Cinco de "Mayo"

[Navigator]

Happy Cinco de Mayo everyone! I just bought myself a five pack of mayonnaise and I'm ready to get the party started!

*Ignore the url name underneath the pic hehe

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But seriously...I know this isn't the greatest of "holidays" but hope everyone has a happy May 5th regardless.

 

[jasoncran]

i want to celebrate seis de mayo and siete de mayo..

 

[elijah23]

I don't like mayonnaise.

 

[farouk]

Happy Cinco de Mayo everyone! I just bought myself a five pack of mayonnaise and I'm ready to get the party started!

*Ignore the url name underneath the pic hehe

:

But seriously...I know this isn't the greatest of "holidays" but hope everyone has a happy May 5th regardless.

N:

You too.

 

[Pizzaguy]

Most people don't know that in 1912, Hellmann's mayonnaise was manufactured in England. In fact, the Titanic was carrying 12,000 jars of the condiment scheduled for delivery in Vera Cruz, Mexico, which was to have been the next port of call for the great ship after its stop in New York. This would have been the largest single shipment of mayonnaise ever delivered to Mexico. But as we know, the great ship did not make it to New York. The ship hit an iceberg and sank, and the cargo was lost forever. The people of Mexico, who were crazy about mayonnaise, and were eagerly awaiting its delivery, were disconsolate at the loss. Their anguish was so great that they declared a National Day of Mourning, which they still observe to this day. The National Day of Mourning occurs each year on May 5th and is known, of course, as Sinko de Mayo

 

[farouk]

Mayo sunko.

 

[Pard]

I don't like mayonnaise.

Don't tell me you like that "Miracle Whip" garbage! Please say it ain't so, I thought to well of you and I'd hate to have to rethink my opinion of you



I could got for a mayo sandwich right now...

 

[westtexas]

Most people don't know that in 1912, Hellmann's mayonnaise was manufactured in England. In fact, the Titanic was carrying 12,000 jars of the condiment scheduled for delivery in Vera Cruz, Mexico, which was to have been the next port of call for the great ship after its stop in New York. This would have been the largest single shipment of mayonnaise ever delivered to Mexico. But as we know, the great ship did not make it to New York. The ship hit an iceberg and sank, and the cargo was lost forever. The people of Mexico, who were crazy about mayonnaise, and were eagerly awaiting its delivery, were disconsolate at the loss. Their anguish was so great that they declared a National Day of Mourning, which they still observe to this day. The National Day of Mourning occurs each year on May 5th and is known, of course, as Sinko de Mayo

:toofunny

 

[Jesusfreak97]

Happy Cinco de Mayo everyone! I just bought myself a five pack of mayonnaise and I'm ready to get the party started!

*Ignore the url name underneath the pic hehe

:

But seriously...I know this isn't the greatest of "holidays" but hope everyone has a happy May 5th regardless.

My spanish teacher would have your head. lol she's awsome!:tongue2<Y class=inlineimg title="" smilieid="16" alt="" border="0" src="images/smilies/icon_lol.gif" <img head! your have would teacher spanish />

 

[Mike]

Most people don't know that in 1912, Hellmann's mayonnaise was manufactured in England. In fact, the Titanic was carrying 12,000 jars of the condiment scheduled for delivery in Vera Cruz, Mexico, which was to have been the next port of call for the great ship after its stop in New York. This would have been the largest single shipment of mayonnaise ever delivered to Mexico. But as we know, the great ship did not make it to New York. The ship hit an iceberg and sank, and the cargo was lost forever. The people of Mexico, who were crazy about mayonnaise, and were eagerly awaiting its delivery, were disconsolate at the loss. Their anguish was so great that they declared a National Day of Mourning, which they still observe to this day. The National Day of Mourning occurs each year on May 5th and is known, of course, as Sinko de Mayo

Brilliant!!! Simply, brilliant!!! :toofunny

Who sinko de mayo? Yo sinko de mayo!! :rolling

 

[Navigator]

Most people don't know that in 1912, Hellmann's mayonnaise was manufactured in England. In fact, the Titanic was carrying 12,000 jars of the condiment scheduled for delivery in Vera Cruz, Mexico, which was to have been the next port of call for the great ship after its stop in New York. This would have been the largest single shipment of mayonnaise ever delivered to Mexico. But as we know, the great ship did not make it to New York. The ship hit an iceberg and sank, and the cargo was lost forever. The people of Mexico, who were crazy about mayonnaise, and were eagerly awaiting its delivery, were disconsolate at the loss. Their anguish was so great that they declared a National Day of Mourning, which they still observe to this day. The National Day of Mourning occurs each year on May 5th and is known, of course, as Sinko de Mayo

That's great!

