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[JudaicChristian]

you are unaware that certain men have sneaked in, who are of a ancient order to their condemnation

 

[jasoncran]

that's right oh yeah the Lord is so small, he cant even keep his word. i was unaware of that.

 

[JudaicChristian]

I have a question for everyone. Am I the only person here who has a collection of different bibles? And am I the only person here who has or uses different Exhaustive Concordances? Does even anyone here have a bible dictionary? If you are going to teach what is in the word of God, don't you think it would be good to have those things?

 

[jasoncran]

I have a question for everyone. Am I the only person here who has a collection of different bibles? And am I the only person here who has or uses different Exhaustive Concordances? Does even anyone here have a bible dictionary? If you are going to teach what is in the word of God, don't you think it would be good to have those things?

those are good tools,but i have found that the Lord is most able to keep his word. the apostle didnt have those things.

 

[JudaicChristian]

As Christians it is your responsibility to know that you have been taught the truth. If the preacher is a member of a secret society, or even he is just simply mistaken; then those errors will be passed on. Do not trust that you have been taught the truth, know that you have been taught the truth. Knowing the truth is your responsibility, not someone else's. :yes

 

[jasoncran]

heres the problem , you always say that the bible is incomplete. no man told me that word is the way it is,or rather convinced, do you know how i can to this conclusion?
hmm
i was taught that by the lord himself, when i got saved i read my bible in less then a year, and not only once but twice!

i used to think the bible was missing books. we see only in part and understand in part.

 

[JudaicChristian]

I have a question for everyone. Am I the only person here who has a collection of different bibles? And am I the only person here who has or uses different Exhaustive Concordances? Does even anyone here have a bible dictionary? If you are going to teach what is in the word of God, don't you think it would be good to have those things?

those are good tools,but i have found that the Lord is most able to keep his word. the apostle didnt have those things.

Yes, but the disciples had Yahshua who is an ancient being and who had knowledge from the Father. :amen

 

[jasoncran]

I have a question for everyone. Am I the only person here who has a collection of different bibles? And am I the only person here who has or uses different Exhaustive Concordances? Does even anyone here have a bible dictionary? If you are going to teach what is in the word of God, don't you think it would be good to have those things?

those are good tools,but i have found that the Lord is most able to keep his word. the apostle didnt have those things.

Yes, but the disciples had Yahshua who is an ancient being and who had knowledge from the Father. :amen

paul didnt. men taught him who were discipled by the original, paul was with peter for a while.

 

[JudaicChristian]

heres the problem , you always say that the bible is incomplete. no man told me that word is the way it is,or rather convinced, do you know how i can to this conclusion?
hmm
i was taught that by the lord himself, when i got saved i read my bible in less then a year, and not only once but twice!

i used to think the bible was missing books. we see only in part and understand in part.

I have lost count of how many times I have read the bible through. Here is a question for everyone: Do you trust the Catholic Church in the canonization of our scriptures?

 

[jasoncran]

that rcc church wasnt like it is now. how do you know your right? hmm what tells you that you have the truth?

 

[freeway]

heres the problem , you always say that the bible is incomplete. no man told me that word is the way it is,or rather convinced, do you know how i can to this conclusion?
hmm
i was taught that by the lord himself, when i got saved i read my bible in less then a year, and not only once but twice!

i used to think the bible was missing books. we see only in part and understand in part.

I have lost count of how many times I have read the bible through. Here is a question for everyone: Do you trust the Catholic Church in the canonization of our scriptures?

first question mdo757, you say you where taught by the Lord himself? please explain, how is it different than any other Christian that reads his bible, prays for wisdom, .. you seem to think you have a corner on Jesus, the bible, and wisdom that he gives us..?

second: I would not say the trust is in the RCC but in God and His wisdom as to what he wants in his word for mankind, after all if we start to question why this book is in and that book was left out. Well that is very dangerous, because what can you really base your faith on.... the "book of Judas"?

Third: you say no angels??? but they where mere messengers... but where they still not spirit being? I don't see the problem here...

 

[JudaicChristian]

that rcc church wasnt like it is now. how do you know your right? hmm what tells you that you have the truth?

The truth is made known by reason of the facts. I do not trust my feelings because they can be misleading.

