China Virus

[Christ the King]

Trump lost the last election by 3 million votes, He is right to be worried.

And that was against Hilary.

But he won more electorates. The same ones who voted for Biden over Bernie.

And considering the dems labelled people who voted for Trump bigots, stupid, xenophobes ect it's unlikely they have won more voters.

Their more interested in gender neutral toilets and identity politics than Americas working class

 

[JohnDB]

But he won more electorates. The same ones who voted for Biden over Bernie.

And considering the dems labelled people who voted for Trump bigots, stupid, xenophobes ect it's unlikely they have won more voters.

Their more interested in gender neutral toilets and identity politics than Americas working class

Why are you interested in American politics?
You are living on the complete opposite side of the planet...southern hemisphere and all.

We don't have an opinion on austerity in NZ or Australia...or fishing rights or how native blacks are treated. And you probably wouldn't like our opinions about it...look at it as outsiders butting in where we shouldn't.

I don't even have opinions on Canadian or Mexican politics...and they are closer than you. Again...not my home and doesn't affect me.
Although other countries have issues with illegal immigration just like Americans do...but they don't make headlines like America does. Bolivians are constantly trying to sneak into Brazil...but we hear nothing about it.
Russians are trying to immigrate to former Soviet Block countries...now EU...but you don't hear about that either...even though they are treated poorly.

This is a Christian website, we are looking for ways to promote Christian ideals. Politics doesn't do that whatsoever. Christ is above politics.

Even though we come from different countries, backgrounds, and societal norms we are brothers in Christ. We pull together when the chips are down. And with this pandemic I'm thinking that the chips couldn't be more down right now.

 

[Christ the King]

Why are you interested in American politics?

Why not?

look at it as outsiders butting in where we shouldn't.

So people can't have opinions on another countries government...
That is just silly mate

Bolivians are constantly trying to sneak into Brazil...but we hear nothing about it.
Russians are trying to immigrate to former Soviet Block countries...now EU

Why are you so interested in Bolivian and Russian politics...
You butting in mate.
U should take your own advice and mind your own business...
Hehehe oh the hypocrisy

This is a Christian website, we are looking for ways to promote Christian ideals. Politics doesn't do that whatsoever

And there it is, again... The stern shake of the finger... The finger of condemnation
Have you shaken your judgmental finger at the other people who have brought up politics??? Perhaps to the people I was responding to???
Didn't think so

Given your record of being dishonest and making false accusations against me i don't expect you to find any logic here anyway. So on your bike pal

 

[jasonc]

Japan has some really nice a reliable cars.
You can import one. you have to pay tax and all that.

No,I can buy mine locally and still pay import fees.

 

[jasonc]

How many people in the USA still consider Walmart ESSENTIAL?

I,eschew Wal-Mart .I could use target ,publix

 

[JohnDB]

Why not?



So people can't have opinions on another countries government...
That is just silly mate



Why are you so interested in Bolivian and Russian politics...
You butting in mate.
U should take your own advice and mind your own business...
Hehehe oh the hypocrisy



And there it is, again... The stern shake of the finger... The finger of condemnation
Have you shaken your judgmental finger at the other people who have brought up politics??? Perhaps to the people I was responding to???
Didn't think so

Given your record of being dishonest and making false accusations against me i don't expect you to find any logic here anyway. So on your bike pal

Love it or leave it...this is the way this site operates. There's literally thousands that discuss politics and argue theologies...we don't. We talk about theologies...we don't argue about them.

 

[WIP]

I said that my recommendation isn't to solve our immediate problem of covid19 but for the future of the west.

Now I said
Bring industry and engineering back to the states
Bring manufacturing back to the west

Do u agree with that?

That would be a nice thing so how do you propose we make it happen?

 

[HeIsRisen2018]

Who was that? The doctor among the first to raise an alarm that was detained for one hour then went back to work only to catch the virus himself and die?

See post seventy-one.

Smile, the government loves you and wants to protect you, the government is there to help you. Lol. In the name of safety and security of course.

I trust the government to love and protect me as much as I trust Satan to. So meaning I put my faith and trust in the Lord,.. not the government.

 

[iLOVE]

See post seventy-one.









I trust the government to love and protect me as much as I trust Satan to. So meaning I put my faith and trust in the Lord,.. not the government.

Hallelujah! Praise God, Praise God!

This is the type of Faith Our Heavenly Father is looking for in these last days of the church age, which means that Bible prophecy concerning end-time events is about to happen. As it regards the work of God on this earth, every 2,000 years or every 1000 years something tremendous has taken place.

