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An Inside Look at The End Time

Strangelove said:
Ok I think after 6 months I finally understand your position. Every single thing in the Bible is spiritual to you. Even the stuff that cant possibly be taken metaphorically or spiritually.

Good grief. Did Jesus even walk on Earth physically for goodness sakes? Was he even actually born? Like....REALLY born?
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I do not discount or DIMINISH ANY PHYSICAL DEPICTION in the text. So your understanding is VOID.

I also assuredly DO NOT see ANY matter as APART from THE LIVING SPIRIT OF GOD or the resistance of anti-spiritual DEVILS.

ALL unbelivers are DEAD IN SIN which SIN is OF THE DEVIL and the DEVIL blinds the MINDS of them which DO NOT BELIEVE.

Now, go find A PHYSICAL DEVIL. You will hunt the PHYSICAL EARTH in total VANITY before that EVER happens.


Continue to CHASE YOUR TAIL. I expect you will BITE IT OFF soon enough.

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smaller said:
I do not discount or DIMINISH ANY PHYSICAL DEPICTION in the text.
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Yeah but do you BELIEVE in any physical depiction in the text?

Any at all?

How 'bout Jesus' birth, life, death and ressurection?

Real or spiritual?
 
Strangelove said:
Yeah but do you BELIEVE in any physical depiction in the text?

Any at all?

How 'bout Jesus' birth, life, death and ressurection?

Real or spiritual?
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Do you even bother to read?!

What did I just say about that exact matter?

"I do not discount or DIMINISH ANY PHYSICAL DEPICTION in the text."

Does this mean THAT WAS ALL that was going on or will go on?

Assuredly NOT.

Using your physical methods, you may end up thinking that Jesus communicated with God by using a telephone.

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smaller said:
Do you even bother to read?!

What did I just say about that exact matter?

"I do not discount or DIMINISH ANY PHYSICAL DEPICTION in the text."
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Yeah but you still wont tell me what things you consider to be physical depictions. Can't you just answer the questions?

smaller said:
Does this mean THAT WAS ALL that was going on or will go on?

Assuredly NOT.

Using your physical methods, you may end up thinking that Jesus communicated with God by using a telephone.
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Ring...ring...........ring....ring.........ring......ring....

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God: Hello?

Jesus: 'Sup Big Daddy!

God: Hey Son....Whats cookin'?

Jesus: Yeah I was just wondering if I actually existed or not? I mean....physically?

God: Did you ask Smaller?

Jesus: Um.......yeah.....?....?....?

God: What did he say?

Jesus: He's being really cryptic again....I think I caught him on another one of his off days.

God: You are real Son. The real deal. You lived a perfect sinless life. Physical and Glorious. Don't let anyone tell you any different. After your physical body died I put you into the hearts of all those with faith so they may be saved. That was the plan all along.

Jesus: Thanks Dad. Thats what I wanted to hear. I'm off to bed.

God: G'night boy.

G'night Smaller. See ya tomorrow bud.

God Bless. ;)
 
Strangelove said:
Yeah but you still wont tell me what things you consider to be physical depictions. Can't you just answer the questions?
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Don't really know what you're trying to get at strange?

DO I believe that there was a real Adam, a real flood, a real Jesus etc etc.

Of course. If I wrote that what? 3, 4, 5 times more would you 'get it?' Perhaps NOT.

(revised to more than likely not)

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Adstar said:
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You cannot have the little horn being Israel and the harlot as being Israel. You cannot have the other horns destroying the little horn because no-where in Daniel or in Revelation do the horns gang up and destroy the little horn.


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Oh really?
It is written they shall destroy his dominion.
If im not mistaken his dominion would be his kingdom.Jerusalem being his capital city.

Daniel 7;26
But the judgement shall sit,and they shall take away his dominion,to consume and destroy it unto the end.

After it is destroyed ,it is given to those to who it was promised.Thats why it is called the promised land.

Daniel 7;27
Abnd the kingdom and dominion,and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven,shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High,whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom,and all dominions shall serve and obey him.

So what is it that you are trying to say.That the saints will not inherrit the promised land or that the pleasant land is not the dominion of the little horn?Or are you saying his dominion will not be destroyed?We just coverd all of that in two verses.
 
Shilohsfoal said:
Oh really?
It is written they shall destroy his dominion.
If im not mistaken his dominion would be his kingdom.Jerusalem being his capital city.

Daniel 7;26
But the judgement shall sit,and they shall take away his dominion,to consume and destroy it unto the end.

After it is destroyed ,it is given to those to who it was promised.Thats why it is called the promised land.

Daniel 7;27
Abnd the kingdom and dominion,and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven,shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High,whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom,and all dominions shall serve and obey him.

So what is it that you are trying to say.That the saints will not inherrit the promised land or that the pleasant land is not the dominion of the little horn?Or are you saying his dominion will not be destroyed?We just coverd all of that in two verses.
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What ? The one taking the beasts dominion away is the returning Messiah Jesus not the Beast. you are so confused.

Danile 7
24 The ten horns are ten kings
Who shall arise from this kingdom.
And another shall rise after them;
He shall be different from the first ones,
And shall subdue three kings.
25 He shall speak pompous words against the Most High,
Shall persecute the saints of the Most High,
And shall intend to change times and law.
Then the saints shall be given into his hand
For a time and times and half a time.
26 ‘ But the court shall be seated,
And they shall take away his dominion,
To consume and destroy it forever.

