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Copeland Gems

For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers... Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre's sake." —Titus 1:10,11

Hey Kenny,,,this one's for you....
 
Examining and Exposing Kenneth Copeland False Gospel



Kenneth Copeland is a popular faith movement teacher. Many say do not attack Kenneth Copeland. I wish to say that I am not attacking at all, but I am sharing information that is needed for the body of Christ to know concerning what Kenneth Copeland Ministries teaches concerning what took place at the cross and what Jesus went through for atonement. I ask all those who read this to be open enough to look at this carefully and decide for yourself whether or not Kenneth Copeland is true or false doctrines on the message of the cross and salvation.



I have emailed Kenneth Copeland Ministries many times asking for confirmation of Kenneth Copeland false teaching that Jesus had to die spiritually and go to hell to suffer punishment for sins there, and that Jesus was the first one to be born again. What I am going to share is what I was given and what I have found at Kenneth Copeland's site, and other references which clearly show Kenneth Copeland does in fact teach these things which is very important to the body of Christ.



I received a letter from Kenneth Copeland Ministries in July 8, 2002 and was informed the following:



"Brother Copeland has made it a policy to not respond to or debate with anyone about their disagreements with him over the Word of God (Titus 3:9' 2 Timothy 2:23-26). In most cases no one changes their beliefs and an even greater division is created in the Body of Christ. Strife and division in His Body do not please the Lord (Proverbs 6:12-19; Romans 16:17; 1 Corinthians 3:3-9; James 3:16-18)." Now I understand that talking to certain people it can be useless at times, but it depends upon the person. Anyone can say what was said here about not responding or debating over the Word of God if one disagrees with them, but that truly is stating if one disagrees with them they do not need to defend or prove what they believe. I could say Jesus was not the Son of God and give why I believe, and then someone says to me why do you believe that? If I said, "I make it my policy not to debate over these things because it is displeasing to God and causes division." Doesn't that sound silly? Kenneth Copeland knows full well that there are those who are examining his ministry and are letting others know what is wrong with his teachings, and he says it is not him who is teaching these things, it is the Bible.


Kenneth Copeland?s False Teachings and False Gospel Message ~ by Kelly Powers



One of the great things about KCG , Ken Copeland Gems , is that there is no digging required.
 
There is no way to justify what this "false" teacher is saying....


it's clearly anti biblical...

why play around.....with a serpent

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Why is he right?

if you think he is....
 
Wow i just found this Hitch.... Hats off to you for going to the source. That was a lot of BS to say nothing. Should have sent $$$ I bet you could buy a reply
 
"God cannot do anything for you apart or separate from faith. Faith is God's source of power." ("Freedom from Fear," KCM, 1980, pg. 11-12)


Comment: This is simply not so! Gods source of power is who he is, nowhere does it say he used faith. The very nature of faith means the lesser is trusting in the greater. This would mean faith is greater than God himself. This is what has been practiced in Christian Science for years. God's source of power is found in who he is as GOD!
 
We cannot receive from God without faith. It is by faith that we receive our salvation and everything we ask from Him. Faith is the source of God's power in our lives, and that is what Copeland is saying.

James 1:6-8 NKJV
But let him ask in faith, with no doubting, for he who doubts is like a wave of the sea driven and tossed by the wind. <sup class="versenum" id="en-NKJV-30270">7</sup> For let not that man suppose that he will receive anything from the Lord; <sup class="versenum" id="en-NKJV-30271">8</sup> he is a double-minded man, unstable in all his ways.
 
Alabaster said:
We cannot receive from God without faith. It is by faith that we receive our salvation and everything we ask from Him. Faith is the source of God's power in our lives, and that is what Copeland is saying.

James 1:6-8 NKJV
But let him ask in faith, with no doubting, for he who doubts is like a wave of the sea driven and tossed by the wind. <SUP class=versenum id=en-NKJV-30270>7</SUP> For let not that man suppose that he will receive anything from the Lord; <SUP class=versenum id=en-NKJV-30271>8</SUP> he is a double-minded man, unstable in all his ways.
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And your explanation for this one?:

"God cannot do anything in the earth without a human’s permission!"
 