 

[tessiewebb]

Brilliant!!! Simply, brilliant!!! :toofunny Who sinko de mayo? Yo sinko de mayo!! :rolling

Yeah, hilarious! Good thing this was not about a Muslim holiday or the Islamofools would have been all over it. Wow, maybe we should start a thread on Ram a Dan? Or even better, one on the 4th of Julie? Guess we need someone it's still safe to have a good laugh over, huh?

However here are the facts for you unversed ones:

Events leading to Cinco de Mayo

Cinco de Mayo has its roots in the French occupation of Mexico, which took place in the aftermath of the Mexican-American War of 1846-48, the Mexican Civil War of 1858, and the 1860 Reform Wars. These wars left the Mexican Treasury in ruins and nearly bankrupt. On July 17, 1861, Mexican President Benito Juárez issued a moratorium in which all foreign debt payments would be suspended for two years.<sup id="cite_ref-clnet_12-0" class="reference">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinco_de_Mayo#cite_note-clnet-12</sup><sup id="cite_ref-inside-mexico_13-0" class="reference">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinco_de_Mayo#cite_note-inside-mexico-13</sup> In response, France, Britain, and Spain sent naval forces to Veracruz to demand reimbursement. Britain and Spain negotiated with Mexico and withdrew, but France, at the time ruled by Napoleon III, decided to use the opportunity to establish a Latin empire in Mexico that would favor French interests, the Second Mexican Empire.
The French invasion

Late in 1861, a well-armed French fleet stormed Veracruz, landing a large French force and driving President Juárez and his government into retreat.<sup id="cite_ref-14" class="reference">[15]</sup> Moving on from Veracruz towards Mexico City, the French army encountered heavy resistance from the Mexicans near Puebla, at the Mexican forts of Loreto and Guadalupe.<sup id="cite_ref-mexonline.com_15-0" class="reference">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinco_de_Mayo#cite_note-mexonline.com-15</sup> The 8,000-strong French army attacked the much more poorly equipped Mexican army of 4,000. Yet, on May 5, 1862,<sup id="cite_ref-16" class="reference">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinco_de_Mayo#cite_note-16</sup> the Mexicans managed to decisively crush the French army, one which, according to an article in Philadelphia's The Bulletin daily newspaper, was the best army of the time.<sup id="cite_ref-17" class="reference">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinco_de_Mayo#cite_note-17</sup>
The Mexican victory

The victory represented a significant morale boost to the Mexican army and the Mexican people at large. In the description of The History Channel, "Although not a major strategic win in the overall war against the French, Zaragoza's success at Puebla represented a great symbolic victory for the Mexican government and bolstered the resistance movement."<sup id="cite_ref-18" class="reference">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinco_de_Mayo#cite_note-18</sup>The description of Time magazine was: "The Puebla victory came to symbolize unity and pride for what seemed like a Mexican David defeating a French Goliath."<sup id="cite_ref-time.com_19-0" class="reference">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinco_de_Mayo#cite_note-time.com-19</sup> It helped establish a much-needed sense of national unity and patriotism.<sup id="cite_ref-mexonline.com_15-1" class="reference">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinco_de_Mayo#cite_note-mexonline.com-15</sup>
Events after the Battle

