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Are you a true Sabbath keeper?

Adullam

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The word sabbath means to stop! In the OT this was a purely physical ceasing from one's activity in order to show forth God as Creator as well as giving a break to both man and beast.

In the NT we have the Lord of the Sabbath, Jesus Christ taking sabbath to a new level. Where before, men interpreted laws through physical actions, Jesus clarified the law to the level of the mind and thoughts that men produce.

Even to look at a woman to lust after her was the same as having committing adultery with her. This narrowed the road significantly!

So it is with the sabbath. We are to cease from having our own thoughts outside of Christ. We are not to live independently but dependently on the mind of Christ. Jesus Christ wants to a live a perfect life through us!

How many have ceased from their own thoughts and ways? How many are controlled from heaven so that we only think and do as the Father thinks and does? How many have been to the cross and have ceased from their own lives? How many are true sabbath keepers?
 
Amen.

The true Sabbath now is called the rest of God as spoken of in Hebrews. We enter into it via faith. Faith in the promises. When we believe a promise to be true we "sabbath" , we rest. If we believe something is true, we stop our own efforts and just wait for God to bring it to pass. We may speak to the mountain, and then rest.

2Pe 1:3 According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that [pertain] unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:

2Pe 1:4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust


When a problem arises, then we must find the promise that stands against it. We then believe the promise and enter into the sabbath rest. Our confession and actions must show that we are indeed in agreement with the Word. Then God will bring the fulfillment of the promise, once our faith has stood the test.
 
Ps 94:11The LORD knoweth the thoughts of man, that they are vanity.



If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words: Is. 58:13
 
Cornelius said:
Amen.

The true Sabbath now is called the rest of God as spoken of in Hebrews. We enter into it via faith. Faith in the promises. When we believe a promise to be true we "sabbath" , we rest. If we believe something is true, we stop our own efforts and just wait for God to bring it to pass. We may speak to the mountain, and then rest.

2Pe 1:3 According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that [pertain] unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:

2Pe 1:4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust


When a problem arises, then we must find the promise that stands against it. We then believe the promise and enter into the sabbath rest. Our confession and actions must show that we are indeed in agreement with the Word. Then God will bring the fulfillment of the promise, once our faith has stood the test.


:)
 
Future worship and holy days:

Isaiah 66:23  And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.

Zechariah 14:18  And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the LORD will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.

Zechariah 14:19  This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.

the saints then already know and do (or would not be the saints) what the heathens have yet to consider to be true. To worship before the LORD at His appointed time. To honour that He is God, and praise Him. It's not about us, we will not manifest Him to be seated in the place to be worshipped. That's a "little distinction" Satan does not want us to know. He wanted the spirit without the submission. That's why he hates 2 things more than others: God's times and God's laws

And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time. Dan 7:25

We receive grace to be holy, this holiness does not separate us from the Grace-giver, actually we then will honour Him inwardly and outwardly. Some have separated the two by believing one to be spiritual and the other carnal. By doing so they make the exact same mistake gnostics and antinomians made before, and so have separated themselves by their own heresy.

If one 'spiritualizes' beyond of what is written, one actually rationalizes that God could impossibly have meant what He said. That's not spiritual. That's fatal.

"If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day.......THEN....." (and not before).

We can believe it. Or reject it with "...and this is the true meaning of..."
 
Elijah here with Christs Words!

Gen.2
[1] Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.
[2] And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
[3] And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.
[4] These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,

(It does not take much sense of any kind to understand that! The Seventh DAY IS THE LORDS BLESSED + SANCTIFIED 24 Hr, DAY and [set aside for Holy use as we will find later on!)

Psalms 135

[13] Thy name, O LORD, endureth for ever; and thy memorial, O LORD, throughout all generations. (and this also finds two truths! And it does ot take any genius to know what Gods 7th 24 hour Sanctified Blessed Holy Day is! It is the Earths BIRTHDAY or as seen Inspired here, the Earths Memorial that that lasts throughout [all generations!] )

And Exod. 20

[7] Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
(one best not be teaching for truth their Gen. 4:7 'false sun fruity' master's VAIN garbage!)

