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Bill Cosby responds to Victoria Osteen
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- Sep 11, 2012
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Everything we do as Christians should be to reflect the glory of God, not for our own edification. Her message is completely wrong, and promotes selfish pride. Just another false teaching from the Osteen camp.
hahaha - (sin's not funny, but...*) what Bill Cosby said(whew!thankfully!) (interjected/inserted in the end of the video) is plainly and bluntly true.
*Yhwh laughs at the plans of the wicked.
k9 safesearch, quote of 1st hit
"Psalm 37:12-13 NIVUK - The wicked plot against the righteous ...
... but the Lord laughs at the wicked, ... "
*Yhwh laughs at the plans of the wicked.
k9 safesearch, quote of 1st hit
"Psalm 37:12-13 NIVUK - The wicked plot against the righteous ...
... but the Lord laughs at the wicked, ... "
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There's a big difference between doing something to please God and doing something because God forces you to do it. One is something you do of your own free will because you love God and want to please Him, while the other is something you don't want to do but you do it anyway because you want to avoid the consequences of not doing it.
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no matter what you do, IF you are selfish, you're selfish.
no matter what you do, IF you are not selfish, you're not selfish.
Yhwh declares throughout His Word what is selfish and what is not selfish, and woe to the selfish. woe to the comfortable. and so on.
no matter what you do, IF you are not selfish, you're not selfish.
Yhwh declares throughout His Word what is selfish and what is not selfish, and woe to the selfish. woe to the comfortable. and so on.
in acts, the ones immersed in the Name of Yeshua, those who repented(turned away from their sin, turned to Yhwh) and became part of Yeshua's ekklesia (set apart ones, holy ones, born again ones, the 'church' at that time(not today) )
were
constantly full of joy ... remember ? read acts and see what they did.
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constantly full of joy ... remember ? read acts and see what they did.
TOG
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You only told half the story. How about looking at all of it?
Well im sorry God that I can't go to church tomorow because I'm going for a surf, and I can't make it to the Monday morning prayer meeting the next day, since I'm going fishing.
I'm so sorry if you want me to live my life in consistent negative, misery and fear, doing things like having fellowship with other believers, helping the poor, praying and reading the Bible. Can i not do anything for myself and have a good time?
Sounds a bit different when you tell the whole story, doesn't it? God never said we aren't allowed to be happy, but we should think of Him first, other people second and ourselves last. What is said in the video is that we should think first and foremost of ourselves, which is the very definition of selfishness.I'm so sorry if you want me to live my life in consistent negative, misery and fear, doing things like having fellowship with other believers, helping the poor, praying and reading the Bible. Can i not do anything for myself and have a good time?
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Follower, why must you present such a sad and miserable life in Christ.
For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign inlife by one, Jesus Christ.)
30 For all these things do the nations of the world seek after: and your Father knoweth that ye have need of these things.
Not being home i do not have access to my usual research supplies...
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For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign inlife by one, Jesus Christ.)
30 For all these things do the nations of the world seek after: and your Father knoweth that ye have need of these things.
Not being home i do not have access to my usual research supplies...
2do you think that people were happy in the days of Noah ?
our joy, immersed in Christ Jesus, is beyond what the world can possibly know. and peace, and righteousness.
but in the world, even for believers, is much tribulation , but be of good cheer Yeshua said "I have overcome the world" (not given in to it, not accepted it, not cowed down to it - He overcame it. and believers are to overcome sin and the flesh and the world also, not give in to it. otherwise the 'feelings' good or bad, happy or sad, are of no benefit and just carnal.
our joy, immersed in Christ Jesus, is beyond what the world can possibly know. and peace, and righteousness.
but in the world, even for believers, is much tribulation , but be of good cheer Yeshua said "I have overcome the world" (not given in to it, not accepted it, not cowed down to it - He overcame it. and believers are to overcome sin and the flesh and the world also, not give in to it. otherwise the 'feelings' good or bad, happy or sad, are of no benefit and just carnal.
"James 4:9 Grieve, mourn and wail. Change your laughter to ...
Be miserable and mourn and weep; ... Be miserable and mourn and weep. Your laughter must change to mourning and .."
(quoted from k9 safe search, first link)
see, it is written for a reason, for Yhwh's purpose, and cannot be neglected without great peril.
elsewhere, in acts wonderfully, the people who came to Yeshua and were immersed in His Name,
they did be miserable and mourn and weep for their sins , and they repented and turned to Yhwh and gave up everything instead of continuing ongoing in their sin. they stopped sinning, willingly and joyfully. (with 'stumbling' at times of course, for which Yhwh's Word provides graciously and freely and generously a Way to recover, for most ; not for all it seems).
without repentance, there is no forgiveness of sin (just like without blood there is no remission of sin).
blood of the Lamb, paid at great cost; not lightly, and not to be taken lightly.
so if someone continues blatantly in sin, in carnality, in worldliness according to Yhwh's Word and the Word of Yeshua all throught the N.T., what's to be done ?? applaud and enjoy the 'entertainment' !?
Be miserable and mourn and weep; ... Be miserable and mourn and weep. Your laughter must change to mourning and .."
(quoted from k9 safe search, first link)
see, it is written for a reason, for Yhwh's purpose, and cannot be neglected without great peril.
elsewhere, in acts wonderfully, the people who came to Yeshua and were immersed in His Name,
they did be miserable and mourn and weep for their sins , and they repented and turned to Yhwh and gave up everything instead of continuing ongoing in their sin. they stopped sinning, willingly and joyfully. (with 'stumbling' at times of course, for which Yhwh's Word provides graciously and freely and generously a Way to recover, for most ; not for all it seems).
without repentance, there is no forgiveness of sin (just like without blood there is no remission of sin).
blood of the Lamb, paid at great cost; not lightly, and not to be taken lightly.
so if someone continues blatantly in sin, in carnality, in worldliness according to Yhwh's Word and the Word of Yeshua all throught the N.T., what's to be done ?? applaud and enjoy the 'entertainment' !?
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An honest and rational man. Good view on the "joyous" life God repeatedly says He wants us to have.
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Where did he say he was skipping church or a prayer meeting to do these things? How do you know this is what he is doing? Not everyone that does things for enjoyment from time to time necessarily skips out on God to do that.
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It's implied. I don't apologize to my friends for something I'm doing, unless in interferes with something they want to do. Why would I apologize to God for going fishing or surfing, unless it interferes with something else that He wants me to be doing?
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Many churches do. One example is what I said in my previous post - church service on Sunday and a Monday morning prayer meeting (sometimes called a "prayer breakfast"). The Catholic church has mass twice a day every day of the week. But I must say it's rather interesting to watch all the Christians here justify neglecting the things of God because people are too busy having fun.
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