iLOVE
Member
- Oct 4, 2012
- 4,708
- 944
The scripture says, "Even if Noah, Daniel, and Job were there, their righteousness would save no one but themselves, says the Sovereign LORD." Ezekiel 14:14 NLT
-
-
-
-
Desire to be a vessel of honor unto the Lord Jesus Christ?
Join Hidden in Him and For His Glory for discussions on how
https://christianforums.net/threads/become-a-vessel-of-honor-part-2.112306/
church people
- Thread starter Christ_empowered
- Start date
iLOVE
Member
- Oct 4, 2012
- 4,708
- 944
As a Christian we are in a process of sanctification when the grace of God brings about the transformation of life and you and I are now being saved. All Christians must curve their appetite and stop being tempted and eating from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil where Satan says, "Has God indeed said."
The Apostle Paul says, "Now I say that the heir, as long as he is a child, does not differ at all from a slave, though he is master of all, 2 but is under guardians and stewards until the time appointed by the father." Galatians 4:1-2 NKJV - In others words Christians are in training.
This is why sometimes God allows what He hates to accomplish what He loves. And you will say what Jesus said, "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?"
The Apostle Paul says, "Now I say that the heir, as long as he is a child, does not differ at all from a slave, though he is master of all, 2 but is under guardians and stewards until the time appointed by the father." Galatians 4:1-2 NKJV - In others words Christians are in training.
This is why sometimes God allows what He hates to accomplish what He loves. And you will say what Jesus said, "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?"
Last edited:
Christ_empowered
Member
- Oct 23, 2010
- 14,518
- 10,996
- Thread starter
- #23
OK. So...I was thinking...reading over a little magazine I got from Liberty (did I tell you they also sent me a B-day card? Great people)...and it got my mind to thinking...
...I think "tolerant" people, "open-minded" people, etc., tend to be really, really turned against old school Christianity and Christians. Like, I'm sure they're all for Episcopalian Christianity as its emerging, liberal PCUSA Christianity, etc., but more traditional, doctrinally sound Christianity, complete with an extensive lists of "thou shalt NOTs,"...not so much...
...but then the Born Again Christians seem willing to work with people as long as you recognize certain things as sin and promise to work on them. For instance: I was g-a-y. I'm spelling it out because, wow, I flamed. I needed a fire extinguisher. But once I came to Christ and I was willing to say "OK, sodomy is not OK. Effeminacy/gender distortion...not OK..." and agree with some other fairly basic Biblical principles, many Born Again Christians were fine with me. They won't show "tolerance" to willful, unrepentant ongoing serious sin, especially if you're a Christian, but if you're willing to acknowledge your sins and move forward...
...then OK.
The "tolerant" people, on the other hand, don't believe in redemption. They don't believe in transformation. They don't believe because secular culture, which is increasingly anti-Christian, at the very least "post-Christian," doesn't offer that.
And yet...
...I asked this question because it does seem that The Bible can be used to condemn just as surely as it can be used (appropriately) to correct. And I don't like that. To be fair, self-righteous people are a dime a dozen, and if they weren't using the Bible to condemn people, they'd be using something else, lol....
...still, it bothers me.
...I think "tolerant" people, "open-minded" people, etc., tend to be really, really turned against old school Christianity and Christians. Like, I'm sure they're all for Episcopalian Christianity as its emerging, liberal PCUSA Christianity, etc., but more traditional, doctrinally sound Christianity, complete with an extensive lists of "thou shalt NOTs,"...not so much...
...but then the Born Again Christians seem willing to work with people as long as you recognize certain things as sin and promise to work on them. For instance: I was g-a-y. I'm spelling it out because, wow, I flamed. I needed a fire extinguisher. But once I came to Christ and I was willing to say "OK, sodomy is not OK. Effeminacy/gender distortion...not OK..." and agree with some other fairly basic Biblical principles, many Born Again Christians were fine with me. They won't show "tolerance" to willful, unrepentant ongoing serious sin, especially if you're a Christian, but if you're willing to acknowledge your sins and move forward...
...then OK.
The "tolerant" people, on the other hand, don't believe in redemption. They don't believe in transformation. They don't believe because secular culture, which is increasingly anti-Christian, at the very least "post-Christian," doesn't offer that.
And yet...
...I asked this question because it does seem that The Bible can be used to condemn just as surely as it can be used (appropriately) to correct. And I don't like that. To be fair, self-righteous people are a dime a dozen, and if they weren't using the Bible to condemn people, they'd be using something else, lol....
...still, it bothers me.
- Nov 23, 2012
- 15,017
- 4,990
It probably always will bother you.
Just keep going forward, as you are now, don't look back.
God is leading you to great things!
To say to someone that behaviour will send you to hell .. is condemnation
To say... Jesus died for you HE opened the door the ever lasting life giving us an escape from hell ,, He asks for repentance of sin and sin includes _____ Will you open your heart to HIm?
is not condemning....
IF some kept telling me you are going to hell you are going to hell yo are goin..... I would turn and yup
To say... Jesus died for you HE opened the door the ever lasting life giving us an escape from hell ,, He asks for repentance of sin and sin includes _____ Will you open your heart to HIm?
is not condemning....
IF some kept telling me you are going to hell you are going to hell yo are goin..... I would turn and yup
Similar threads