Strangelove said:
And your explanation for this one?:

"God cannot do anything in the earth without a human’s permission!"
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I have no idea. There has to be a context, or you are just shooting at a barrel of fish. He could have meant the same thing, that God's hands are tied if we aren't seeking Him and His will.

He doesn't move on many things in the earth without people praying and interceding. We have been given dominion. Satan has stolen by cunning our authority over the earth. It is his domain for the time being.
 
Alabaster said:
I have no idea. There has to be a context, or you are just shooting at a barrel of fish. He could have meant the same thing, that God's hands are tied if we aren't seeking Him and His will.
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That statement is completely contrary to scripture:

8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be
conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn
among many brethren.
8:30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and
whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them
he also glorified.
8:31 What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can
be against us?​

Alabaster said:
He doesn't move on many things in the earth without people praying and interceding. We have been given dominion. Satan has stolen by cunning our authority over the earth. It is his domain for the time being.
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Scriptural support for satan stealing Christian 'autoirity' please.
 
does god just bless us in our time of need with us first ASKING him?

yes he already knows the need we have but he wants us to ask him to bless us with that need being met,and we must believe that he will do it.

that is what alabaster means

otherwise why bother praying.
 
Prophecy by Kenneth Copeland to the Body of Christ at the Helena, MT Victory Campaign on May 10, 2002

Speaking of miracles “ by the end of June you will begin to hear of super-miracles, mega-moves of God that startle human minds and thinkingâ€â€¦ There will be manifestations of the Holy Ghost suddenly appear on streets and in stores and in churches and different places around the worldâ€
 
Strangelove said:
That statement is completely contrary to scripture:

8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be
conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn
among many brethren.
8:30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and
whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them
he also glorified.
8:31 What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can
be against us?​
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That refutes nothing. God works through the faithful. We have the ability to stop Him by our will. He says we have not because we ask not.​



Scriptural support for satan stealing Christian 'autoirity' please.
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Ever read Genesis and how Adam and Eve traded their authority for fruit?
 
jasoncran said:
does god just bless us in our time of need with us first ASKING him?

yes he already knows the need we have but he wants us to ask him to bless us with that need being met,and we must believe that he will do it.

that is what alabaster means

otherwise why bother praying.
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Yes. Thank you, jason.
 
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Copeland says whenever you don’t get a prayer answered, you lost at the faith game. This is pure ------- teaching, and can hurt a lot of people who are believing for loved ones to be healed.
I absolutely hate this teaching. I followed it completely, and the result of it was, when my father was dying of terminal cancer, I was totally convinced he would be healed after praying and laying hands on him.
I believe it 100 percent, never let go of that belief, and wasn’t even worried about him. When he passed away (about 2 or three weeks after being saved in a Baptist church), I was absolutely shocked. I thought he would be healed until the very end.
There is no way I could have possibly had any stronger faith. The terrible part of what this teaching did to me and my dad, though (and I’ll bet to others who totally belive it), is I never was able to show any emotional sympathy for him. I thought that would be weakness and lack of faith, which would mess up the healing.
All I told him was I wasn’t worried because of Who I knew and what I knew. So as a result, I was never there emotionally for him. And my dad was a very loving father. My lack of emotion for him was only because of this ridiculous out of balance teaching by Copeland and others.
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I am sure the full context that Copeland was speaking was that God answers all of our prayers prayed in faith.

People can be so sensitive they miss the truth.
 
Alabaster said:
That refutes nothing. God works through the faithful. We have the ability to stop Him by our will. He says we have not because we ask not.
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So if God has predestined us to Justification and glorification we can stop that with our will can we? Even though our names are already written in the book of the Lamb?

Alabaster said:
Ever read Genesis and how Adam and Eve traded their authority for fruit?
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Ah so now its not satan stealing, its people trading? Right and, wheres the authority bit?
 
<DIR>Dan 4:34 And at the end of the days I Nebuchadnezzar lifted up mine eyes unto heaven, and mine understanding returned unto me, and I blessed the most High, and I praised and honoured him that liveth for ever, whose dominion is an everlasting dominion, and his kingdom is from generation to generation:

Dan 4:35 And all the inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing: and he doeth according to his will in the army of heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth: and none can stay his hand, or say unto him, What doest thou?


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