Are The Amish Considered Christians?

[for_his_glory]

I read that when they take out mortgages on their homes the banks force them to have power hooked up. So when the mortgage runs out, many of the Amish will take out a second mortgage to keep their electricity.

This is true and for the purpose of resale to the public. They have to maintain that which is already in the home, but they do not have to use anything that comes against their beliefs.

 

[SytheF]

Actually the bits are attached to the harness that the reins are attached to, not the buggy. The buggy is attached to a collar harness different from the bit harness.

Actually , the factor of bits was what I was referring to. I know how buggies are hitched.

 

[for_his_glory]

Up until after WWII most rural American farms had no electricity or power or even indoor plumbing as the power kings focused on dense city populations for easy profit. After the war it was through government intervention that finally brought power and plumbing to our farms so that today the USA has the capability to produce 7x the amount of food its population needs,

Today we find a similar problem getting internet to our rural farmers and legislation is being enacted to bring those services to rural farms.

President Trump already signed that bill and I hope it happens soon as I live out in the country and still have the old copper phone lines, but yet not more than a quarter of a mile they have Verizon Fios lines. I hate dial-up.

I remember the house I grew up in had the old oil lamp pipes even though we did have electric, but no plumbing. We had well water with an indoor hand pump in the pantry and all water had to e heated on the stove. I was sixteen when we finally got hot and cold running water and an indoor bathroom. What a treat that was.............no more outhouse

 

[SytheF]

I read that when they take out mortgages on their homes the banks force them to have power hooked up. So when the mortgage runs out, many of the Amish will take out a second mortgage to keep their electricity.

I wouldn't take anyone's word on what you heard there. Research yourself. The Amish tradition is wrapped in religious ideology. A bank can't force. Seek for yourself the facts. My advice.

 

[WinterPuma]

Yeah, I don't buy that either. Consider how long a mortgage runs on average. That would be contrary to everything they hold in tradition and faith. And it would lend a temptation to use the simplicity electricity affords rather than stand by the old ways.
Amish farms when sold usually stay within the community. They have no heat, no electricity. If they are sold, as is the case in areas on the east coast, they can typically be sold to land developers.

 

[for_his_glory]

Yeah, I don't buy that either. Consider how long a mortgage runs on average. That would be contrary to everything they hold in tradition and faith. And it would lend a temptation to use the simplicity electricity affords rather than stand by the old ways.
Amish farms when sold usually stay within the community. They have no heat, no electricity. If they are sold, as is the case in areas on the east coast, they can typically be sold to land developers.

The Amish, at least in my area, are not a community anymore like they were in Lancaster, PA many years ago when they settled there as they are spread out from one another in rural areas. When they sell their homes the sale is through a Realtor and is opened to the public and that is why they have to sell the home in tack with electricity even though they do not use it nor are they tempted by it as it strongly goes against their beliefs. Many heat their homes by gas heaters and fireplaces if there is one and never use the furnace as even if it is a gas furnace it takes electric to run the fan. Even in their sawmills which are a large part of their income they use electric machinery, but use gas generators to run them.

 

[for_his_glory]

Another thing is back in the day they would never use a bank as all the money was kept within the community by the Elders, but now they keep money in the bank, eat out in restaurants and even buy groceries like anyone else and that includes meat, canned vegetables, bread, pastries and all sorts of chips and such snacks like that.

 

[HeIsRisen2018]

Another thing is back in the day they would never use a bank as all the money was kept within the community by the Elders, but now they keep money in the bank, eat out in restaurants and even buy groceries like anyone else and that includes meat, canned vegetables, bread, pastries and all sorts of chips and such snacks like that.

I know that down in Willoughby (that's in Ohio I don't live there and I'm not going to give out what city I'm actually from) they have a restaurant where the Amish actually cook the food. I have been there before and the food is really good. I love their roastbeef sandwiches. The bread is freshly baked.

 

[HeIsRisen2018]

Never mind it's Middlefield.

 

[for_his_glory]

Never mind it's Middlefield.

Wow, you are only two hours from me. That's cool. You probably do have a lot of Amish around there.

 

[HeIsRisen2018]

Wow, you are only two hours from me. That's cool. You probably do have a lot of Amish around there.

I don't live there I have just been there before.

 

[for_his_glory]

I don't live there I have just been there before.

OH OK

 

[HeIsRisen2018]

OH OK

Yes sorry, I like you a lot but no offense or anything, but I don't trust ANYONE on line to give out my direct location. I'm not saying you are, but online anybody can pretend to be anybody they want to. It can be very deciving and dangerous. You shouldn't even trust me to be who I say I am even though I know that I am. The point is that you don't know that and I want you and everyone else on here to stay safe and use the wisdom that God gave you.