The Mexican victory, however, was short-lived. Thirty thousand troops and a full year later, the French were able to depose the Mexican army, capture Mexico City, and establish Emperor Maximilian I as ruler of Mexico.<sup id="cite_ref-mexonline_0-1" class="reference"> </sup>However, the French victory was also short-lived, lasting only 3 years, from 1864 to 1867. With the U.S. Civil War over in 1865, the U.S. was able to provide more assistance to Mexico to expel the French, after which Maximilian I was executed by the Mexicans, along with his Mexican generals Miramón and Mejía, in the Cerro de las Campanas, Querétaro.<sup id="cite_ref-mexonline_0-2" class="reference">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinco_de_Mayo#cite_note-mexonline-0</sup><sup id="cite_ref-inside-mexico_13-1" class="reference">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinco_de_Mayo#cite_note-inside-mexico-13</sup>
Significance

The Battle of Puebla was important for at least two reasons. First, although considerably outnumbered, the Mexicans defeated a much better-equipped French army. "This battle was significant in that the 4,000 Mexican soldiers were greatly outnumbered by the well-equipped French army of 8,000 that had not been defeated for almost 50 years." Second, it was significant because since the Battle of Puebla, no country in the Americas has been invaded by any other European military force.<sup id="cite_ref-25" class="reference">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinco_de_Mayo#cite_note-25</sup>
Consequences to the United States




Some historians have argued that France's real goal was to help break up the American Union, at the time in the midst of a civil war, by helping the southern Confederacy:<sup id="cite_ref-26" class="reference">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinco_de_Mayo#cite_note-26</sup> "The Mexicans had won a great victory that kept Napoleon III from supplying the confederate rebels for another year, allowing the United States to build a powerful army. This grand army smashed the Confederates at Gettysburg just 14 months after the battle of Puebla, essentially ending the Civil War." The consequence of Cinco de Mayo to the United States has been thus recognized: "The defeat of the French army had consequences for America as well...the French defeat denied Napoleon III the opportunity to resupply the Confederate rebels for another year."<sup id="cite_ref-27" class="reference">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinco_de_Mayo#cite_note-27</sup>Donald W. Miles adds, "At the time, there were fears in the United States that the French would use Mexico as a base to back the Confederacy, so President Lincoln and his Secretary of State went out of their way to appear 'neutral' in the Mexican situation. They did not want to take on the French and the Confederates at the same time". Dr. Miles goes on to explain that "Napoleon III had hesitated to take on the United States directly, but now the news of the Civil War changed everything". It meant that the Americans would be occupied with their conflict between North and South for some time. Upon hearing the Spaniards and the British had sailed off to grab the customs house in Veracruz to start collecting their duties, Napoleon decided he would not only send the French navy, but would also start looking for someone to place as emperor in Mexico. He would then use Mexico as a base to help the Confederates win their war against the United States. Napoleon saw this as an opportunity not to be missed.<sup id="cite_ref-FOOTNOTEMiles20067_29-0" class="reference">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinco_de_Mayo#cite_note-FOOTNOTEMiles20067-29</sup> Dr. Miles then concludes, "The Emperor of France ordered his generals to spend a few months taking on Mexico and then - using Mexico as a 'base' - help the Confederates win their war against the United States. What if they had succeeded? The United States would never become the significant world power it is today...the Mexicans not only took their nation back, but influenced the outcome of the U.S. Civil War."<sup id="cite_ref-FOOTNOTEMiles2006279_30-0" class="reference">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinco_de_Mayo#cite_note-FOOTNOTEMiles2006279-30</sup>

 

[Navigator]

Yeah, hilarious! Good thing this was not about a Muslim holiday or the Islamofools would have been all over it. Wow, maybe we should start a thread on Ram a Dan? Or even better, one on the 4th of Julie? Guess we need someone it's still safe to have a good laugh over, huh?

