they are still deceived now with wars and rumours of wars.

Don't confuse OT verses of Israel as a nation with a person's individual salvation in that nation.
 
The damn themselves. Why blame Christians for recognize this?


Of course. Calvinists don't believe in the same eternal security as OSAS Arminians. The latter don't believe it was forced on us but we had a choice to enter into a relationship where God keeps us.


Roman Church taught non-OSAS so does Eastern Orthdox. The original Church never taught non-OSAS.



What of it?



The millennial kingdom is Jesus reigning with a "rod of iron" in Rev. 19 & 20. Obviously that's not happening yet. Rev. 20.3 says the nations are not deceived in the 1000 years. Obviously they are still deceived now with wars and rumours of wars.

Don't confuse OT verses of Israel as a nation with a person's individual salvation in that nation.

ah but arent you claiming that isreal is part of the prophecy, those millinial verses are related.

look up isiah 65, and revalation 20.

neither has come to pass and take note of the similiarities.

and uh,

you err on tounges big time

howbeit when i speak in toungues i speaketh in mysteries to God.

what did paul mean by that if it wasnt interpreted


1 corinthians 14

14 For if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful.


28But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God.

and here

2For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.

3But he that prophesieth speaketh unto men to edification, and exhortation, and comfort.

4He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifieth himself; but he that prophesieth edifieth the church.

theres two types of toungues, one that is intepreted and another that isnt.
 
The Three Main Teachings of Matt J. Slick
Owner of Christian Research Apologetics Ministry - CARM

The three main teachings of Matt J. Slick are (see link):

a) Calvinism, b) Amillennialism, and c) Pentecostal tongues (non-language, non-syntax gibberish babble).

He is appealing to nearly 2 billion souls, almost all of Christendom, that agree with at least one of these three popular teachings. This is how he tries to reel people in at Christian Research Apologetics Ministry to buy his products. Yet none of these teachings are true.

There is no indications in the Bible the gift of tongues was gibberish babble (as was taught in a second century cult called Montanism). The gift of language is the gift to share the word of God in different languages.
Revelation 20.3 says the nations are not deceived in the 1000 years, but obviously they are still deceived with wars and rumours of wars. Therefore, Amillennialism is false.

And Matt erects the idol of Total depravity which says he is unable to repent and believe in Christ to be regenerated so he worships what he believes to be a God who does not provide sufficient grace to all men to have the choice, but that whoever is saved is irresistibly made to. And the preteritioned are given no grace or opportunity for salvation but are sent to Hell even though it was not their fault they were born into sin. This somehow gives his God glory.

I find that there is no support in the Bible for any of these false teachings. If we were to behave this way we would be sinning. How can God's standards be below our own?

Several other problems arise in Matt's beliefs (see link).

d) Slick believes Jesus is a man outside of time and space even though man can't even exist outside of time and space.

e) Matt believes if a person were to choose what Jesus did for us (so God chose us by foreknowing our free-choice), he would not deserve to be saved even though the condition was fulfilled to be saved by grace through faith.

f) He confuses the spirit as being the soul (the fallen bipartite view of man, not tripartite). This teaching is opposite of what the Bible says: we have both a spirit and a soul (Heb. 4.12, 1 Thess. 5.23).

g) Matt is denominational as he attends a denomination and favors congregationalism rather than Scriptural locality, but the Bible expressly speaks against denominations (don't say "I of Cephas" or "I of Apollos") and congregationalism (Paul additionally said, don't say "I of Christ"). He rejects the organizing of the Church by locality even though we see in the Bible the Apostles worked regionally, they found agreement on important truths in Christ, and they had appointed Elders of each locality (city, town).

The common technique attempted by Matt to thwart these problems, is he will say, "these are not essential to salvation." But the Bible also says we shall know them by their fruit which indicates, taken as a whole, he was never born-again in the first place, for he never truly gave his life to Christ.

