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7 Hills, one spark?

jasoncran said:
what world do you live in? really us nuke the middle east? i have been to war and we hesistated to kill unverifiable targets. if this happened then it must be under some new pro war regime. far more then even bush.


we have lights that were in the wrong area and all villagers were told not to go there at night, for if they did we would shoot first ask questions later! some company commanders hesistated!

we are paying soldiers not to shoot the enemy if it causes colleratal damage!

ah that has happened, in the past, paul did that, name one time since then the jew persecuted the christian.
was the writers wrong to say that were in the last days? the thought that christ would come in thier lifetime, but lets see if you have a case. i will look it up.
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Mk 13;9
But take heed to yourselves;for they shall deliver you up to councils;and in the synagogues ye shall be beaten; and ye shall be brought before rulers and kings for my sake,for a testimony against them.


You should study scripture more and argue less.

This verse is about the future,not the past.Read the chapter and keep this verse in context.
 
jasoncran said:
not since the early church era has that happened for the most part in the synagouge. so only the jew will persecute the christian. sir in your anti-isreal belief, please look at the other faiths that have martyrd the christian.

a short list
the hindu
the buddhist
the muslim
the zoraster.

and the rcc vs the protestant and vice versa, and the protestant against the anabaptist
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Christians

interesting theres No recordings of the jews killing the christian much after revalation. but it could happen but if you say that it gonna happen again, then explain the much larger scales from the muslims

or should i post the fact that there are more JEWS that go to the synagouge in the u.s. then in isreal!
silly me what would i know of my blood and faith.
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Your love for the beast blinds your eyes.
 
but the apostle did in past tense go through that, uh ever heard of PAUL, formerly saul and the deaths of james and stephen by the sanhedrin.

by your thinking that the reformation of the jews in isreal is for the purpose of the anti-christ?
though they accpet him and repent when he becomes the the abomonation of desolation.
i see that, as the lord in the last book of the bible rescues them from the anti-christ.

the jews after the destruction of the holy city spent more time fighting the romans and were suppresed and driven all over the lands.

by your thinking the u.s having more jews that believe in the diaspora , the u,s. should be the anti-christ as they are more jews in the u.s. then isreal.

new flash not all isreali are jews most are ARABS!

the fall of jeruselam was predicted and the matthew, but that was only fulfilled in part as the new temple must be built, and that is in the works.
 
no my friend since you went there.

jews in the u.s. vs the isreali nation.

take note there's a contraversy on the amounts and who practices the faith.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jews

but the u.s leads in several that i looked at. more then isreal.

i have told you before i read my bible but i see it a tad bit different as i think the u,n. will be used as the beast, not isreal. the anti-christ assist the jew in his quest to build his temple and then he turns on them and the jew repents and cries to the lord seing that the bible was correct!

i do criticize isreali but not in the manner you say, you call the u.s holy and righteous, really? we have killed more of the unborn then the entire holocaust! we are endanger of judgment! america needs to repent!
 
NEWSFLASH
JEWS WHO SAY THE MESSIAH HASNT COME ARE THE ANTICHRIST.

You keep talking about the antichrist as though you dont know what an antichrist is.

JEWS WHO SAY THE MESSIAH HAS NOT COME ARE THE ANTICHRIST.
Will they recognize thierselves when they see the mark of the beast in thier right hand>
No because they dont believe Jesus nor do they believe the book of revelation.
They dont know what the abomination of desolation is because they reject the son of God.

They are antichrist.Can they recognize themselves?NO
 
so are the hindus,and all those that have that spirit that deny the christ. thus negating your whole arguement.


jews are only 13 million out of 6 billion populous. so how likely is that only the jew that doenst believe persecutes(only) the christian now and in the tribulation.

hmmm
and the jews are slowly reducing in the size of their population, and converts.

so unless there's a miracolous conversion to judaism by gentiles, that believe of yours isnt likely.

i think that all those that dont accept jesus will attack christians as we have seen, and are seeing. the jew will amongst them but not in majority.
 
1 John 4;3
And every spirit that confeseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God;and this is that spirit of antichrist,whereof ye have heard that it should come,and even not already is it in the world.
I have a 8 month old grandson that doesnt confess Christ has come in the flesh.Is he antichrist?No ,because he has never even heard of Christ ,much less can the child even speek.

But there is a country full of people who have indeed been taught of Christ and they preach that Christ has not come in the flesh.All of them have the same religion and its called Judaism.

