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[__ Prayer __] can't shake these voices

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I hear voices sometimes. Usually when I'm under stress. My official diagnosis is apparently still Bipolar I w/psychotic features. I take meds, including a newer antipyshotic. The meds work... but there's only so much you can expect from a tranquilizer...

Anyway, I'm having trouble shaking these voices. Like I said, you can only expect so much from a tranquilizer, and I've just about maxed out my Abilify dosage. I take it to The Lord in prayer a good bit. So far, I seem to be developing insight into the voices. For instance...sometimes, the voices are muffled, which is weird, but my counselor actually asked me "are the voices kind of...muffled?," so I'm clearly not the only one this happens to. They say things about me, things I've heard other people say about me, and it loops in my mind. "college drop out," "nothing special," "too old," etc. These are all things that others have said about me, and now its being replayed...inside my brain. Lucky me.

My counselor said I need to get out more and try some positive self talk to counter the negative loops. I don't know how or where to get social interaction, honestly. I'm the pariah around here, or I was. Lots of things going on there...basically, I was something of a weakling until Jesus healed me. Add in social class issues, homophobia, drug abuse stigma, so on and so forth...yeah, it was a hot mess.

Anyway, I'm trying to get positive talk from The Lord. I am now healthy, smart, capable of doing things...because of Christ. So, sometimes, I'll picture Christ on the Cross. Other times, I'll randomly see an image of a scarred hand on my mind's eye. See, the way I'm thinking is...self-esteem gets you nowehere, because its rooted in self. I mean, self-help and all that failed me miserably and made me so boring and vacuous people couldn't stand me. But Christ...I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me. In the flesh, I'm particularly wretched. With Christ living in me, I can actually be in society and have a future.

OK. So...yes...please pray about these voices. They're kind of obnoxious and there's not a whole lot I can do about them at this point. Thanks.

:-)
 
God declared Job righteous. Job's friends declared him self-righteous ( wrong - Job depended on God for righteousness). Chapter after chapter of friends raising their voices against Job.

Satan spoke poorley of Job (wrong). We will always hear we are wrong. We have our righteousness through Christ Jesus, and not works of the flesh. Every time you hear the voices redouble study in: we are righteous through the work of Jesus.

Is life easy? No. We are, however the glorious body of Christ (thanks reba). Give the salvation testimony again. It is about Jesus not us.

eddif
 
Prayers That Rout Demons (Excellent) Prayers start at 21:50
Let it play 24/7 in your home - touch and agree in Jesus name.
 
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I praise God for you CE, in that He's allowing you to recognize where the voices are, and with that I've seen others overcome a great deal of their anxiety. Of course an ever increasing or change of medication can now be dispensed until you can live with it. That muffled voices your counselor inquired of is a clue they can work with, at least I hope it is, and then applied until you reach a livable absence of voices, and yet not being sedated to a nonfunctional state.
Do you even fathom the enormity of this in that you can now know that everyone is not against you, and your healing is underway. You may even come to know that there have been some actually praying for you that you previously thought were talking bad about you.
Your counselor suggested getting out more, and to me that's a good idea too. Are you still attending that mega church? I would certainly expect that they have many programs you could look into that would help in your re-socialization. Above all think on what AirDancer suggested in the #2 post above. Contact with our Lord in all instances of attack is a great source of armor against our enemy.
Blessings in Christ Jesus my friend. :wave2
 
Thanks, everyone.

The voices wax and wane in intensity. Sometimes, its not so terrible. Other times, its hard to do much of anything. I've been praying for God's help with all this. I dunno...on the one hand, it would seem that mental illness would be the easiest thing to cure/fix. Its severe emotional distress and problems that kind of take over one's life. Nobody ever died from Schizophrenia or Bipolar. On the other hand...sometimes, I think I've gotten so used to the voices that I may somehow be engaging them. I mean, I'm not happy about what they say about me, but the way they loop and loop in my mind makes me wonder if I'm feeding into it somehow, through thoughts or sins or...you get the picture.

...a spirit not of timidity, but of a sound mind. Amen. I've been focusing on that lately and it helps a lot. Doing online college helps...I mean, sometimes its hard, because I'm hearing voies and I have to take quizzes and write papers, but...beats the alternative, being alone all the time doing not much of anything and being haunted by voices. At least I get some intellectual stimulation and maybe, just maybe, I'll be able to use that degree.

Its rough, too, to realize...yes, I am in fact hallucinating. Don't get me wrong; the neighbors give me a hard time, which probably feeds into all of this. Take up your plow and don't look back...I reflect and ruminate upon the past too much.

Anyway...I'm just trying to move forward. I did well on a quiz last night. The written part hasn't been graded, but I only missed 1 question on the multiple choice section, so that's good. Progress, progress, progress...

Thanks again.
 
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Have you ever heard some older people going through a market talking out loud? Many think they are talking to themselves, but in reality they are thinking out loud. I.e., Mildred, should I buy more bread; what about beans and more Gas-X?

What? You’re not guilty huh? Have you ever played an intense video game, are just about to win, and Diablo with one hit blows you out of the water? Oh my! @#$&*%, throw down the controller, and swear off the game? I would say you’re talking to you again.