[8] Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
[9] Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:

(Can you imagine satan trying to tell you that you will be on an ETERNAL Heavenly Welfare ( Isa. 66:22-23 + Isa. 65:21-25) with breaking the six day's of COMMANDED work even!! These ones are as BRAIN DEAD to beliv'ism anything that he suggests! Not only do they hate Christ, but they hate His 7th Day Sabbath! 'If ye Love Me , KEEP MY COMMANDMENTS, He say's! + Dan. 7:25)

[10] But the seventh day [is the sabbath of the LORD thy God:] in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:

(and these foolish ones are trying to project that in Eternity we will have a 'heavenly workless of do nothings, even + these ones above in our 'floating cloud' location, or where ever?? Anyone who believ'ism this garbage will buy into anything that satan tosses their way! Including the Eternal Hell with Eternal maggots of Immortality!)

[11] For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

(And Christ talks about a LIAR from the beginning that most all believism, huh! Or are these above Words hard to understand for you'ins?)

Eccl. 3

[14] I know that, whatsoever God doeth, (or sayeth!) it shall be for ever: nothing can be put to it, nor any thing taken from it: and God doeth it, that men should fear before him.

(that is almost Word for Word as Inspired in the Last verses of WARNING in Rev.'s [BOOK]! )

[15] That which hath been is now; and that which is to be hath already been; and God requireth that which is past.

Rev. 22
[18] For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: (or these females!)
[19] And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
(an you can be sure that it is THE BOOK, not the divisions that the arm of flesh compled! But all 66 Books! Matt. 4:4 + John 1's WORD OF CHRIST/GOD! + 2 Tim. 3:16)

Exod. 32

[30] And it came to pass on the morrow, that Moses said unto the people, Ye have sinned a great sin: and now I will go up unto the LORD; peradventure I shall make an atonement for your sin.
[31] And Moses returned unto the LORD, and said, Oh, this people have sinned a great sin, and have made them gods of gold.
[32] Yet now, if thou wilt forgive their sin--; and if not, blot me, I pray thee, out of thy book which thou hast written.
[33] And the LORD said unto Moses, Whosoever hath sinned against me, him will I blot out of my book.

The FACT! Heb. 3
[7] Wherefore (as the Holy Ghost saith, To day if ye will hear his voice,
[8] Harden not your hearts, as in the provocation, in the day of temptation in the wilderness:
[9] When your fathers tempted me, proved me, and saw my works forty years.
[10] Wherefore I was grieved with that generation, and said, They do alway err in their heart; and they have not known my ways.
[11] So I sware in my wrath, They shall not enter into my rest.)

START HERE with Exod. 16 TESTING!

[12] Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.
[13] But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.
[14] For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;
[15] While it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts, as in the provocation.
[16] For some, when they had heard, did provoke: howbeit not all that came out of Egypt by Moses.
[17] But with whom was he grieved forty years? was it not with them that had sinned, whose carcases fell in the wilderness?
[18] And to whom sware he that they should not enter into his rest, but to them that believed not?
[19] So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief.

Heb. 4

[1] Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.

[2] For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.
[3] For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.

[4] For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.
[5] And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest.
[6] Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:

[7] Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.
[8] For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.
[9] There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
[10] For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.
[11] Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.

And what is sin in the New Covenant as some falsely teach?? God does not leave any ignorant who will be saved!
1 John 3
[4] Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

[3] And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
[4] He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

James 2

[10] For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
[11] For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.
[12] So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.

And where is that Eternal Law seen just before Christ comes again?? Rev. 11

[18] And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

[19] And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail.