We live by what Jesus Christ did by Grace through Faith who loved us and gave Himself for us at the Cross of Calvary where the victory was won (Rom. 6:3-5, Philippians 1:21); His Obedience (Philippians 2:8, John 10:18), His Faith (Gal. 2:20-21), and His Love (Faith works by Love -Gal. 5:6). It is not our obedience, not our faith, and not our love, that we live by. Rom. 8:2, Gal. 2:18

In other words, place and maintain your Faith exclusively in Christ and His Finished Work at Calvary Cross where the victory was won and receive all the benefits of this resurrection life (the help of the Holy Spirit). Romans 8:2

 

[iLOVE]

If the calendars are right, the church is now 1,987 years old. The church began on the day of Pentecost, which was some 33 years after the birth of Christ. So, we deduct 33 years from 2020, which gives us the number of 1,987 as it regards the age of the modern church. In other words, we are living in the last days of the church age.

 

[iLOVE]

The bible is crystal clear in the last days things will get worst and not better!

 

[HeIsRisen2018]

The bible is crystal clear in the last days things will get worst and not better!

Correction, they will get worse before they get better.

 

[iLOVE]

Correction, they will get worse before they get better.

According to the bible the Earth will only get better at the Second coming of Christ; the Kingdom Age.

 

[HeIsRisen2018]

According to the bible the Earth will only get better at the Second coming of Christ; the Kingdom Age.

That's exactly what I meant.

 

[Bull of the Woods]

See post seventy-one.









I trust the government to love and protect me as much as I trust Satan to. So meaning I put my faith and trust in the Lord,.. not the government.

I knew the story. We have American doctors and other caregivers getting ill. It’s not necessarily a mysterious plot if it happens in China.

 

[HeIsRisen2018]

I knew the story. We have American doctors and other caregivers getting ill. It’s not necessarily a mysterious plot if it happens in China.

True. I just find it awfully fishy that the guy died after he opened his mouth about it.

 

[Bull of the Woods]

True. I just find it awfully fishy that the guy died after he opened his mouth about it.

I guess he could have died before?

 

[Christ the King]

That would be a nice thing so how do you propose we make it happen?

That's a decent question. I don't have the political knowledge to present a definitive answer, only suggestions.

If left to the consumer they will more often choose to buy the Chinese product over the home made one. Legislation needs to be introduced to encourage local manufacturing.

The first idea that comes to mind is simply banning cheap imported products.
Not all at once but gradually over time so that industry returns to where it originated, in the west. It would take time but supply, demand and wages would eventually level out to be fairer for the consumer.

One thing that riles me is the profit margin some companies get away with making.
If it costs a company $1 to manufacture a product how are they allowed to get away with selling it for $200, at a 20,000% profit margin, it's criminal, daylight robbery.

So why not put a cap on the allowable profit gain on products. Something that makes it fair for the consumer and doesn't discourage business.

We must not forget that China is a communist regime run by a dictatorship.
America has never been friendly with such regimes and never traded with communist in the past. Why start now.

 

[jasonc]

That's a decent question. I don't have the political knowledge to present a definitive answer, only suggestions.

If left to the consumer they will more often choose to buy the Chinese product over the home made one. Legislation needs to be introduced to encourage local manufacturing.

The first idea that comes to mind is simply banning cheap imported products.
Not all at once but gradually over time so that industry returns to where it originated, in the west. It would take time but supply, demand and wages would eventually level out to be fairer for the consumer.

One thing that riles me is the profit margin some companies get away with making.
If it costs a company $1 to manufacture a product how are they allowed to get away with selling it for $200, at a 20,000% profit margin, it's criminal, daylight robbery.

So why not put a cap on the allowable profit gain on products. Something that makes it fair for the consumer and doesn't discourage business.

We must not forget that China is a communist regime run by a dictatorship.
America has never been friendly with such regimes and never traded with communist in the past. Why start now.

We traded ,and open up diplomacy with China since Nixon.

We also traded with Russia since 91 ,or glasnost .normalized relations with Vietnam.India hardly a free nation,of course oil from opec.hardly free nations

 

[WIP]

The first idea that comes to mind is simply banning cheap imported products.
Not all at once but gradually over time so that industry returns to where it originated, in the west. It would take time but supply, demand and wages would eventually level out to be fairer for the consumer.

First problem is.....define cheap.
Second problem, what prevents foreign countries from responding in kind. Many of our industries are dependent on foreign markets. The imposed tariffs by president Trump were designed to level the playing field but as we saw, the foreign countries replied by imposing their own and shutting down orders.

One thing that riles me is the profit margin some companies get away with making.
If it costs a company $1 to manufacture a product how are they allowed to get away with selling it for $200, at a 20,000% profit margin, it's criminal, daylight robbery.

So why not put a cap on the allowable profit gain on products. Something that makes it fair for the consumer and doesn't discourage business.

Would you also then support a cap on earnings? Be careful how you answer that.

We must not forget that China is a communist regime run by a dictatorship.
America has never been friendly with such regimes and never traded with communist in the past. Why start now.

China is a huge trade market for us. Approximately 2.6 million US jobs are directly or indirectly supported by trade with China alone. If we stop trading with every dictatorship and communist country in the world, our economy would likely collapse.