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Charismatic Bible Studies - 1 Peter 3:18-22

If you are a Christian you are fit to be in the army of God because there are many, many positions to fill for instance are you a prayer warrior or a teacher or a minister , do you visit the sick and those unable to care for themselves. You do not have to be on the front lines or in the trenches to be in God's Army.

Thanks for the reply, Hawk.

Now I understand what you are saying here, but read through this first. I had posted it earlier in discussing some things with Randy. The army I am referring to is the one described in the first section of this vision here. I will see if I can't find the additional quotes that said almost none of us are actually fit for what is coming just yet, but now, that's a fairly strong rebuke that not everyone would be ready to receive. It's a "let him who has ears to hear what the Spirit is saying to the churches" kinda thing.

I'll post the initial link and then see if I can add to it, and then come back and address your other responses:
 
If you are a Christian you are fit to be in the army of God because there are many, many positions to fill for instance are you a prayer warrior or a teacher or a minister, do you visit the sick and those unable to care for themselves. You do not have to be on the front lines or in the trenches to be in God's Army.

Ok, just added the second part where he specifically talks about the state of the army as it exists today. In a sense you could say we are all a part of it now, but what sort of army is it? Is it the true army of God described in the book of Joel yet, or has that not truly taken shape yet.

I suppose that would be another question to pose for people, but I hadn't posted that material until now. But if I had to answer it myself, I would say no, we are still largely in the condition of the third army. I think some are being prepared to be chosen for the real thing that is coming, and I'm hoping to be one of them, but I don't think the day is here yet. I think it is drawing closer, but the power to heal entire hospitals through the laying on of hands, or other things the army is prophesied to do... I just don't think it has been formed yet. I think that is part of our job on forums like this is to help train people to potentially become soldiers in that greater army when the time comes.

Anyway, added a second passage just now:
 
Be a happy warrior in God's army , people seeing your example is what will get the people of the world to want to be enlisted.

I love this answer. I was thinking about this just this evening as a matter of fact. Spiritual attacks may bring us down, but they don't keep us down forever, and it's important lesson in the spiritual war. When the Spirit is in manifestation, the fruit will be Love, Power and a Sound Mind. :thumbsup2 This is why the command in scripture was to think on what was positive, and of a good report, and not to let the things the enemy might be doing cause us to grieve or turn to bitterness. In the end, we win, LoL, and there's nothing the enemy can do about it : )
 
I prayed a prayer to be enjoined to the battle and that is where I am now. The greater measure of the Holy Spirit poured upon me has been beyond anything I would have imagined, God has blessed me so much.

Glorious! I believe that concerning you. I have a strengthening that is coming as well. One can never be satisfied in the things of God, for as the scripture says, we increase from glory to glory.

I liked your answers, and thank you very much for sharing. :thumbsup
 
Well, you're right to ask because it's arguable and more like speculation on my part. Sadly, it's my style to act like I speak with authority even when I'm guessing! ;)

So there are several reasons--some just pure logic.

1) God is unlikely to fail to win at least half of what He created for His glory. So at a minimum I would guess God will save at least half of mankind, or perhaps just 1/3 of humanity, if He is replacing the 1/3 of angels he lost to Satan. No promises!

Matt 25.31 “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne. 32 All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.

Gen 1.28 God blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it.

Isa 55.11 so is my word that goes out from my mouth: It will not return to me empty, but will accomplish what I desire and achieve the purpose for which I sent it.


2) Israel was kept even when a very small minority was faithful to God. For example, Elijah thought he and only about 7000 men were faithful to God in his time. 1 Kings 19.18. However, instead of just saving 7000 men God continued to reach out to the whole nation.

Rom 11.25 I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers and sisters, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in, 26 and in this way all Israel will be saved.

That means not that every Jew or citizen of Israel will be saved, but that the political salvation of Israel will present a whole nation filled with saved individuals, even if not all of them will be saved.

3) There are numerous examples in the Scriptures of God using a believer even after they had walked away, so to speak. Moses, Samson, Peter--all Christians have issues at times. If they can return, then many can be forgiven and at least given a 2nd chance, though they may continue to be as weak as when God initially forgave them. If He forgave them once He will forgive them again. If He ignored their failiure the 1st time, He will ignore their failure the 2nd time.

4) Paul said that Christians can produce different kinds of works, some that are to be destroyed, and some that will resound to God's glory.

1 Corinthians 3:12-13 If anyone builds on this foundation using gold, silver, costly stones, wood, hay or straw, their work will be shown for what it is, because the Day will bring it to light. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test the quality of each person’s work.

1 John 2.28 And now, dear children, continue in him, so that when he appears we may be confident and unashamed before him at his coming.


This could mean that some Christians will go to heaven with an immediate sense of shame, though they will be forgiven for their failures. It's debatable.

Ultimately, my purpose in even suggesting this is to display my sense of God's grace, that He never tires in forgiving--70 x 7. And personally, I've known friends who could not overcome their sins and yet believed in God and called upon Him for mercy.

I had an alcoholic friend who had accepted Christ and occasionally tried to beat his habit. But he failed, gave up and probably died drunk and asleep in a house fire while he was on fire watch.

I had another friend who had terrible back pain and died apparently hanging himself on Halloween, whether by accident as a prank or by suicide. The guy managed our sound system for our church and was a good guy, and I believe he will be in heaven.

I believe we will all die with some stains on our record, and some stains will be terrible for some. But God's grace covers all sin when we call upon Him sincerely. And I believe God will save all who cast their trust in Him and believe in His word.

That's what I believe, and I'm sticking with it... :)
Thank you for sharing Randy :) i appreciate your outlook, and im very sorry to hear about your friends.
 
Thank you for sharing Randy :) i appreciate your outlook, and im very sorry to hear about your friends.
Life is indeed a heartbreak, but the joy that awaits us make it worthwhile for those of us still alive to give it our best shot, filled with love for the One who gave us his best.
 
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