1 Kings 8

[6] And the priests brought in the ark of the covenant of the LORD unto his place, into the oracle of the house, to the most holy place, even under the wings of the cherubims.
[7] For the cherubims spread forth their two wings over the place of the ark, and the cherubims covered the ark and the staves thereof above.
[8] And they drew out the staves, that the ends of the staves were seen out in the holy place before the oracle, and they were not seen without: and there they are unto this day.
[9] There was nothing in the ark save the two tables of stone, which Moses put there at Horeb, when the LORD made a covenant with the children of Israel, when they came out of the land of Egypt.
[10] And it came to pass, when the priests were come out of the holy place, that the cloud filled the house of the LORD,

Eccl. 12
[13] Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.
[14] For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.

Rev. 20
[11] And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
[12] And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and [the books were opened:] and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

These folks are ALL DEAD at this time, READ IT AGAIN!! They are so far, in heaven only by RECORD BOOKS OF THEIR [[WORKS]]. This tosses out the whole ball of false satanic wax of only believ'ism! (+ everything else of his!)

PS: And yes to your question, 'i' could be nothing else!
 
THE RIGHT AND WRONG INTERPRETATION OF HEBREWS 4


Hebrews 4:3-10 .is the next passage used by Pastor Taylor [Ex-SDA] to support his view
that for New Testament Christians the Sabbath is a spiritual, daily experience of rest in
Christ and not a literal observance of the seventh day. He believes that “the author of
Hebrews is saying that those who believe in Jesus are resting in a Sabbath-like rest.
The time to enter that rest is another day called TODAY! Five times in the passage
‘Today’ is repeated. The Sabbath-like rest that is offered to us in Christ is a ‘Today’
experience; today and every day as we trust in Christ's righteousness and rest from any
trust in our own works. Here again the New Testament indicates that the Sabbath is a
FULFILLED institution.
Here we see that Jesus is our Sabbath-like rest. When we trust
Him by faith, we are experiencing Sabbath-like rest each and every day of our lives!
What a beautiful concept! Jesus is your Sabbath and mine when we trust daily in Him.

http://www.come2jesus.com.au/hebrews4.htm
 
Cornelius said:
THE RIGHT AND WRONG INTERPRETATION OF HEBREWS 4


Hebrews 4:3-10 .is the next passage used by Pastor Taylor [Ex-SDA] to support his view
that for New Testament Christians the Sabbath is a spiritual, daily experience of rest in
Christ and not a literal observance of the seventh day. He believes that “the author of
Hebrews is saying that those who believe in Jesus are resting in a Sabbath-like rest.
The time to enter that rest is another day called TODAY! Five times in the passage
‘Today’ is repeated. The Sabbath-like rest that is offered to us in Christ is a ‘Today’
experience; today and every day as we trust in Christ's righteousness and rest from any
trust in our own works. Here again the New Testament indicates that the Sabbath is a
FULFILLED institution.
Here we see that Jesus is our Sabbath-like rest. When we trust
Him by faith, we are experiencing Sabbath-like rest each and every day of our lives!
What a beautiful concept! Jesus is your Sabbath and mine when we trust daily in Him.

http://www.come2jesus.com.au/hebrews4.htm

Amen - beautiful concept indeed! Peace, perfect peace :yes
 
Ex/adventists?? That is like going on satan's ground at the forbidden tree in the Garden to learn of what WAS & IS STILL INSIDE THE ARK OF GOD IN HEAVEN! (instead of reading God's Word of Rev.11:18-19 + Eccl. 12:13-14. But I am NO Adventist for other reasons such as the guy is probally still on their record books?? At least could be, like another poster on this site several years back who stated thar he was a SDA in good standing for 18 years, (???) & was lookung for a Adventist on this site to debate 'his' church doctrine of the 2300 days ..' I wrote back that he was NO Adventist if you asked me.