(The court is the court of heaven And the returning Messiah will capture the beast and his false prophet and cast them into the lake of fire)

27 Then the kingdom and dominion,
And the greatness of the kingdoms under the whole heaven,
Shall be given to the people, the saints of the Most High.
His kingdom is an everlasting kingdom,
And all dominions shall serve and obey Him.’

(this is the kingdom of the Messiah on earth after the battle of amaggedon)



All Praise The Ancient Of Days
 
Adstar said:
What ? The one taking the beasts dominion away is the returning Messiah Jesus not the Beast. you are so confused.

Danile 7
24 The ten horns are ten kings
Who shall arise from this kingdom.
And another shall rise after them;
He shall be different from the first ones,
And shall subdue three kings.
25 He shall speak pompous words against the Most High,
Shall persecute the saints of the Most High,
And shall intend to change times and law.
Then the saints shall be given into his hand
For a time and times and half a time.
26 ‘ But the court shall be seated,
And they shall take away his dominion,
To consume and destroy it forever.

(The court is the court of heaven And the returning Messiah will capture the beast and his false prophet and cast them into the lake of fire)

27 Then the kingdom and dominion,
And the greatness of the kingdoms under the whole heaven,
Shall be given to the people, the saints of the Most High.
His kingdom is an everlasting kingdom,
And all dominions shall serve and obey Him.’

(this is the kingdom of the Messiah on earth after the battle of amaggedon)



All Praise The Ancient Of Days
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It says his dominion is destroyed.Do you comprehend?
It is written that the little horn would go to the pleasant land and in the end his dominion would be destroyed.Do you yet understand that his dominion is the pleasant land?Thats Jerusalem .Thats the whore that sits upon the beast.Its not Rome that in the pleasant land because Rome is 1000 miles away.It is Jerusalem that is destroyed.His dominion is Jerusalem.It is Jerusalem that is given to the saints of the most high.In fact you can look in the book of Revelation and see where the camp of the saints is.Its Jerusalem ,Not Rome.I rest my case.


Next.
 
And adstar.The Lord has said who will destroy Babylon(Jerusalem).It is the Medes.Do you know who that is?

"Sharpen the arrows, take up the shields! The LORD has stirred up the kings of the Medes, because his purpose is to destroy Babylon. The LORD will take vengeance, vengeance for his temple.

The kings of the east set out for Babylon -Revelation 16;12
Babylon is destroyed-Revelation 16;19
 
Shilohsfoal said:
And adstar.The Lord has said who will destroy Babylon(Jerusalem).It is the Medes.Do you know who that is?

"Sharpen the arrows, take up the shields! The LORD has stirred up the kings of the Medes, because his purpose is to destroy Babylon. The LORD will take vengeance, vengeance for his temple.

The kings of the east set out for Babylon -Revelation 16;12
Babylon is destroyed-Revelation 16;19
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Once again we come back to the Book of Revelations where the Beast destroys the harlot. And the little horn is part of that beast. He is the leader of that beast. Your scriptures of Daniel 7 tell of the destruction of that beast by God not the destruction of the harlot.

Harlot <---- Destroyed by the Beast <---- Destroyed by the coming of the Messiah Jesus.


All Praise The Ancient Of Days
 
Your referance to the verse in Jeremiah 51 is not about the end times destruction of spiritual babylon but the OT destruction of the historical Babylon. The verse starts out giving a location Leb Kamai, this is in the actual land of babylon. Not in Israel.


Jeremiah 51
1 Thus says the LORD:


“ Behold, I will raise up against Babylon,
Against those who dwell in Leb Kamai,[a]
A destroying wind.
2 And I will send winnowers to Babylon,
Who shall winnow her and empty her land.
For in the day of doom
They shall be against her all around.
3 Against her let the archer bend his bow,
And lift himself up against her in his armor.
Do not spare her young men;
Utterly destroy all her army.
4 Thus the slain shall fall in the land of the Chaldeans,
And those thrust through in her streets.
5 For Israel is not forsaken, nor Judah,
By his God, the LORD of hosts,
Though their land was filled with sin against the Holy One of Israel.â€
6 Flee from the midst of Babylon,
And every one save his life!
Do not be cut off in her iniquity,
For this is the time of the LORD’s vengeance;
He shall recompense her.
7 Babylon was a golden cup in the LORD’s hand,
That made all the earth drunk.
The nations drank her wine;
Therefore the nations are deranged.
8 Babylon has suddenly fallen and been destroyed.
Wail for her!
Take balm for her pain;
Perhaps she may be healed.
9 We would have healed Babylon,
But she is not healed.
Forsake her, and let us go everyone to his own country;
For her judgment reaches to heaven and is lifted up to the skies.
10 The LORD has revealed our righteousness.
Come and let us declare in Zion the work of the LORD our God.
11 Make the arrows bright!
Gather the shields!
The LORD has raised up the spirit of the kings of the Medes.
For His plan is against Babylon to destroy it,
Because it is the vengeance of the LORD,
The vengeance for His temple.



All Praise The Ancient Of Days
 
"For this is the time of the LORD’s vengeance;"

No this isnt about Babyln 2500 years ago.
This is about Babylon the great.
 
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