 

[JudaicChristian]

first question mdo757, you say you where taught by the Lord himself? please explain, how is it different than any other Christian that reads his bible, prays for wisdom, .. you seem to think you have a corner on Jesus, the bible, and wisdom that he gives us..?

second: I would not say the trust is in the RCC but in God and His wisdom as to what he wants in his word for mankind, after all if we start to question why this book is in and that book was left out. Well that is very dangerous, because what can you really base your faith on.... the "book of Judas"?

Third: you say no angels??? but they where mere messengers... but where they still not spirit being? I don't see the problem here...

God said: "Come now, let us reason together." That means that thinking is required. I know as much as I do because I have spent many thousands of hours studying. Only in dreams, parables, and visions are [angels/messengers] seen with wings. Any other time the [angels/messengers] appear as men. I do not question God's word, I question men. It would be foolish of me not to. Trust God, but do not trust men. Men who have their own agenda have translated our scriptures. They also have decided what should be in our bibles. The Catholic Church also has secret societies within her.

 

[jasoncran]

who's to say that your reasoning is any better?come on now you accept the apochrya something even the apostle never referenced.

 

[JudaicChristian]

who's to say that your reasoning is any better?come on now you accept the apochrya something even the apostle never referenced.

How many times do I have to tell you that I do not approve of Gnosticism. But let's talk about the Dead Sea Scrolls. They contain bible scriptures and commentary. They also have some history. Do you think you could not learn anything from them. And then there is the book of Enoch. There are a number of Gnostic books of Enoch, but apart from that there is the original book of Enoch. Here is what our scripture says:
Hebrews 11:5- NIV
By faith Enoch was taken from this life, so that he did not experience death; he could not be found, because God had taken him away. For before he was taken, he was commended as one who pleased God.

Hebrews 11:5-KJV
By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.

Jude 1:14
Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about these men: "See, the Lord is coming with thousands upon thousands of his holy ones...

The book of Enoch was highly prised among the first Christians, but the Catholic Church decided that Christians should not have that book, because it contradicted their teachings. And then there is the book of Ezra, it is not an inspired book, but it does have some history in it. I do not think that it is wise for people to be so trusting of men in secret societies.

 

[veteran]

You desperately need to get yourself a Exhaustive Concordance, Strong's or NIV. The word "hell" is not in the Old Testament at all. The word "Sheol" in Hebrew means "grave." Gnostic believe in Angels, Hell, demons, trinitarianism, dualism, and other such things. The people who have done the translations are members of secret societies. Name me just one bible that has not been translated by scholars who belong to some society. There is not one.

The disbelief in a LITERAL place called 'hell' IS a tradition of the Gnostics, especially the Gnostics today who are the REAL progenitors of the occult secret society working. They belief there is no hell, just like Satanist do.

And I have many, many Bible concordances, thank you! So you'll know, I won't waste time with you on that, because you seem to not be able to conceptualize the abode of hell per Luke 16 even. Why don't you try your own advice and look up that KJV word "hell" in Luke 16, and still try to tell us that's just a burial grave how it's used there.

AND, "me thinkest thou doth protest too much" about the Catholic Church.

The OCCULTISTS hate, really hate the Catholic Church, because the Catholic Church drove so many of them out long ago in many countries. NEWS! So did the PROTESTANT CHURCH!

The Gnostics hate Christ, and don't believe He died on the cross, but lived to old age. They treat Christ Jesus only as a man and not as The Son of God, because they want to become gods in His place. The Gnostic wild-dreamers have their heads up their (xxx) looking for God in all the wrong places.

 

[JudaicChristian]

heres the problem , you always say that the bible is incomplete. no man told me that word is the way it is,or rather convinced, do you know how i can to this conclusion?
hmm
i was taught that by the lord himself, when i got saved i read my bible in less then a year, and not only once but twice!

first question mdo757, you say you where taught by the Lord himself? please explain, how is it different than any other Christian that reads his bible, prays for wisdom, .. you seem to think you have a corner on Jesus, the bible, and wisdom that he gives us..?

It was Jason who said he was taught by the lord. However, I have had some divine experiences. But I would like to keep those things to myself.

 

[JudaicChristian]

You desperately need to get yourself a Exhaustive Concordance, Strong's or NIV. The word "hell" is not in the Old Testament at all. The word "Sheol" in Hebrew means "grave." Gnostic believe in Angels, Hell, demons, trinitarianism, dualism, and other such things. The people who have done the translations are members of secret societies. Name me just one bible that has not been translated by scholars who belong to some society. There is not one.