But on the thread topic of rest?? Simply put, Christ says that IF one LOVES Him, keep My Commandments! And it was He who PENNED THEM. Acts 7:38 and Steven was FULL of the Holy Ghost!! (ibid 55!) So THERE NO WAY to have REST IN CHRIST when the Holy Spirit is Being GRIEVED + Quenched! Gen. 6:3

And most do not worry WHO OBEY about REST & OBEDIENCE in this FREEDOM! And James 2:8-12 finds [ALL ELSE who are in BONDAGE to satan!] And read the Forth Command that IS IN THESE ONES MIND & HEART. It even INCLUDES 6 DAYS OF WORK! + the 'REST' for the man..Maid + Stranger's & Animals! As stated before, heaven WILL BE NO ETERNAL DO NOTHING OF WELFARE, AS EARTH ONES ARE in Rev. 3:16, huh!

SO: If you can buy into this garbage?? :screwloose Their Eternal rest will be as documented in Obad. 1:16.. To BE AS THOUGH THEY HAD NEVER BEEN! (think on that before you fall to sleep tonight!) And don't any agree with me of at least DUMPING these ones who claim to be adventists from their membership books??? :crying

--=Elijah
 
There is a young lady on another forum that has an interesting question, and the simplicity of it is pure and genuine :

"I'm pretty sure we're all in agreement that we should not 1)have any other gods before Him 2)not bow down to carved images 3)not take the name of the Lord in vain 5)honor our father and mother 6)not commit murder 7) not commit adultery 8)not steal 9)not lie 10)not covet

Notice I left out 4) keep the Sabbath holy and do no work on that day

So my question is, if we all believe we should keep commandment numbers 1,2,3,5,6,7,8,9,and 10...why wouldn't we believe we should keep #4?"
 
Geo said:
There is a young lady on another forum that has an interesting question, and the simplicity of it is pure and genuine :

"I'm pretty sure we're all in agreement that we should not 1)have any other gods before Him 2)not bow down to carved images 3)not take the name of the Lord in vain 5)honor our father and mother 6)not commit murder 7) not commit adultery 8)not steal 9)not lie 10)not covet

Notice I left out 4) keep the Sabbath holy and do no work on that day

So my question is, if we all believe we should keep commandment numbers 1,2,3,5,6,7,8,9,and 10...why wouldn't we believe we should keep #4?"


Because there is STILL a "sabbatismos" for the people of God to keep. But that has now stopped being ONE day, its is now called TODAY. Meaning every day.

I suggest that the people who do not understand what the works are that we have to rest from every day, need to ask the Lord to open their understanding in this matter.
 
If every day would be the same as in "today" this would be a meaningless warning:

"Matthew 24:20  But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day: For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be."

There is day, specified by Jesus, you should pray about when not to flee, if ever possible. And it is not any or every day. Neither is it "today". It's called the sabbath day.
 
Geo said:
If every day would be the same as in "today" this would be a meaningless warning:

"Matthew 24:20  But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day: For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be."

There is day, specified by Jesus, you should pray about when not to flee, if ever possible. And it is not any or every day. Neither is it "today". It's called the sabbath day.


Very True! And 1 John 4:6 finds yet another reason that there are not True 'Loving Motives' seen for ALL Obedience of Christ Covenant!
Including Christ's ETERNAL Claim of.. 'IF YE LOVE ME KEEP MY COMMANDMENTS'

--Elijah
 
Hbr 4:1 Let us fear therefore, lest haply, a promise being left of entering into his rest, any one of you should seem to have come short of it.


Hbr 4:2 For indeed we have had good tidings preached unto us, even as also they: but the word of hearing did not profit them, because it was not united by faith with them that heard.


Hbr 4:3 For we who have believed do enter into that rest; even as he hath said, As I sware in my wrath, They shall not enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.


Hbr 4:4 For he hath said somewhere of the seventh [day] on this wise, And God rested on the seventh day from all his works;


Hbr 4:5 and in this [place] again, They shall not enter into my rest.


