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Christians and politics

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Why do you think Christians tend to be so conservative, as a whole? I'm not against it. I mean, OK, I was raised progressive/liberal/borderline Marxist, so its strange to me, lol...

...but that's not the point. Do you think its Biblical, or do you think the Christian subculture somehow lends itself well to conservatism?
 
Why do you think Christians tend to be so conservative, as a whole? I'm not against it. I mean, OK, I was raised progressive/liberal/borderline Marxist, so its strange to me, lol...

...but that's not the point. Do you think its Biblical, or do you think the Christian subculture somehow lends itself well to conservatism?
I guess it depends on what parts of conservatism your thinking of. I think a lot of Christians are conservative for the fact that they stand against abortion. That's the biggest one for me. I think the politics of it can be made into to big of a deal sometimes and can be divisive. There are Christians on both sides each having their own reasons.
 
It really comes down to what it means to be conservative. For many it means to adhere to traditional judeo-Christian values. One of which jeff77 mentioned, others include biblical views on homosexuality, pornography, divorce, having children out of wedlock, contraception, etc...

Many feel that Christians have no place in politics, but I would guess that most of those people are liberals who don't want to be told what they can and can not do. Personally, I feel Christians play a huge role in politics, and those who have a gift for it have a duty to serve in public office so we do not lose many of our religious freedoms.
 
OK...I just wondered. Because it seems like we (Christians) get suckered into voting against our economic/financial best interests with social issues. I mean, abortion? It'll happen, legal or not. Just keep it legal and vote for somebody who might actually help your bottom line, you know?
 
When it comes to my faith, I sold out to God making me a conservative everywhere with anything and it is essential to add, within the Christian perspective. Conservative, believe it or not is a subjective term. Muslim Jihadists are considered conservative in their own realm.

As far as political matters are concerned, I am an independent voter in the sense that if a like minded Democrat were to run against a left leaning Republican, I would vote for the Democrat. In fact, I voted for Jimmy Carter but I have repented of that and I'm sure God has forgiven me. ;-)

And this matter of how a Christian or even how a Jewish Believer should vote, they must vote to please their Master. Right there is the problem, disobedient but claiming the name of Jesus or, in the case of Judaism, God and yet not knowing, exactly, what the Word of God says or not obeying the principals and in some cases the exact words preserved for our direction.
 
OK...I just wondered. Because it seems like we (Christians) get suckered into voting against our economic/financial best interests with social issues. I mean, abortion? It'll happen, legal or not. Just keep it legal and vote for somebody who might actually help your bottom line, you know?
But, if we do that we violate the clear voice of God. As a Child of the Father and the Bond Servant of "The" Son of God, I can not do that. I will not displease God.
 
I was raised neo-conservative. It seems to be widespread in the U.S. right wing, to the point where Republicans are seen as "the religious right".
I guess it comes from Christians feeling that Biblical principles belong in government.

My political views have changed from what I grew up with. I'm socially liberal. I feel that since our culture is made up of people of various religions (or lack thereof), and our nation was supposed to be based on freedom of religion, that the laws ought not to be based on Christianity. Though I hold and advocate traditional values, when it comes to the government I believe it's role is to protect the rights of it's citizens and no more. And each man has the right to do anything with his life, except infringe on the rights of others. So I'm for legalizing some things that I personally don't approve of.
I'm fiscally conservative, meaning that I want the government out of business and the market as much as possible.
In other words, I'm a libertarian.
 
I guess I would probably call myself a libertarian, but not in the strictest sense of the word.

Let me throw this question out there: Do you think that this country would be better off if we based our laws, and I mean all of them, on biblical principles?
 
OK...I just wondered. Because it seems like we (Christians) get suckered into voting against our economic/financial best interests with social issues. I mean, abortion? It'll happen, legal or not. Just keep it legal and vote for somebody who might actually help your bottom line, you know?
Do you think the life of a child has less meaning to Jesus then a dollar?
 
I guess I would probably call myself a libertarian, but not in the strictest sense of the word.

Let me throw this question out there: Do you think that this country would be better off if we based our laws, and I mean all of them, on biblical principles?
Absolutely but that will never pass muster, the Christians and the Deists formed this nation and once were the majority but that is not true for at least the past 150 years.
 
THe church should be taking care widows and orphans not the government ... look around the government cant d o it well.
 
Absolutely but that will never pass muster, the Christians and the Deists formed this nation and once were the majority but that is not true for at least the past 150 years.
Yet, Christians in government should be working toward instituting laws that are based on biblical principles. Instead of the many ungodly ones we have right now (i.e., Obamacare).
 
It really comes down to what it means to be conservative. For many it means to adhere to traditional judeo-Christian values. One of which jeff77 mentioned, others include biblical views on homosexuality, pornography, divorce, having children out of wedlock, contraception, etc...

Many feel that Christians have no place in politics, but I would guess that most of those people are liberals who don't want to be told what they can and can not do. Personally, I feel Christians play a huge role in politics, and those who have a gift for it have a duty to serve in public office so we do not lose many of our religious freedoms.
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Way too many Christians after WWII thought they should set back and wait for rapture... I remember my parents discussing higher education for my brothers talking about how it would not be necessary because...( This is not to derail the thread) Israel had become a state so rapture was to be around the corner... Never mind education for us girls we were to get married if the Lord tarried.
One would think the lessons of world around the time of WWII would have spurred them to be SURE and be involved ...
 
Yet, Christians in government should be working toward instituting laws that are based on biblical principles. Instead of the many ungodly ones we have right now (i.e., Obamacare).
This misdirection is the result of ignoring a discerning attitude, and discernment is a requirement for the Christian Life. If we look up discernment and judgment, they look very much alike because they are. The ungodly outside and inside the Church making portions of the Church to become a church have drawn Matthew 7:1 out of it's context and have shut the mouths of to many Believers because they are not grounded in the Word of our God.