The disbelief in a LITERAL place called 'hell' IS a tradition of the Gnostics, especially the Gnostics today who are the REAL progenitors of the occult secret society working. They belief there is no hell, just like Satanist do.

And I have many, many Bible concordances, thank you! So you'll know, I won't waste time with you on that, because you seem to not be able to conceptualize the abode of hell per Luke 16 even. Why don't you try your own advice and look up that KJV word "hell" in Luke 16, and still try to tell us that's just a burial grave how it's used there.

AND, "me thinkest thou doth protest too much" about the Catholic Church.

The OCCULTISTS hate, really hate the Catholic Church, because the Catholic Church drove so many of them out long ago in many countries. NEWS! So did the PROTESTANT CHURCH!

The Gnostics hate Christ, and don't believe He died on the cross, but lived to old age. They treat Christ Jesus only as a man and not as The Son of God, because they want to become gods in His place. The Gnostic wild-dreamers have their heads up their (xxx) looking for God in all the wrong places.

Me thinks you see only what you want to see.
The number of times "Hell" appears in the English Bible
Translations



Bible Translations
Old Testament
New Testament
Total
"Authorized" King James Version
31
23
54
New King James Version
19
13
32
American Standard Version
0
13
13
New American Standard Bible
0
13
13
Revised Standard Version
0
12
12
New Revised Standard Version
0
12
12
Revised English Bible
0
13
13
New Living Translation
0
13
13
Amplified
0
13
13
New International Version (best-selling English Bible)
0
14
14
Darby
0
12
12
New Century Version
0
12
12
Wesley's New Testament (1755)

0
0
Scarlett's N.T. (1798)

0
0
The New Testament in Greek and English (Kneeland, 1823)

0
0
Young's Literal Translation (1891)
0
0
0
Twentieth Century New Testament (1900)

0
0
Rotherham's Emphasized Bible (reprinted, 1902)
0
0
0
Fenton's Holy Bible in Modern English (1903)
0
0
0
Weymouth's New Testament in Modern Speech (1903)

0
0
Jewish Publication Society Bible Old Testament (1917)
0

0
Panin's Numeric English New Testament (1914)

0
0
The People's New Covenant (Overbury, 1925)

0
0
Hanson's New Covenant (1884)

0
0
Western N.T. (1926)

0
0
NT of our Lord and Savior Anointed (Tomanek, 1958)

0
0
Concordant Literal NT (1983)

0
0
The N.T., A Translation (Clementson, 1938)

0
0
Emphatic Diaglott, Greek/English Interlinear (Wilson, 1942)

0
0
New American Bible (1970)
0
0
0
Restoration of Original Sacred Name Bible (1976)
0
0
0
Tanakh, The Holy Scriptures, Old Testament (1985)
0

0
The New Testament, A New Translation (Greber, 1980)

0
0
Christian Bible (1991)
0
0
0
World English Bible (in progress)
0
0
0
Original Bible Project (Dr. James Tabor, still in translation)

0
0
0
Zondervan Parallel N.T. in Greek and English (1975)**

0
0
Int. NASB-NIV Parallel N.T. in Greek and English (1993)**

0
0




You see the word hell is not in the Greek, Hebrew or Aramaic
as the so called bias translators have tried to establish it
as scripture; but they were not good enough to cover up the
reality of what God is saying. The source of this word hell is
a bit hard to follow in that the concept of eternal torture is
not Christian, but pagan. You can find it in Babylon, in
Greece and especially Rome.

 

[jasoncran]

you only proved that enoch was righteous not the book.

if enoch was so close to the creation of men, why not have him tell the story of creation, and not moses?

enoch was nearly there, the best to have!

what you have done is basically this, if my name is jesus and i live holy and pure and all that, and die, but i write a book on how live for the lord, its gospel.

 

[JudaicChristian]

you only proved that enoch was righteous not the book.

if enoch was so close to the creation of men, why not have him tell the story of creation, and not moses?

enoch was nearly there, the best to have!

what you have done is basically this, if my name is jesus and i live holy and pure and all that, and die, but i write a book on how live for the lord, its gospel.

What is there to say? A parable is a parable, no matter who speaks it. It does not bother me if you do not accept it as inspired.