Hbr 4:6 Seeing therefore it remaineth that some should enter thereinto, and they to whom the good tidings were before preached failed to enter in because of disobedience,


Hbr 4:7 he again defineth a certain day, To-day, saying in David so long a time afterward (even as hath been said before), To-day if ye shall hear his voice, Harden not your hearts.


Hbr 4:8 For if Joshua had given them rest, he would not have spoken afterward of another day

Its better to read the whole Word of God on a matter, than to fabricate a doctrine on a one scripture.

Hbr 4:9 There remaineth therefore a sabbath rest for the people of God.


Hbr 4:10 For he that is entered into his rest hath himself also rested from his works, as God did from his

Obviously Christians need to rest from their works EVERY day, so this is not speaking of A day. We cannot enter into God REST if we trust in ourselves to solve every problem that comes to us. When we trust God and His promises , we ......rest.

If we do not rest......we are in unbelief, which is the same as disobedience. Then we cannot get the fulfillment of the promises.

Hbr 4:11 Let us therefore give diligence to enter into that rest, that no man fall after the same example of disobedience.

A person who "keeps the Sabbath" is a person who BELIEVE God. It is not a person who just "believe IN God"

Hbr 4:3 For we who have believed do enter into that rest;

Notice its not a person who does nothing on a Saturday that is the rest.......its the person who have BELIEVED. Believed what ? GOD. and what He promised His children regarding sickness, provision , deliverance. etc.
Hbr 3:18 And to whom sware he that they should not enter into his rest, but to them that were disobedient?


Hbr 3:19 And we see that they were not able to enter in because of unbelief.

Because of unbelief in the promises about healing , deliverance and freedom from sin and the curse, Christians will be counted as disobedient and they will be denied entrance into His REST.

No Sabbath rest for those who do not believe that Jesus did indeed take care of the curse of sin and death at the cross for them. NO Sabbath rest for those who preach against the fact that Jesus indeed paid the price and healed us all at the cross. No Sabbath rest for those who do no believe that Jesus finished everything already at the cross.

Sabbath rest comes ONLY to those, who believe these words to be true:
Jhn 19:30 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up his spirit.

Now for those of you who believe it, Go and enter into the REST, the Sabbath of God.

Those who do not: You may stay in on every Saturday and think about it until you come to faith in the promises.
 
Matt 3:15
15 And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him. KJV

The wisdom of God is in the suffering; the fellowship of his suffering.

Joe
 
??????? :screwloose :screwloose Yes Lord, but I,I,I,I will just bring [MY] fruite offering :crying Gen. 4:7
Heaven is a place for ETERNAL welfare! :crazy

--Elijah

PS: No PERSONAL Offense Meant, just your [your posts] of Matt. 25 FOOLISHNESS OF ALL SLEEPING ONES! But there was a 'MIDNIGHT CRY' that is suppose to AWAKEN THESE ONES, RIGHT? And some still seen DEAD as in Eze. 37 :confused ??
 
There are different ways to see the Sabbath according to the mind that is seeing it. Here are 3 cases.

Case 1. A person believes that God wants a literal rest day on the 7th day and it is a sin to do any physical work on this day.

Such was the case in the OT...at least as it was understood by men. The Jews are meant to remember this day as a marker for the sake of creation. A Christian who believes the Sabbath is simply a rest day that a legalistic God is imposing as a type of quirky law to see who will do it,....is a legalist himself. He doesn't have a Christian (enlightened)understanding at all.

Case 2. A person sees the eternal nature of the Sabbath as a ceasing from dead works to turn to Christ and have Him live through them.

This is the proper understanding of the sabbath. Sabbath is a journey's end. God did not start up work again on the 8th day. He CEASED. And so should we.

Case 3. A Christian sees that Sabbath means an end to our own lives and walks in the Spirit. However, he believes that he should also keep the 7th day as a sign of creation. (Jewish Christians fall into this catagory.)