Slick's fruit is to worship a false Christ that will not return to reign during the 1000 years on earth and who encourage gibberish babble that pacifies our will and dulls our conscience and intuitive sense. His Christ would have us pridefully assume we are irresistibly selected rather than genuinely and sincerely coming to the cross as helpless sinners to receive the Lord Jesus as Savior.

We are told to accept contradictions such as Jesus is a man outside of time and space even though man exists only inside time and space. We are told we do not deserve to be saved even though we truly repented and believed in Jesus for our salvation. We are also suppose to believe that the functions of intuition, conscience and communion of our spirit are no different than the mind, will and emotion of our soul. And we are to embrace denominationalism and congregationalism even though this was spoken of against in the Scriptures.

Friends, the Bible says we are not to pray for some people because it is clear they will never repent. Matt Slick is one of those people. He is too far gone now. Not even God can help him now as Matt Slick is stuck in his ways for eternity, eternally separated from the Lamb of God, and decidedly prefers a false Christ.

When Matt wakes up from soul sleep a thousand years after Jesus returns, he will see a figure before him who says to him something like, "Matt, I never taught total depravity, nor did my Apostles, that you used as an idol to not genuinely come to me, for the grace of my Father is sufficient for all to have the choice. You never worshiped me and believed on me when you were doing and believing all these things."

Jesus lists them herein, then He continues, "Will you repent now?" Matt will respond effectively, "No you are not my Lord, I don't know you." Then Jesus with a broken heart for Matt casts him into Hell for all eternity.

MY COMMENTS: I believe Matt Slick is wrong on all three counts. I say this based upon my understanding of the Scriptures (as literal as possible).
 
MY COMMENTS: I believe Matt Slick is wrong on all three counts. I say this based upon my understanding of the Scriptures (as literal as possible).
Praise the Lord for your discernment brother.
 
ah but arent you claiming that isreal is part of the prophecy, those millinial verses are related.
Ya when Israel becomes a nation again Jesus returns soon.

look up isiah 65, and revalation 20.
great chapters, thanks for sharing.

neither has come to pass and take note of the similiarities.
The millennial kingdom hasn't started yet and you point is?


?


you err on tounges big time

howbeit when i speak in toungues i speaketh in mysteries to God.

what did paul mean by that if it wasnt interpreted
You're misreading the verse obviously since you are assuming mysteries means gibberish babble. When you speak in a language someone else doesn't know you are speaking mysteries to God because others can't understand.

1 corinthians 14

14 For if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful.
The tongue is unknown to others and is unfruitful then because your understanding is not reaching others.

28But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God.

and here

2For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.

3But he that prophesieth speaketh unto men to edification, and exhortation, and comfort.

4He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifieth himself; but he that prophesieth edifieth the church.

theres two types of toungues, one that is intepreted and another that isnt.
There is only one type of tongue here as language is always syntax.

God is saying don't be selfising praying in words others can't understand.

Don't be selfish.

Another great way to prove most Pentecostals are unsaved is get 5 interpreters and they always give five different interpretations.
 
Ya when Israel becomes a nation again Jesus returns soon.


great chapters, thanks for sharing.


The millennial kingdom hasn't started yet and you point is?



?



You're misreading the verse obviously since you are assuming mysteries means gibberish babble. When you speak in a language someone else doesn't know you are speaking mysteries to God because others can't understand.


The tongue is unknown to others and is unfruitful then because your understanding is not reaching others.


There is only one type of tongue here as language is always syntax.

God is saying don't be selfising praying in words others can't understand.

Don't be selfish.

Another great way to prove most Pentecostals are unsaved is get 5 interpreters and they always give five different interpretations.

really? i have never seen that if the gift is true.

uh why would paul even state that if he speaks it in private, he didnt say that one cant speak in private, just talk to god.

why would god have you speak in an unknown language that you dont understand? between you and him if its only you and him in the conservation?

and next post scofield.

you claim this is the way and date this pre-trib doctrine when in fact before scofield there was no such doctrine

neither the reformers or rcc or orthodox taught this.

i am a millenialist btw but you claim only christians believe in your way.

your claim not mine

shall i also add to your claim that the american colonies werent christians as well after most were calvinists.
 
