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Anyone read the following
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Wrg,
Yes, I've read that book years ago. It has the great benefit that it was written by someone who set out to refute the resurrection of Jesus, but ended up writing a book in support of the resurrection - based on the evidence. My edition is 192pp and it is in easily accessible language. There is a review of the book HERE.
He does use some questionable sources in the Gospel of Peter and the Gospel of Hebrews, which are regarded as Gnostic, extra-biblical sources that don't have the same historical validity as, say, Tacitus and Josephus.
Morison's book has become dated as it was first written in 1930. There have been more recent and comprehensive treatments of Jesus' resurrection in books such as:
- Gary Habermas and Antony Flew 1987. Did Jesus Rise from the Dead? The Resurrection Debate. San Francisco: Harper & Row Publishers.
- Norman L Geisler 1989/2004. The Battle for the Resurrection. Nashville: Thomas Nelson Publishers. This is one of the most helpful books I've read that deals with relatively contemporary challenges to the resurrection.
- Ross Clifford 1991. Leading Lawyers Look at the Resurrection. Sutherland, NSW, Australia: An Albatross Book.
- Hank Hanegraaff 2000. Resurrection. Nashville, Tennessee: Word Publishing (Thomas Nelson Inc.)
- Massive, but readable, scholarship (817pp, including bibliography & index) is in N T Wright 2003. The Resurrection of the Son of God. Minneapolis: Fortress Press. This is the most brilliant assessment I've every read (haven't read everything yet), but it is probably in too much detail for most folks.
Oz
Wrg,
There's another easy reading book on the resurrection. My British edition has only 96pp, so it is easily accessible in its language. I'm speaking of Michael Green 1982. The Day Death Died. Leicester, England: Inter-Varsity Press (also available through Downers Grove, Illinois: InterVarsity Press) .
Oz
wondering,
Yes, I've read Frank Morison's, Who Moved the Stone? but I did it many years ago. In recent years I've concentrated more on books such as Norm Geisler, The Battle for the Resurrection; N T Wright, The Resurrection of the Son of God; and another one that's fairly academic: Stephen Davis, Daniel Kendall & Gerald O'Collins (eds) 1997. The Resurrection. Oxford: Oxford University Press.
In this latter one there is an excellent chapter (p. 126ff) by Stephen Davis, '"Seeing" the risen Jesus' which I read for my PhD on Crossan's presuppositions of the resurrection. William Lane Craig has a chapter on 'John Dominic Crossan on the resurrection of Jesus' (p. 249ff). In some (not all) of these chapters there is a response by another scholar.
Your Aussie mate,
Oz
GodsGrace
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Hi @Oz
Could you please resend that address where you get books written in English? (I mean site).
I'll order some of the above.
You said in post no. 2:
Norman L Geisler 1989/2004. The Battle for the Resurrection. Nashville: Thomas Nelson Publishers. This is one of the most helpful books I've read that deals with relatively contemporary challenges to the resurrection.
I'm interested in learning the contemporary challenges to the resurrection. They're different from the old ones??
Thanks.
Wondering
Could you please resend that address where you get books written in English? (I mean site).
I'll order some of the above.
You said in post no. 2:
Norman L Geisler 1989/2004. The Battle for the Resurrection. Nashville: Thomas Nelson Publishers. This is one of the most helpful books I've read that deals with relatively contemporary challenges to the resurrection.
I'm interested in learning the contemporary challenges to the resurrection. They're different from the old ones??
Thanks.
Wondering
Wondering,
I purchase my English books from the Book Depository in the UK at: http://www.bookdepository.com/. That's because it offers 'free' postage worldwide. However, I've just done a check on that site for The Battle for the Resurrection by Norman Geisler and found they have none in stock. If I purchase a $20 book from the USA it costs me that amount again in postage (which I find to be a ridiculous price).
I've checked out a couple other UK sites but without success. Google found me a lot of other stores that you may be able to check to see if the book is available. The 2004 edition is available from USA stores such AbeBooks.com.
Many of the contemporary challenges to the resurrection come with a strong postmodern flavour where the bodily resurrection becomes an apparition or some other imposed belief on the text. In olden days we used to call it eisegesis (i.e. reading meaning into the text) instead of obtaining meaning out of the text, which is exegesis.
See Albert Mohler, Is truth really plural? Postmodernism in full flower.
Oz
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Wrg1405
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Just
Just starting it. I want to get an understanding of what's out there in terms of people refuting the resurrection and how to answer them.
JohnDB
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A testimony of sorts I found as a surprise...
I'm not sure if you like American history or not but Benjamin Franklin's autobiography contains one. He tells of his own life and views... and his personal search for God.
The punchline is told in the first paragraph. But the road that he took to get there was rather interesting in a lot of ways. Mainly in that he never lied to himself and admitted when he fell short. He was prideful and arrogant at times... always scheming and planning something... sometimes for his benefit and at other times for others.
Quite a unique read.
I'm not sure if you like American history or not but Benjamin Franklin's autobiography contains one. He tells of his own life and views... and his personal search for God.
The punchline is told in the first paragraph. But the road that he took to get there was rather interesting in a lot of ways. Mainly in that he never lied to himself and admitted when he fell short. He was prideful and arrogant at times... always scheming and planning something... sometimes for his benefit and at other times for others.
Quite a unique read.
Wrg,
There's an excellent chapter, 'Did Jesus Really Rise from the Dead?' in Norman L Geisler & Frank Turek 2004. I Don't Have Enough Faith to Be an Atheist. Wheaton, Illinois: Crossway Books, pp. 299-324. This will give you an overview of the issues with some pertinent responses.
Oz
GodsGrace
CF Ambassador
Thanks Oz.
Will take all into consideration regarding the postage, etc.
Maybe someone might be coming over? We'll see.
I appreciate your info.
Wondering
GodsGrace
CF Ambassador
This book is perfect. Concise and to the point.
It even explains why (maybe - who could be sure?) Pilot was so reluctant to persecute Jesus. No one was in Pilot's head at the time, but it makes sense.
You'll like it.
It would be interesting to know why YOU think the resurrection was real, but that would be another thread...
Wondering
Deborah13
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Have you read any Josh McDowell and if so, what do you think of them?
Wrg1405
Member
Sorry don't understand what you mean.
Wrg1405
Member
Heard of him but not got any of his books
Deborah13
Member
I haven't read him either, so I was wondering..
Wrg1405
Member
Have you read the reason for God? By Timothy Keller. It's a good book.
GodsGrace
CF Ambassador
Josh McDowell is good. Easy and simple to understand.
But he's going to be too simple and easy for Oz.
But good for persons seeking God.
W
GodsGrace
CF Ambassador
Deborah13
Member
No, I haven't read any books really about proving God's exists or who Jesus is and what He did, except for Mere Christianity.