However here are the facts for you unversed ones:

Events leading to Cinco de Mayo

Cinco de Mayo has its roots in the French occupation of Mexico, which took place in the aftermath of the Mexican-American War of 1846-48, the Mexican Civil War of 1858, and the 1860 Reform Wars. These wars left the Mexican Treasury in ruins and nearly bankrupt. On July 17, 1861, Mexican President Benito Juárez issued a moratorium in which all foreign debt payments would be suspended for two years.<sup id="cite_ref-clnet_12-0" class="reference">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinco_de_Mayo#cite_note-clnet-12</sup><sup id="cite_ref-inside-mexico_13-0" class="reference">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinco_de_Mayo#cite_note-inside-mexico-13</sup> In response, France, Britain, and Spain sent naval forces to Veracruz to demand reimbursement. Britain and Spain negotiated with Mexico and withdrew, but France, at the time ruled by Napoleon III, decided to use the opportunity to establish a Latin empire in Mexico that would favor French interests, the Second Mexican Empire.
The French invasion

Late in 1861, a well-armed French fleet stormed Veracruz, landing a large French force and driving President Juárez and his government into retreat.<sup id="cite_ref-14" class="reference">[15]</sup> Moving on from Veracruz towards Mexico City, the French army encountered heavy resistance from the Mexicans near Puebla, at the Mexican forts of Loreto and Guadalupe.<sup id="cite_ref-mexonline.com_15-0" class="reference">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinco_de_Mayo#cite_note-mexonline.com-15</sup> The 8,000-strong French army attacked the much more poorly equipped Mexican army of 4,000. Yet, on May 5, 1862,<sup id="cite_ref-16" class="reference">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinco_de_Mayo#cite_note-16</sup> the Mexicans managed to decisively crush the French army, one which, according to an article in Philadelphia's The Bulletin daily newspaper, was the best army of the time.<sup id="cite_ref-17" class="reference">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinco_de_Mayo#cite_note-17</sup>
The Mexican victory

The victory represented a significant morale boost to the Mexican army and the Mexican people at large. In the description of The History Channel, "Although not a major strategic win in the overall war against the French, Zaragoza's success at Puebla represented a great symbolic victory for the Mexican government and bolstered the resistance movement."<sup id="cite_ref-18" class="reference">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinco_de_Mayo#cite_note-18</sup>The description of Time magazine was: "The Puebla victory came to symbolize unity and pride for what seemed like a Mexican David defeating a French Goliath."<sup id="cite_ref-time.com_19-0" class="reference">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinco_de_Mayo#cite_note-time.com-19</sup> It helped establish a much-needed sense of national unity and patriotism.<sup id="cite_ref-mexonline.com_15-1" class="reference">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinco_de_Mayo#cite_note-mexonline.com-15</sup>
Events after the Battle

The Mexican victory, however, was short-lived. Thirty thousand troops and a full year later, the French were able to depose the Mexican army, capture Mexico City, and establish Emperor Maximilian I as ruler of Mexico.<sup id="cite_ref-mexonline_0-1" class="reference"> </sup>However, the French victory was also short-lived, lasting only 3 years, from 1864 to 1867. With the U.S. Civil War over in 1865, the U.S. was able to provide more assistance to Mexico to expel the French, after which Maximilian I was executed by the Mexicans, along with his Mexican generals Miramón and Mejía, in the Cerro de las Campanas, Querétaro.<sup id="cite_ref-mexonline_0-2" class="reference">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinco_de_Mayo#cite_note-mexonline-0</sup><sup id="cite_ref-inside-mexico_13-1" class="reference">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinco_de_Mayo#cite_note-inside-mexico-13</sup>
Significance

The Battle of Puebla was important for at least two reasons. First, although considerably outnumbered, the Mexicans defeated a much better-equipped French army. "This battle was significant in that the 4,000 Mexican soldiers were greatly outnumbered by the well-equipped French army of 8,000 that had not been defeated for almost 50 years." Second, it was significant because since the Battle of Puebla, no country in the Americas has been invaded by any other European military force.<sup id="cite_ref-25" class="reference">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinco_de_Mayo#cite_note-25</sup>
Consequences to the United States