The Origin Of The Pretrib Rapture Theory

read up on what these guy said on the pre-trib. you will find that prior 1850 it wasnt around.

odd aint it.
Ephraem in the4th century taught a rapture before the Tribulation.

Ephraem of Nisibus (306-373 AD)

However first rapture is according to readiness, not a foregone conclusion for the whole church (Matt. 24.40-42, Luke 21.36, Rev. 3.10). Rev. 7.9 "before the throne" in 3rd heaven occurs before the trumpets of the 7 year Tribulation take place.

In fact when you read the earliest church fathers you can glean some rapture before the Tribulation from lots of them, but the Bible says call no man your father.
 
Ephraem in the4th century taught a rapture before the Tribulation.

Ephraem of Nisibus (306-373 AD)

However first rapture is according to readiness, not a foregone conclusion for the whole church (Matt. 24.40-42, Luke 21.36, Rev. 3.10). Rev. 7.9 "before the throne" in 3rd heaven occurs before the trumpets of the 7 year Tribulation take place.

In fact when you read the earliest church fathers you can glean some rapture before the Tribulation from lots of them, but the Bible says call no man your father.

Jer. 17:1-5 just plain out right is not what God REQUIRES TODAY in 2211! Hosea 4:6 Daniel 12:4

What is it with todays ones, to lazy to study for themselves? to lukewarm? or are they just trying to show some kind of worldly educated kind of vain wisdom???
Who cares about what so & so taught or believed back in the time of their IGNORANCE??:screwloose

An eternal burning hell that even gives maggots immortal life! That you 'desire' to believe to huh? If not, why not then??????

And a rapture?? then why are you still here?? because you are a heathen?? and if you think that you are not TODAY IN THE Matt. 24:21 on Truth, just wait a short time more! WAKE UP kid'o, you ain't going NO PLACE, you are today at the present time IN THIS EXCELLERATING TIME!

--Elijah
 
Ephraem in the4th century taught a rapture before the Tribulation.

Ephraem of Nisibus (306-373 AD)

However first rapture is according to readiness, not a foregone conclusion for the whole church (Matt. 24.40-42, Luke 21.36, Rev. 3.10). Rev. 7.9 "before the throne" in 3rd heaven occurs before the trumpets of the 7 year Tribulation take place.

In fact when you read the earliest church fathers you can glean some rapture before the Tribulation from lots of them, but the Bible says call no man your father.

odd why hasnt the rcc taught this.and also where is the historical reference to it the in ot.

kinda odd when you like at isreal judgement and how god awful that was.

i would say a mini trib for the jew.

child kild, your town burned, you starved, and chased down by the sword

problem for the tribber #1

the saints in the trib, oddly being not guilty of anything else but hearing the gospel then must suffer while we saints whisked away to safety.

how many jews are saved then?not many compared to the gentiles.

the gentile saints that are beheaded are the only ones that that rule in the millenium, yet what does paul say?

#2 the above problem is a calvinistic one by nature as God chooses some to suffer arbritarily.

#3. where is promised or demonstrated that in the ot that the prophets were exempt from suffering the wrath of men?

isiah beheaded.

jerememiah went into captivity and was in a dugeon till the time of the final destuction of jerusalem

ezekiel, preached from captivity to the jews to repent, and told them things of what would happen

daniel and his buddies were taken captive and yet the lord provided(he didnt take them from the trial but blessed them in it)

yet what do we see in the book of revalation?

no wrath comes to those that didnt have the mark of the beast.

odd aint it.

yet the devil kills them,tries to starve them out. some die, yet where are they before the lord crying out for judgement.

the rest of us arent even in heaven till after the millenial reign.
 
and you didnt read that link as it state thats Darby A PENTACOSTAL is the father of the modern pre-trib theory.

how can he be correct if those guys arent saved?

also,

one can believe that isreal is to return without believing the rapture ala pre-trib.

post trib,mid trib do and also others.
 
