"After the counsel of His own Will" !

[Who Says]

IMHO, truly it is an unnecessary mincing of words and ideas. It brings confusion needlessly.

This thread brings to mind 1 Timothy 6:4-5 NKJV
4 he is proud, knowing nothing, but is obsessed with disputes and arguments over words, from which come envy, strife, reviling, evil suspicions, 5 useless wranglings of men of corrupt minds and destitute of the truth, who suppose that godliness is a means of gain. From such withdraw yourself.

We are talking about the necessary correction of a problem due to its causing a wrong and harmful impression among the world rather than inspiring faith in them toward God.

Is it then what you say or is it convenient for your pride to label godly correction as strife so that you can justify yourself not to listen to it?

 

[Who Says]

Some are Kind of soft on this thread also, huh? Do we have the flexability to 'think' for ourself & make 'decisions' on this or not? 'Me' THINKS SO! (and yes God Eternally has pre/know what all of these decisions would be!:yes)

Job says God hung the earth on nothing. How long did that take?

David said that God SPAKE AND IT WAS DONE! (or stood fast) And how long did that take?

Think (?) that Adam was formed of God, and that he was perfect in Their image. And not alive yet. (very good) Lets just say he was a giant in today's sight? Maybe 16' tall, & #1000 in weight, & would soon be how old when God Breathed the Breath of Life into his nostrils???

Perfectly Full grown & one day old, and with [NO MATURITY!] is as 'i' see it! Yet, how old would these Jer. 17:5 men document his age to be? (Was he a predestined 'canned brainless' robot as they?)

OK: God spoke the Earth into existence! Man brings a rock or some debris from outer space that God spake into existance, to look at? How old was it when God spake it into existence? And you are telling us that these ones know more that God does, huh? Not much different than Gen. 3:4 of satan calling God a liar with many believers of his (satan's) teaching.

--Elijah

PS: See Psalms 33:6-9 + Job 26:7! You might even understand God some in Psalms 139:15-16??
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Proverbs 15:10 "Correction is grievous unto him that forsaketh the way: and he that hateth reproof shall die."

 

[montanaviking]

Well, I did say the the world walks in the constant state of "No" to God. They only have one option and that is to say "yes" to Christ. Simply by existing they are saying no.

The real hard core of the world don't think it's fair anyway. God says its my way or the highway. They don't like that. They want to be able to choose what they want and then not have any consequences for the choice. I remember talking to one person who said God does not give anyone a choice really because if we are bound for hell then the only choice is Jesus and that is not a choice at all! I agreed with him. I said that unbelievers are walking in rejection to Christ simply by living. It's like walking down a path. You are walking and suddenly there is another path and a sign that says stay on this path and you will die, walk on this other path and you will live. Now they have a choice. Stay on the path they are already walking on or get off and take another one. They don't like the choice. They would rather stay on the path they are on and live. But that is not an option.

You are right "who says" when you say life is a privilege given to us by God. All life exists because he allows it to. Like I said, all mankind has a choice to make, however they cannot choose the consequences for that choice. God reserved the right to decide the consequences for our choice.

 

[Alabaster]

We are talking about the necessary correction of a problem due to its causing a wrong and harmful impression among the world rather than inspiring faith in them toward God.

It is only your opinion that states the world is getting the wrong impression. Faith in Jesus Christ can come by a move of the Holy Spirit. You are borrowing trouble by this minor concern---making a mountain out of a molehill.

Is it then what you say or is it convenient for your pride to label godly correction as strife so that you can justify yourself not to listen to it?

I listen to God. What I see you and others doing is an attempt to inject a tiny point that brings strife.

 

[Who Says]

It is only your opinion that states the world is getting the wrong impression. Faith in Jesus Christ can come by a move of the Holy Spirit. You are borrowing trouble by this minor concern---making a mountain out of a molehill.



I listen to God. What I see you and others doing is an attempt to inject a tiny point that brings strife.

So be it Alabaster, your opinion may have its way.

Peace be with you.

 

[Eventide]

So be it Alabaster, your opinion may have its way.

Peace be with you.

At least she's not delusional in thinking that she has the absolute truth and is beyond reproof in these matters, like you do.

 

[savedbygrace57]

God does not work all things after the counsel of mans freewill, but after the Counsel of His own will..Mans will is under submission to God's own will..

 

[Who Says]

At least she's not delusional in thinking that she has the absolute truth and is beyond reproof in these matters, like you do.

The type of Christianity you practice that permits you to say such things renders you unworthy of being lietened to, for that is surely not Christ-like.

You can't win through reasoning so you resort to the attacks of the devil.