 

[for_his_glory]

Yes sorry, I like you a lot but no offense or anything, but I don't trust ANYONE on line to give out my direct location. I'm not saying you are, but online anybody can pretend to be anybody they want to. It can be very deciving and dangerous. You shouldn't even trust me to be who I say I am even though I know that I am. The point is that you don't know that and I want you and everyone else on here to stay safe and use the wisdom that God gave you.

You should never give out any personal information on the internet or even on the phone. This is an evil world we live in and parents need to keep a close watch what their kids are doing online especially in social medias

 

[jasonc]

Uhm,a bank may force you to have it installed but you dont have to pay for power,a bank mortgages the house but is not the power company. I work for a utility. I input new meters or notice the name change.when i bought my home I had to pay a connection fee aND a deposit .

A fha,va loan require one kitchen light,a bedroom light,stove, fridge,dish washer,dish water disposal.

In our area history the grid I worked for was primarily the power company to ask for a power line to or a temp pole.the state since 1911 regulated boundaries,ensured stability, price honesty. My wife's aunt lived in a 1890s era house with out door plumbing ,as her dad as well.this was moved to where it is now.it had no power until she paid 500 dollars to have the city I work for run power miles outside city limits to it and it is reason the city serves it westward limit. I'm sure that would be an interesting research one day as those psc boundaries are whacky.read power one a half street,county water next to our water yet both homes are served by our electric grid.

It is costly to run a line to a single home where there is no other homes or customers nearby

 

[Creative]

I wouldn't take anyone's word on what you heard there. Research yourself. The Amish tradition is wrapped in religious ideology. A bank can't force. Seek for yourself the facts. My advice.

I believe the book I was reading was a true crime story called "Abandoned Prayers" by Greg Olsen. I read it probably 30 years ago.


"On Christmas Eve in 1985, a hunter found a young boy's body along an icy corn field in Nebraska. The residents of Chester, Nebraska, buried him as "Little Boy Blue", unclaimed and unidentified - until a phone call from Ohio two years later led authorities to Eli Stutzman, the boy's father.

Eli Stutzman, the son of an Amish bishop, was by all appearances a dedicated farmer and family man in the country's strictest religious sect.'

I first read about the incident in a Reader's Digest article and later saw a book on it.

 

[SytheF]

I believe the book I was reading was a true crime story called "Abandoned Prayers" by Greg Olsen. I read it probably 30 years ago.


"On Christmas Eve in 1985, a hunter found a young boy's body along an icy corn field in Nebraska. The residents of Chester, Nebraska, buried him as "Little Boy Blue", unclaimed and unidentified - until a phone call from Ohio two years later led authorities to Eli Stutzman, the boy's father.

Eli Stutzman, the son of an Amish bishop, was by all appearances a dedicated farmer and family man in the country's strictest religious sect.'

I first read about the incident in a Reader's Digest article and later saw a book on it.

Sorry, I don't know how that true crime story responds to my comment about researching yourself what you claimed here:
"I read that when they take out mortgages on their homes the banks force them to have power hooked up. So when the mortgage runs out, many of the Amish will take out a second mortgage to keep their electricity."

 

[Creative]

Sorry, I don't know how that true crime story responds to my comment about researching yourself what you claimed here:
"I read that when they take out mortgages on their homes the banks force them to have power hooked up. So when the mortgage runs out, many of the Amish will take out a second mortgage to keep their electricity."

I am sorry, I did not make a claim, I stated that I read it from somewhere. In the book it stated that the Amish were happy to be able to get electricity when they took out mortgages and then would take out another to keep the electricity. The Amish in fact by using the electricity were morally keeping with a contract (promise) so they did not see it as a breach to their beliefs but practicing them. Olsen wrote this was a widespread practice. Olsen's mention of this rings true so I have no intention of researching the validity of it, feel free to do so yourself if it matters that much to you.

 

[jaybird]

spare the whip spoil the horse...

The Amish for the most part are exemplary Christians. There are good and bad though in every group. I remember back in the 1990s when a teen killed like a dozen Amish kids walking home from school when his pickup he was speeding in went out of control The Amish parents with grace and dignity forgave him.

this is the best answer i seen yet.

 

[OzSpen]

As somebody who has Amish and Mennonite in her blood, I'm just curious,.. how close are their beliefs related to Christianity? What is really the difference between Ami

HeIsRisen,

I graduated from Ashland Theological Seminary, Ashland OH, which is a city that includes an Old Order Amish community. I loved to eat their farm produce but heard of some severe "shunning" examples.

See Amish shunning is central to Ohio hate crime trial - The San Diego

See also: 10 facts you never knew about the Amish.

In my speaking with Amish men, I found no interest in spreading the Gospel through evangelism. Here is a summary example of: 5 Beliefs That Set the Amish Apart From Other Protestant Christians.

Oz