Are humans animals?

[handy]

animals do feel atached to us.but that isnt the love you are talking about. i know you have seen dogs mourn for thier buddy or their owner when he or she dies. when i left for war my german shephard didnt eat for days!

Yes, my dog was totally broken when his life-long companion Cleo died. He now a happy dog again, but he still misses her. If he goes by a place where she used to sleep, he gets sad. We can't leave him alone now, not at all.

 

[jasoncran]

i do think the domestic animals(dogs and cats and others) point us to the unconditional love of the lord.
we can get mad at them and even punish them and still will wag that tail(dog) when we come home.

they sit at our side when we are sick and depressed. mine does. when my ribs were killing my dog slept in the bed next to me. and whined when i writhed in pain a few times.

 

[Caroline H]

animals do feel atached to us.but that isnt the love you are talking about. i know you have seen dogs mourn for thier buddy or their owner when he or she dies. when i left for war my german shephard didnt eat for days!

Yes, my dog was totally broken when his life-long companion Cleo died. He now a happy dog again, but he still misses her. If he goes by a place where she used to sleep, he gets sad. We can't leave him alone now, not at all.

:puppydogeyes

 

[jasoncran]

man that movie, marley and me is reminded. i hugged my dog after that one. made me cry a few tears, though now one saw that, cant cry over that let people know. i have a reputation to keep, lol

i think i will hug my dog now.

 

[Mysteryman]

Another key word that seperates us from these is --- Love

Au contraire! I think that animals love far more purely than people do. Their love, especially the love of dogs, is a lot more unconditional than humans. 'Smatter of fact, IMO, the reason why God created dogs and cats was to give us daily examples of godly love.

HI

It is my understanding that dogs and cats , and yes, even my cows, can understand affection from a human being. But they never love you back. Love is something only a human has. Animals become attached because of their make up. For instance, a cow is a herd member. She see's humans as a herd member. But you as a human do not see yourself as a herd member. The same with our pets, which is why we can domesticate certian creatures, and not others.

Each kind of animal has a certain type relationship with each other. This is why you do not try and domesticate a crocidile. And even any domesticated animal still has to be given a certain amount of respect, because of the fact that they are still what they are in nature.

You can domesticate a chimp more easily than a gorilla. However, one should never let up their guard on any animal that they think has been domesticated.

No, animals do not love. They respond in such a manner as they would based within their nature. For instance, your dog gives you respect because you are the one who is dominate. It repeats things that it wants to do , like playing and fetching a ball. It can be trained to do many things. But one thing it can not do is love. The less an animal fears you, the more relaxed they become while in your presence. Especially the one who feeds them.

We humans give our animals way too much of a human charector when it comes to our pets. They are what they are -- pets. They respond because of their make up that God has given them. Dogs miss other dogs because they live in packs where they depend on one another for just about everything, including companionship.

 

[Caroline H]

About the comment that we share 95-98% of our DNA with chimps... We share about 60% of our DNA with bananas, so does that make us half fruit too?

It makes perfect sense that we would have such similar DNA as chimps, because our bodies are built somewhat similarly. DNA is basically a program for building a body, so if God wanted to fashion different creatures in similar ways, it doesn't mean they're related, it means they have a similar building program.

 

[jasoncran]

About the comment that we share 95-98% of our DNA with chimps... We share about 60% of our DNA with bananas, so does that make us half fruit too?

It makes perfect sense that we would have such similar DNA as chimps, because our bodies are built somewhat similarly. DNA is basically a program for building a body, so if God wanted to fashion different creatures in similar ways, it doesn't mean they're related, it means they have a similar building program.

thank you somebody gets that.

that was the car and motorcycle thing was alluding too.

 

[NinaMMitchell]

HI

It is my understanding that dogs and cats , and yes, even my cows, can understand affection from a human being. But they never love you back. Love is something only a human has. Animals become attached because of their make up. For instance, a cow is a herd member. She see's humans as a herd member. But you as a human do not see yourself as a herd member. The same with our pets, which is why we can domesticate certian creatures, and not others.

Each kind of animal has a certain type relationship with each other. This is why you do not try and domesticate a crocidile. And even any domesticated animal still has to be given a certain amount of respect, because of the fact that they are still what they are in nature.

You can domesticate a chimp more easily than a gorilla. However, one should never let up their guard on any animal that they think has been domesticated.

No, animals do not love. They respond in such a manner as they would based within their nature. For instance, your dog gives you respect because you are the one who is dominate. It repeats things that it wants to do , like playing and fetching a ball. It can be trained to do many things. But one thing it can not do is love. The less an animal fears you, the more relaxed they become while in your presence. Especially the one who feeds them.

We humans give our animals way too much of a human charector when it comes to our pets. They are what they are -- pets. They respond because of their make up that God has given them. Dogs miss other dogs because they live in packs where they depend on one another for just about everything, including companionship.

Wow, so now there are not only very few people that love me, but my own dog doesn't love me either. Thanks for pointing that out. ;) (please don't take that seriously, I was mostly kidding)

 

[jasoncran]

he does have a point, we often project our feelings onto things our others animals when we describe them, ie cars are she. etc

my dog loves me. it comes to me when it wants something typical child.