You should be ashamed if you have the capacity yet to be.

 

[Eventide]

The type of Christianity you practice that permits you to say such things renders you unworthy of being lietened to, for that is surely not Christ-like.

You can't win through reasoning so you resort to the attacks of the devil.

You should be ashamed if you have the capacity yet to be.

I would be ashamed to be here in a forum where I told others that I was ordained by God told others that it would behoove them to listen to what I have to say.. and that God parted the rain for me and if I believed that what I said was absolute truth and told others that it could not be understood.. add whatever additional naesea you'd like..

And I'm CERTAIN that you can't even begin to understand that.

 

[Eventide]

So what does make men exalt themselves to the point of thinking and being delusional in that they're beyond reproof..

Religious pride.. it's as old as the Pharisees who thought that they could see and yet were more blind than the blind in their midst.

 

[Who Says]

I would be ashamed to be here in a forum where I told others that I was ordained by God told others that it would behoove them to listen to what I have to say.. and that God parted the rain for me and if I believed that what I said was absolute truth and told others that it could not be understood.. add whatever additional naesea you'd like..

And I'm CERTAIN that you can't even begin to understand that.

You are a rascal.

The red faced child kicking and screaming because he gets not his way.

Just relax and converse. Cease the calling others delusional on a personal attack basis as you are doing these last couple of posts and just reason together.

Get the emothion out of it and pursue peace with all men while standing strong for truth.

 

[Eventide]

You are a rascal.

The red faced child kicking and screaming because he gets not his way.

Well, at least you don't deny that you're beyond reproof.. that says more than you can ever say Who Says.. even if it can't be understood by us who don't have the rains parted for them like God does for you.. lol..

 

[Eventide]

Just relax and converse. Cease the calling others delusional on a personal attack basis as you are doing these last couple of posts and just reason together.

I am relaxed.. although it will do no good to converse with a person like yourself who believes that they're beyond reproof and that it can't be understood.. or that some people are afraid of losing members of their congregation.. and whatever other nonsense you mentioned to me..

You come across as if none of this matters.. and the sad thing is that you actually believe it about yourself.

 

[Who Says]

Well, at least you don't deny that you're beyond reproof.. that says more than you can ever say Who Says.. even if it can't be understood by us who don't have the rains parted for them like God does for you.. lol..

Maybe you have had but were not paying attention.

 

[Eventide]

Maybe you have had but were not paying attention.

No need to think that I have, or that I'm special or anything like that.. but hey, if it exalts yourself then good for you.

 

[Who Says]

No need to think that I have, or that I'm special or anything like that.. but hey, if it exalts yourself then good for you.

I do not believe that is special treatment. I just happened to be in a position to notice it with absolutely no distractions at the time. But I believe he works miracles for you all of the time if you were just able to see them.

For example: I was about 17 when I laid down a motorcycle at 70-80 miles an hour. All I remember about it is that time seemed to turn suddenly so slow moving that during that second I was given to take the actions I needed to take to live through it, it seemed as though there was much mor time than there really was.

During what one knows was a split second I had time to pick out a space between moving cross traffic and deliberately choose to aim full throtle for that space. Then as I passed through that space without so much as scraping a bumper It seemed as yet I had plenty of time to observe the bike tail sliding side-ways out from under me and crawl onto its side as it went down.

The motorcylcle slid a couple of hundred feet with me safe on its side and it did not dig in and flip. I came through with not even a single scratch or injury.

Now, the faithless would just dismiss that as happen-stance. I prefer to see it as I believe it really was, God's merciful miracle toward a fool that would not have survived to serve him any other way.

I believe most of us just fail to see all of the good things God does for us, often even dismissing what he does in our disbelief.

 

[Eventide]

I do not believe that is special treatment..

Now that's funny.. and as I noticed before.. you are a funny guy.

Enjoy your delusion..

 

[Who Says]

Now that's funny.. and as I noticed before.. you are a funny guy.

Enjoy your delusion..

Why thank you sir, I surely will !!!

 

[Eventide]

S P E C I A L . . .

Let's see.. why woud a person post in a public forum that God parted the rains for him... or that it would behoove others to listen to what he has to say... or that he can't be wrong about certain things..

LOL..

 

[Who Says]

Re: S P E C I A L . . .

Let's see.. why woud a person post in a public forum that God parted the rains for him... or that it would behoove others to listen to what he has to say... or that he can't be wrong about certain things..

LOL..

Perhaps because you were calling me a liar when I said I was taught of the spirit, even as you now keep wrangling trying to prove me a liar.

You are being naughty.