Examining an Ancient Pre-Trib Rapture Statement

that proves nothing as he was the only one then,
odd since if that was the case surely the other ecfs and nicean council would accept that.

but is there more.

interesting link. but that was to a blog,so i googled him.

but that statement doesnt prove it .

i am merely arguing that the other non- tribbers have a valid case as they do read and study the bible

i havent even touched the biggest pusher of it all

SCOFIELD.

before i do i must consult mods.

there's some contraversy that will bring up, so much so the board may be disrupted.
 
revalation 7 kjv

9After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

10And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.

11And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God,

12Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen.

13And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?

14And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

odd, vs 14 seems to contradict your statement,

great tribualation.hmm
that cant be if the rapture happens before the tribulation and the church is gone as a whole.

this verse doesnt support that.

try something else.
 
odd why hasnt the rcc taught this.and also where is the historical reference to it the in ot
The Roman Church teaches amillennialism and non-OSAS. She is the great harlot of religions rome that makes drunk the nations with the wine of the wrath of her fornications.

In the first half of the Tribulation the Vatican will be nuked.

Augustine was a Calvinist so he was no less unsaved than Matt Slick.

And the gibberish babblers are unsaved.
 
revalation 7 kjv

9After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

10And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.

11And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God,

12Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen.

13And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?

14And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

odd, vs 14 seems to contradict your statement,

great tribualation.hmm
that cant be if the rapture happens before the tribulation and the church is gone as a whole.

this verse doesnt support that.

try something else.
Rev. 7.9 says "before the throne" (Rev. 7.9) which takes before the 7th seal's 7 trumpets (8.7ff) so there is a rapture before the Tribulation, but it is not for the whole Church, just those who keep the word of His patience (Rev. 3.10), are watchful (Matt. 24.40-42) and prayerful (Luke 21.36).

God gives a condition for the first rapture.

The Church remains on earth through the Tribulation as there are several verses that show the Church s on earth during the Tribulation. The general rapture and resurrection (11.15, 1 Thess. 4.15-17) takes place at the start of the last trumpet which goes for 24 months.
 
the rest of us arent even in heaven till after the millenial reign.
Those "before the throne" (Rev. 7.9) in 3rd heave is the first rapture Before the trumpets of the Tribulation, then at the start of the last trumpet is the general rapture and resurrection with those who are left and alive with those who are asleep. The 7 bowls of the 7th trumpet last 24 months then Jesus steps down.

When a person dies in the millennial kingdom it is likely they won't be raptured at the end of the 1000 years but may be raptured alive 3.5 days afte they go to death like Enoch and Elijah, the two witnessees in the Tribulation.
 
Those "before the throne" (Rev. 7.9) in 3rd heave is the first rapture Before the trumpets of the Tribulation, then at the start of the last trumpet is the general rapture and resurrection with those who are left and alive with those who are asleep. The 7 bowls of the 7th trumpet last 24 months then Jesus steps down.

When a person dies in the millennial kingdom it is likely they won't be raptured at the end of the 1000 years but may be raptured alive 3.5 days afte they go to death like Enoch and Elijah, the two witnessees in the Tribulation.

it says they that DIED in the GREAT tribulation

that means it cant be anything else

these are they that have a great testimony and endured the great tribulation.

so you arent a pre tribber now?

instead a mid tribber?

and agustine isnt a calvinist couldnt be as calvan wasnt around

thanks so you buy from a pentacostal then on the trib.

as that was what you were embracing

and where is this"proof of the vatican nuked?"

no verse even hints of rome

instead in zech 14 its possible that the the jerusalem is saved by a nuke blast.
 
it says they that DIED in the GREAT tribulation
In the original it is tribulation the great of the past 20 centuries. Remember, the Tribulation hasn't started yet in Rev. 7.

I believe in partial rapture since the first rapture is according to readiness (Matt. 24.40-42, Luke 21.36, Rev. 3.10).

I have held this view ever since I had a view on it since 2001 so 10 years now.

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