This is perfectly acceptable. The inside of the vessel must first be clean. A Christian can also keep the 7th day as a rest day without being legalistic about it. It depends on the mind and origin of the thoughts.

One man esteems one day above another and another esteems all days alike. There is a perfect liberty in the Body. We all have different roles to play.
 
Adullam said:
There are different ways to see the Sabbath according to the mind that is seeing it. Here are 3 cases.

Case 1. A person believes that God wants a literal rest day on the 7th day and it is a sin to do any physical work on this day.

Such was the case in the OT...at least as it was understood by men. The Jews are meant to remember this day as a marker for the sake of creation. A Christian who believes the Sabbath is simply a rest day that a legalistic God is imposing as a type of quirky law to see who will do it,....is a legalist himself. He doesn't have a Christian (enlightened)understanding at all.

Case 2. A person sees the eternal nature of the Sabbath as a ceasing from dead works to turn to Christ and have Him live through them.

This is the proper understanding of the sabbath. Sabbath is a journey's end. God did not start up work again on the 8th day. He CEASED. And so should we.

Case 3. A Christian sees that Sabbath means an end to our own lives and walks in the Spirit. However, he believes that he should also keep the 7th day as a sign of creation. (Jewish Christians fall into this catagory.)

This is perfectly acceptable. The inside of the vessel must first be clean. A Christian can also keep the 7th day as a rest day without being legalistic about it. It depends on the mind and origin of the thoughts.

One man esteems one day above another and another esteems all days alike. There is a perfect liberty in the Body. We all have different roles to play.
I think that we need to Study & Obey what God says, not the mind of the Jer. 17:5 ones! Hey, andyour post is mixing up moses stuff with THE ONLY THING THAT THE GODHEAD WROTE IN THE BOOK! (Isa. 8:20) + STONE + A BORN AGAIN MIND of some. (No offense meant, just John 3:3 & 2 Cor. 3:3's FACT! or Heb. 10:15-16's!)

But as for your last line?? This is not what my posting is about at all. Even the post talking of Moses laws here, they are their own boss! :wave I am a firm BELIVER of Religious Liberty... EVEN ON FORUMS, huh? ( ;) )
 
Yes there is so much mixing going on in this thread, rest in Jesus by walking in The Spirit, 7th day of creation. Jewish Christians, Moses law, Eternal laws of the born-again ones, then Paul's comparisons with what David says in Psalms 95:7. (Hebrews 3 + 4, read it in the KJV to understand the reference to "not enter into rest" and unbelief in the wilderness.) And then there is what Jesus says about the endtimes and what the prophets say about the millennium sabbaths.

If one differentiates all these, and then without negating what God said gets to that view that brings ALL of the above views into one that does then show the consistent intent of God, then you can see there is no contradiction. If you invalidate all sabbath day references in the Old Testament, you cannot understand the millennium references. There is in fact no truth if one negates anything God says. The angle of looking at it must be wrong then, faith says so, logic confirms it.
 
Hello, :)

Hebrews 3 and four definitely tie the spiritual rest to the Seventh-day Sabbath-keeping initiated and commanded by God in the beginning. Otherwise, we would not find in verse four a direct quote from Genesis 2:2. “For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works†(Hebrews 4:4).

The reason for citing God’s resting on the Sabbath from His work of creation is revealed only when we look at verses nine and ten. Paul says that what remains for God’s people is not KATAPAUSIS (a spiritual rest), but SABBATISMAS, meaning a literal keeping of the Sabbath. Then in verse ten we find the real key which proves beyond a question that the SABBATISMAS rest was not spiritual only, but a cessation from physical work. “For he that is entered into his rest (KATAPAUSIS—spiritual rest), he ALSO (in addition to the spiritual rest) hath ceased from his own works, AS GOD DID FROM HIS.â€

GBU all :pray
 
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