A problem common to someone alone is to talk things out, and in your case it may be unnecessary guilt, unforgiveness, and any manner of obstacles to a clear mind. You need to be free from thought becoming verbal, and I can only suggest prayer, and reading scripture as you think on things above when you find you doing that.
 
As usual, you're right. "Mentally ill" people need Scripture and "the renewal of your mind" just as much, if not more, than you're mentally stable Christians.
 
CE, if you believe then live on that belief, live the holy life all Christians are called to live in Romans 12:1, the life separated to God, a peculiar people. And God has proven over and over that when we are faithful to believe, He is faithful to respond.

I will never pull the standard ?Christian? Punch Line on you because I know the beginning of standing on God's word, feels like standing on shaky ground. It scared the living snot out of me when I began.

I had convinced, quite, a number that I had Christ-like Faith in the Word of God, I had even convinced myself. But, until I took the leap of faith, and relied, fully, on God, I had no idea the power wielded by our God.

Remember, tell them, "Get the behind me, Satan," and mean it.
 
thanks, Bill.

Part of the issue...my people hadn't forgiven me until recently. There's something of a icy gap still between me and mama, but there's a lot going on there in addition to my own misdeeds. My dad and I have a genuine warmth there in our budding relationship, which is amazing. But anyway...I think that when I was estranged from them and living as an unforgiven offspring, it was that much harder to stand on the forgiveness bought for me at Calvary. Not that my parents didn't have reason to be angry with me, because they did, but...yeah, now that I think about it, that made life really difficult.

The other part of the problem is, honestly, the shrinks. My former shrinks, from back in the day, are always trying to "keep me in line" and such. Its ridiculous, and its probably just an extreme example of what most "mental patients" go through. Anyway, the whole "you're incurably narcissistic and brain damaged and..." on and on, its in my brain. Of course, I'm not narcissistic, not now, and as for brain damage...I mean, I'm smart enough for online college and such, so either I've got some new brain cells or I just don't need brain cells, lol.

Anyway...yeah. Time to have faith. This reminds me...I just read a lil bit of CS Lewis for a class. 2 kinds of faith. 1--faith enough to hold onto the truth, regardless of your mood. 2--faith enough to say to God 'I can't do this" after your efforts fail. I think I'm on #2.
 
thanks, Bill.

Part of the issue...my people hadn't forgiven me until recently. There's something of a icy gap still between me and mama, but there's a lot going on there in addition to my own misdeeds. My dad and I have a genuine warmth there in our budding relationship, which is amazing. But anyway...I think that when I was estranged from them and living as an unforgiven offspring, it was that much harder to stand on the forgiveness bought for me at Calvary. Not that my parents didn't have reason to be angry with me, because they did, but...yeah, now that I think about it, that made life really difficult.

The other part of the problem is, honestly, the shrinks. My former shrinks, from back in the day, are always trying to "keep me in line" and such. Its ridiculous, and its probably just an extreme example of what most "mental patients" go through. Anyway, the whole "you're incurably narcissistic and brain damaged and..." on and on, its in my brain. Of course, I'm not narcissistic, not now, and as for brain damage...I mean, I'm smart enough for online college and such, so either I've got some new brain cells or I just don't need brain cells, lol.

Anyway...yeah. Time to have faith. This reminds me...I just read a lil bit of CS Lewis for a class. 2 kinds of faith. 1--faith enough to hold onto the truth, regardless of your mood. 2--faith enough to say to God 'I can't do this" after your efforts fail. I think I'm on #2.
Okay but I'm praying for God to move you into, what< a first class state of faith. I'm working on my position to be in the Bride rather than the Guests (Matthew 22:1-14.) It will be neat if you are in Heaven, also, but, imagine both of us nuts were members of the Bride of Christ.
 
I keep hearing voices. Lately, they've been saying I have a "probation violation." My counselor says I have obsessive tendencies and the voices I hear reflect what's going on in my life. UGH!
 
The evil one sends those with misinformation to try and get us off track. Lies are told about us. The book of Job is a good study about this (I think I have mentioned this before).
II Corinthians 10:5
Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;

We are for you.

eddif
 
the voices are rough. I don't know what to do. I was about to go outside for a cigarette and I thought I heard a deep, male voice talking about a "probation violation." I'd know if I had a probation violation, wouldn't I? Ugh. This is not fun.
 
I Corinthians 10:13
There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.

The voice of condemnation is common to mankind (that is what this scripture is saying).

We can escape the voice / voices of satan / those who are under his control.

God makes a way of escape. He works in us to will and do of His good pleasure. Through Christ Jesus (not I but Christ that worketh in us).

Temptation will not come beyond what we are able to handle.

Our senses have to be trained. The Holy Spirit is the master trainer.

Hang in there.

eddif
 
II Corinthians 4:6
For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, togive the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.
7 But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.
8 We are troubled on every side, yet not distressed; we are perplexed, but not in despair;
9 Persecuted, but not forsaken; cast down, but not destroyed;
10 Always bearing about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our body.
11 Always bearing about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our body.
12 So then death worketh in us, but life in you.
And more ......

You die that your testimony / writing might benefit others. We really have to die to self. No fun (in one sense), but the greater one is at work.

eddif
 
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