Born Again Of The Holy Spirit

[for_his_glory]

WOW!!!

I’m thinking a virgin hasn’t done any of that!


JLB

You are right, but I am showing how the hymen can stay intact even during intercourse so one is not necessary a virgin just because it is.

 

[chessman]

Virgin Birth.

So John’ Saying His father was God, not Mary’s betrothed?

And who is the one being-victorious-over the world if not the one believing that Jesus is the Son of God!​

1 John 5:5 - https://www.biblegateway.com/passage?search=1 John 5:5&version=DLNT

Then says that the Holy Spirit testifies to this truth?

This One is the One having come by water and blood: Jesus Christ (not in the water only, but in the water and in the blood). And the Spirit is the One testifying, because the Spirit is the truth.​

1 John 5:6 - https://www.biblegateway.com/passage?search=1 John 5:6&version=DLNT

 

[JLB]

You are right, but I am showing how the hymen can stay intact even during intercourse so one is not necessary a virgin just because it is.

I’m sorry, I just don’t believe that.

The hymen intact has been the way God designed covenant relationship between a man and woman to take place on the wedding night.



JLB

 

[for_his_glory]

I’m sorry, I just don’t believe that.

The hymen intact has been the way God designed covenant relationship between a man and woman to take place on the wedding night.



JLB

God's design yes, sins design no

 

[ezra]

are you all serious ? i mean hymen intercourse ? What would a 12 year old girl think if she read this? how many more pages is it going to take.. I believe its a spiritual Birth .. beyond that its a God thing

 

[MarkT]

The living water refers to the Spirit.

The seed refers to the word.

No where does water refer to the word.


If a virgin has a child, it will come into this world by water and blood.


Simple.


Simple proof of a supernatural virgin birth.



JLB

What do you do after you plant a seed? You water the ground. Paul planted. Apollos watered. God gave growth.

"This is he who came by water and blood, Jesus Christ, not with the water only but with the water and the blood. 7 And the Spirit is the witness, because the Spirit is the truth. 8 There are three witnesses, the Spirit, the water, and the blood; and these three agree. 1John 5:6-8 RSV

There are three witnesses. The Spirit, Mary's water and Mary's blood; and these three agree. Somehow Mary's water agrees with Mary's blood and the Spirit.

Wouldn't it make more sense to say the Spirit and the eternal word and the eternal life agree?

1 John 5:20
And we know that the Son of God has come and has given us understanding, to know him who is true; and we are in him who is true, in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God and eternal life.

 

[JLB]

What do you do after you plant a seed? You water the ground. Paul planted. Apollos watered. God gave growth.

The seed is symbolic of the word.

The water is symbolic of the Spirit.


However, there is no symbolic references in
1 John 5:4-7 as I have shown.



JLB

 

[ezrider]

Hosea 2:19, 20 says nothing about battle armor.

Of course Hosea 2:19-20 has nothing to do battle armor. Who said it did? Hosea 2:19-20 has to do with a wedding garment.

 

[ezrider]

Luke 12:36
And ye yourselves like unto men that wait for their lord, when he will return from the wedding; that when he cometh and knocketh, they may open unto him immediately.



Wait too long and... Oh wait. How did the parable of the foolish virgins end? Depart from me...?

 

[ezrider]

He who has ears to hear should hear what the Spirit saith.

1 Corinthians 15:53
For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.

It has nothing to do with being "made" incorruptible, or being "made" immortal. It is about putting on a new garment. But you continue to reject the notion, so carry along as you will, and while you wait adorned in your armor, perhaps you might take the time to actually read the passage for what it says.

What does it mean to PUT ON???? Perhaps you could give us all the Strong's definition for the Greek word used in this context.

g1746. ἐνδύω endyō; from 1722 and 1416 (in the sense of sinking into a garment); to invest with clothing (literally or figuratively): — array, clothe (with), endue, have (put) on.

Also reference its usage in:
Matthew 22:11
And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment:


As well as it usage here:
Revelation 19:14
And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.


The armies here are clothed in white linen, NOT in a breastplate with a helmet and a shield.

 

[for_his_glory]

Of course Hosea 2:19-20 has nothing to do battle armor. Who said it did? Hosea 2:19-20 has to do with a wedding garment.

We have been through all of this already and you refuse to answer my question so I'm done with this as it has nothing to do with the topic and I am moving past this. You have a great day.