Ive never heard a hindu preach that Christ has not come in the flesh.
Ive never heard a hindu deny Christ before men.Have you?
 
yeah they have killed christians.

listen to this guy.

winasia.org

one cany deny the lord by mouth, action. or both.

if i say that the lord is real yet never go to church, produce fruits, cuss, have illiicit sex. what am i doing

lying and by my actions denying the power of the lord, as i said no to him.

i'm sure that you would agree that actions speak louder then words

so killing the christian missionaries by an axe not an action by the of someone with a spirit of the anti-christ?

note that the Anti-christ will come in person, and there are many anti-christs.(small ones) hitler, stalin and so on.
 
jasoncran said:
yeah they have killed christians.

listen to this guy.

winasia.org

one cany deny the lord by mouth, action. or both.

if i say that the lord is real yet never go to church, produce fruits, cuss, have illiicit sex. what am i doing

lying and by my actions denying the power of the lord, as i said no to him.

i'm sure that you would agree that actions speak louder then words

so killing the christian missionaries by an axe not an action by the of someone with a spirit of the anti-christ?

note that the Anti-christ will come in person, and there are many anti-christs.(small ones) hitler, stalin and so on.
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Did Hitler say that Christ had not come in the flesh?
 
please, if you dont accept that he is the truth and the lord and act upon it you are denying him,

i can confess all day long that the lord came in the flesh, yet if dont live by it(believe, oe bylive) i am denying him. and calling him not real.

the jews believe that jesus came in the flesh but deny the ressurection and his claim of a deity, as do the the muslim.
 
jasoncran said:
the jews believe that jesus came in the flesh but deny the ressurection and his claim of a deity, as do the the muslim.
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1 John 4;3
And every spirit that confeseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God;and this is that spirit of antichrist,whereof ye have heard that it should come,and even not already is it in the world.


Your saying the jews say that Christ has come?
Last I heard,those of Judaism say the Messiah has not come in the flesh.
Someone is not telling the truth here.
 
yes, i am hebrew, they claim that he was a prophet. i asked my grandma and others practing hebrews on this.

they deny his ressurection.
 
jasoncran said:
yes, i am hebrew, they claim that he was a prophet. i asked my grandma and others practing hebrews on this.

they deny his ressurection.
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Your saying that those who practice Judaism claim that Jesus is the Christ ?
 
you stated that he came, not that they believe that he was the messiah, the hindu believes that he came but not as the messiah, along with the muslim.
in your bias you forget that the muslim beleive that he wasn the messiah. yet you dont call them the anti-christ. the same with the mormon, well they beleive he was the messian but they add his diety by saying he was a man first that evolved in to God himself and that satan is his brother

http://judaism.about.com/od/beliefs/a/jesus.htm

you my friend only are picking the jew only, i am not, for i am including all that dont believe in christ will have that nature.
 
1 John 4;3
And every spirit that confeseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God;and this is that spirit of antichrist,whereof ye have heard that it should come,and even not already is it in the world.

Im stating that the Christ has come.
Do those of Judaism claim the Christ has come or do they say he hasnt come?
 
no, and neither does the muslim! yet you only include the jew when they (muslims)obviously persecute christians and kill them. ie darfur, iran, iraq,egypt, saudi arabia

my position is this that jews and all those that deny the christ has come has the spirit of the anti-christ, your postion is this only the jew that denies the christ has that spirit.

may i ask where you attend chruch so that i can listen to the teachings.odd that you are taught that only the jew alone has the anti-christ spirit.
 
jasoncran said:
no, and neither does the muslim!
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That is a lie.
Mohammed states in the quran that Jesus is indeed the jewish Messiah.Ive read it with my own eyes.


Your love for the beast blinds you to the truth.
 
they deny that he died on the cross! and that he was and is the same as the lord.

uh they dont worship jesus do they. if he isnt worshipped as god then what is he.

the means to be muslim

there's no god but allah, and mohammed is his prophet. odd since that makes a claim opposite to what we say.

we say there is a god in heaven that sent his only begotten son to die for you on the cross.
 
jasoncran said:
they deny that he died on the cross! and that he was and is the same as the lord.

uh they dont worship jesus do they. if he isnt worshipped as god then what is he.

the means to be muslim

there's no god but allah, and mohammed is his prophet. odd since that makes a claim opposite to what we say.

we say there is a god in heaven that sent his only begotten son to die for you on the cross.
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1 John 4;3
And every spirit that confeseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God;and this is that spirit of antichrist,whereof ye have heard that it should come,and even not already is it in the world.

I dont care what you say.I recieve no knowledge from what you say or what they say.
My knowledge of what an antichrist is comes from what John said.

Judaism claims that Christ has not come.
Islam claims Christ has come.

Your love for the beast blinds you from the truth.
 
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