 

[Mysteryman]

he does have a point, we often project our feelings onto things our others animals when we describe them, ie cars are she. etc

my dog loves me. it comes to me when it wants something typical child.

True, and remember the world war 2 planes , the names they gave them ?

 

[Lewis]

Somebody help me, I woke up this morning and I had monkey feet and hands, and I have this strange propensity to go after bananas, and swing in trees, please somebody help me. Because I will not be able to type tomorrow, because I will be a full fledged monkey.

 

[jasoncran]

Somebody help me, I woke up this morning and I had monkey feet and hands, and I have this strange propensity to go after bananas, and swing in trees, please somebody help me. Because I will not be able to type tomorrow, because I will be a full fledged monkey.

paleotogolists will love the new specimen, the first transitional model.

 

[happyjoy]

Why the need to perform such mental Olympics to avoid the obvious?

The fact we are animals is even more obvious and intuitive then the fact that the earth revolves around the sun.

Might as well say gravity isn't real because its really God tying us to earth with invisible strings. The promotion of ignorance is one of the reasons the U.S. is a declining superpower. We used to promote education, and call it a virtue. Now superstition is all anyone wants.

 

[Caroline H]

This analogy is probably going to get torn up really quickly...but I'm saying it anyway

Broccoli and trees are both plants, but broccoli aren't trees even though they have similar structures.



Ok...go ahead, rip away

 

[happyjoy]

This analogy is probably going to get torn up really quickly...but I'm saying it anyway

Broccoli and trees are both plants, but broccoli aren't trees even though they have similar structures.



Ok...go ahead, rip away

That isn't an analogy it is a simple statement of fact. Both broccoli and trees are in the plant kingdom. Humans and cats are both in the animal kingdom, but a broccoli aren't trees, and humans aren't cats.

The organization of living things can be seen like a pyramid or tree with seven major levels or categories: Kingdom, Phylum, Class, Order, Family, Genus, Species.

 

[jasoncran]

when you tell us that we are animals it has this connation, we have no freewill and are not made image of the lord. then when we say that if you say that is true then we can act as such and not care about each other and so on. you get uppitiy and i did mean that. worldwiews.

naturalism. all that theres is reason and can be explained vs the christian world view
the latter God created man in his image and that we have dominion over the earth and have stewardship.
the bible never says that we arent similiar to fellow living beings. we are but we have makers mark in us. whether we are saved or not. all of us know that there's more to this world than Dawkins will admit.

when i'm dying or others whom do we cry out to? God.or the higher being we think we need. even though the later maynot be the one true God why is that? when we are face to face with the lord here on in heaven every knee shall bow and toungue confess.a muslim when he is confronted with the truth, will wither reject the Almighty or accept him. No men have an excuse the law of the lord is written on all mens heart whether they hear the gospel or not.

no that doesnt mean babies will see hell or mentally challenged, but that we have no excuse once we see that we need something and never inquire what it is or when presented with the truth we deny and refuse it.

 

[happyjoy]

when you tell us that we are animals it has this connation, we have no freewill and are not made image of the lord. then when we say that if you say that is true then we can act as such and not care about each other and so on. you get uppitiy and i did mean that. worldwiews.

naturalism. all that theres is reason and can be explained vs the christian world view
the latter God created man in his image and that we have dominion over the earth and have stewardship.
the bible never says that we arent similiar to fellow living beings. we are but we have makers mark in us. whether we are saved or not. all of us know that there's more to this world than Dawkins will admit.

when i'm dying or others whom do we cry out to? God.or the higher being we think we need. even though the later maynot be the one true God why is that? when we are face to face with the lord here on in heaven every knee shall bow and toungue confess.a muslim when he is confronted with the truth, will wither reject the Almighty or accept him. No men have an excuse the law of the lord is written on all mens heart whether they hear the gospel or not.

no that doesnt mean babies will see hell or mentally challenged, but that we have no excuse once we see that we need something and never inquire what it is or when presented with the truth we deny and refuse it.

You draw the same false conclusions the RCC drew about the Sun orbiting the Earth. They postulated that if it was true that the Earth were no longer considered the center of the universe that meant we weren't special. They were wrong then, and you are wrong now.

Don't allow superstition to substitute for faith. God doesn't stop existing because we acknowledge the obvious. God made it that obvious. Often Christians make themselves look silly when they overly devote their time to coming up with theories to battle science. They have written huge books. Honestly when I have browsed the books about YEC it looks as realistic as the Star Trek manuals or Astrology books I have seen. Detailed but made up.

Faith isn't convincing ourselves of something comforting to believe in. Faith is acknowledging the obvious truth of the universe and knowing God exists anyway.

 

[Caroline H]

I find it curious that you keep on bringing up the flat earth belief... what has that to do with this topic?

 

[Lewis]

Somebody help me, I woke up this morning and I had monkey feet and hands, and I have this strange propensity to go after bananas, and swing in trees, please somebody help me. Because I will not be able to type tomorrow, because I will be a full fledged monkey.

paleotogolists will love the new specimen, the first transitional model.

It's to late Jason, and this is permanent.

 

[Nick]

Ok...go ahead, rip away

Like this?

You just got ripped! :biglaugh