As I demonstrated in my first response to the question, the title, Conservative, is a subjective title and this truth results in conservatives fighting within themselves, making them of no effect what-so-ever. If the people of God, those that believe and then act on their faith, would stop the stupid in fighting and join together on the basics they all have in common, the Christians would control most of the World. But, within the Conservative and the Conservative Christian Movement there is the Liberal Christian (Oxymoron) and this results in confusion. There are these Liberal Christians in every Church today and they are present on every Christian Forum I have ever been a member of.

One forum i was a resident of for several years, based out of Canada, recently had a homosexual Chaplin, out of San Francisco, join the forum and become a staff member, resulting in me, after better than five years of membership, being permenantly banned because of my stance, based on biblical instruction against all sin, including homosexuality. The residing Admin, a Canadian Pastor, instructed me that Homosexuality was an acceptable lifestyle that falls within the pail of Christianity and, therefore, not repentable. That would make it fall within the Liberal Pail of Conservatism.

If the Christian movement is to survive, the followers, not just the believers, of Christ are to prevail, the use of the title, Conservative, must become definitive and lose all of the liberal subjective use. I know Conservative Republicans that will not vote for a more conservative Democrat because he or she is not a Republican. This is not only foolish, it is ungod like. We either serve the Master or we should go get drunk Saturday night and sleep with the World until we go to work on Monday. It makes no sense to pretend to follow the God that created us and to separate our political affairs into our back pockets, away from God's eyes and control... He sees what we do in secret.
 
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Way too many Christians after WWII thought they should set back and wait for rapture... I remember my parents discussing higher education for my brothers talking about how it would not be necessary because...( This is not to derail the thread) Israel had become a state so rapture was to be around the corner... Never mind education for us girls we were to get married if the Lord tarried.
One would think the lessons of world around the time of WWII would have spurred them to be SURE and be involved ...
This may be delving into a topic that might be better in another section of the forum, but I at least wanted to respond. My father-in-law also had this mentality but much later. Back in the 90's he quit his job and cashed out his retirement from both his current job and the military (Navy), because he expected the end to come any day. Well, the result of this was that they ended up losing their house and had to move into a 2 bedroom apartment.

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I recently watched a political panel take a question from muslim woman asking why we continue to demonize all of islam because of a militant minority. The response was that the silent majority was irrelevant, as they do nothing to quell the actions of that minority.

For us, as Christians, to have the rest of the country take notice is to actually convert the silent majority into the active majority. Otherwise the liberals will continue to erode our values to the point where we have absolutely no sense of ourselves.
 
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I was raised neo-conservative. It seems to be widespread in the U.S. right wing, to the point where Republicans are seen as "the religious right".
I guess it comes from Christians feeling that Biblical principles belong in government.

My political views have changed from what I grew up with. I'm socially liberal. I feel that since our culture is made up of people of various religions (or lack thereof), and our nation was supposed to be based on freedom of religion, that the laws ought not to be based on Christianity. Though I hold and advocate traditional values, when it comes to the government I believe it's role is to protect the rights of it's citizens and no more. And each man has the right to do anything with his life, except infringe on the rights of others. So I'm for legalizing some things that I personally don't approve of.
I'm fiscally conservative, meaning that I want the government out of business and the market as much as possible.
In other words, I'm a libertarian.

I also hold to many libertarian views and vote as an independent.
Someone asked me not so long ago if I am a Reconstructist and my response was absolutely not. But in a way I am. I don't believe in forcing people to live Godly lives by enforcing or making criminal laws that a leap into their private lives. What I have clearly seen is when we do that people rebel against tyranny.
But I am in the way that I believe in changing hearts and minds. When we do this it is their choice made freely and they become truly commented to that way of life and teach it to future generations.
 
This may be delving into a topic that might be better in another section of the forum, but I at least wanted to respond. My father-in-law also had this mentality but much later. Back in the 90's he quit his job and cashed out his retirement from both his current job and the military (Navy), because he expected the end to come any day. Well, the result of this was that they ended up losing their house and had to move into a 2 bedroom apartment.

[Back to topic]

I recently watched a political panel take a question from muslim woman asking why we continue to demonize all of islam because of a militant minority. The response was that the silent majority was irrelevant, as they do nothing to quell the actions of that minority.

For us, as Christians, to have the rest of the country take notice is to actually convert the silent majority into the active majority. Otherwise the liberals will continue to erode our values to the point where we have absolutely no sense of ourselves.

No government or liberal can erode OUR values. We are God's people and He is in control.
Should we fight for our rights to be recognized and be protected by law, I believe we should. If that means being involved in politics so be it.
I see our constitution is written to protect life and property and we need to be willing to fight for that. That includes the freedom to worship and live in whatever religion we so choose. I respect other people's right to do that whether I agree with them or not. Because if I don't I am as much of a hypocrite as they are and I will be fighting against my own rights to live and worship as I choose.
Many in the secular world see Christians a hypocrites that one minute are proclaiming their rights and the next minute wanting to take away someone else's rights. By doing that we play right into the extreme liberals hand. They use it very well against us and it's our own doing.
I say fight to keep our rights and protect the life and property of all.
Proclaim the Gospel to the secular world. It is the Gospel that truly changes people not laws.
 
I think a conservative christian is someone that tries to live their life for Jesus as best as possible.
It has nothing to do with politics.
American conservatism has taken on a meaning all of its' own.
It generally values order and security by a strong police force and a strong military.
These issues cannot be backed up in the New Testament.
 
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