Some historians have argued that France's real goal was to help break up the American Union, at the time in the midst of a civil war, by helping the southern Confederacy:<sup id="cite_ref-26" class="reference">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinco_de_Mayo#cite_note-26</sup> "The Mexicans had won a great victory that kept Napoleon III from supplying the confederate rebels for another year, allowing the United States to build a powerful army. This grand army smashed the Confederates at Gettysburg just 14 months after the battle of Puebla, essentially ending the Civil War." The consequence of Cinco de Mayo to the United States has been thus recognized: "The defeat of the French army had consequences for America as well...the French defeat denied Napoleon III the opportunity to resupply the Confederate rebels for another year."<sup id="cite_ref-27" class="reference">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinco_de_Mayo#cite_note-27</sup>Donald W. Miles adds, "At the time, there were fears in the United States that the French would use Mexico as a base to back the Confederacy, so President Lincoln and his Secretary of State went out of their way to appear 'neutral' in the Mexican situation. They did not want to take on the French and the Confederates at the same time". Dr. Miles goes on to explain that "Napoleon III had hesitated to take on the United States directly, but now the news of the Civil War changed everything". It meant that the Americans would be occupied with their conflict between North and South for some time. Upon hearing the Spaniards and the British had sailed off to grab the customs house in Veracruz to start collecting their duties, Napoleon decided he would not only send the French navy, but would also start looking for someone to place as emperor in Mexico. He would then use Mexico as a base to help the Confederates win their war against the United States. Napoleon saw this as an opportunity not to be missed.<sup id="cite_ref-FOOTNOTEMiles20067_29-0" class="reference">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinco_de_Mayo#cite_note-FOOTNOTEMiles20067-29</sup> Dr. Miles then concludes, "The Emperor of France ordered his generals to spend a few months taking on Mexico and then - using Mexico as a 'base' - help the Confederates win their war against the United States. What if they had succeeded? The United States would never become the significant world power it is today...the Mexicans not only took their nation back, but influenced the outcome of the U.S. Civil War."<sup id="cite_ref-FOOTNOTEMiles2006279_30-0" class="reference">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinco_de_Mayo#cite_note-FOOTNOTEMiles2006279-30</sup>

Thanks :o

Are you mad about something?

 

[Pard]

It's a good thing that Cinco de Mayo has nothing to do with that any more and in America it is a celebration of Mexican heritage... And all I had to do was read the first three lines of Wikipedia!

 

[Mike S]

You missed the day before Cinco de Mayo. It's sort of a star war thing, so, a belated

May the fourth be with you!

 

[Navigator]

You missed the day before Cinco de Mayo. It's sort of a star war thing, so, a belated

May the fourth be with you!

I suppose I could have included a: Beware the "Revenge of the Fifth!" ;)

 

[Pizzaguy]

You missed the day before Cinco de Mayo. It's sort of a star war thing, so, a belated

May the fourth be with you!

Oh, THAT is what all that nonsense on Facebook on Friday was about.

I get it now...

 

[tessiewebb]

It's a good thing that Cinco de Mayo has nothing to do with that any more and in America it is a celebration of Mexican heritage... And all I had to do was read the first three lines of Wikipedia!

Too bad you didn't read it all. "Nothing to do with" what exactly?

 

[Pard]

Too bad you didn't read it all. "Nothing to do with" what exactly?

Oops! There's an "all of" and an "also"! My bad! My point was that at the end of the day pretty much everyone celebrating it does so for one of two reasons...

1) They are wishing to celebrate their Mexican heritage.
2) They are wishing to have an excuse to drink alcohol.

Working in a grocery store I can assure you that our alcohol sales spiked wicked high on both the Friday (4th) before and that Saturday (5th). Further, I find it very striking that this is a holiday celebrated only in one of the Mexican providences, and it mostly an American holiday. That to me means someone is just looking for an excuse to drink alcohol

 

[Mike S]

Oops! There's an "all of" and an "also"! My bad! My point was that at the end of the day pretty much everyone celebrating it does so for one of two reasons...

1) They are wishing to celebrate their Mexican heritage.
2) They are wishing to have an excuse to drink alcohol.

Working in a grocery store I can assure you that our alcohol sales spiked wicked high on both the Friday (4th) before and that Saturday (5th). Further, I find it very striking that this is a holiday celebrated only in one of the Mexican providences, and it mostly an American holiday. That to me means someone is just looking for an excuse to drink alcohol

I think having a few beers and enjoying time with friends is a pretty good reason to have a holiday.