Copeland Gems

[zone]

Speaking to a mountain is appropriate for any mountain we face in life.

I have moved mountains in my life by faith.

If you don't have faith and don't speak it, then your mountains will continue to loom.

anyone who doesn't have faith isn't saved.

i don't have to SPEAK anything.

my God can read my mind, and The Holy Spirit intercedes for me when i don't know what to pray for.

i wonder why Apostle Paul didn't ride around in a gold chariot and have a big fat bank account, perfect health, and tons to eat:

2 Corinthians 11
Paul’s Sufferings as an Apostle
16 I repeat, let no one think me foolish. But even if you do, accept me as a fool, so that I too may boast a little. 17 What I am saying with this boastful confidence, I say not with the Lord’s authority but as a fool. 18 Since many boast according to the flesh, I too will boast. 19 For you gladly bear with fools, being wise yourselves! 20 For you bear it if someone makes slaves of you, or devours you, or takes advantage of you, or puts on airs, or strikes you in the face. 21 To my shame, I must say, we were too weak for that!

But whatever anyone else dares to boast of—I am speaking as a fool—I also dare to boast of that. 22 Are they Hebrews? So am I. Are they Israelites? So am I. Are they offspring of Abraham? So am I. 23Are they servants of Christ? I am a better one—I am talking like a madman—with far greater labors, far more imprisonments, with countless beatings, and often near death.

24 Five times I received at the hands of the Jews the forty lashes less one. 25 Three times I was beaten with rods. Once I was stoned. Three times I was shipwrecked; a night and a day I was adrift at sea; 26 on frequent journeys, in danger from rivers, danger from robbers, danger from my own people, danger from Gentiles, danger in the city, danger in the wilderness, danger at sea, danger from false brothers; 27 in toil and hardship, through many a sleepless night, in hunger and thirst, often without food,<SUP>a</SUP> in cold and exposure. 28 And, apart from other things, there is the daily pressure on me of my anxiety for all the churches.

29 Who is weak, and I am not weak? Who is made to fall, and I am not indignant?

30 If I must boast, I will boast of the things that show my weakness. 31 The God and Father of the Lord Jesus, he who is blessed forever, knows that I am not lying. 32 At Damascus, the governor under King Aretas was guarding the city of Damascus in order to seize me, 33 but I was let down in a basket through a window in the wall and escaped his hands

 

[zone]

mountains are symbols of trails in life. as that is what i was taught.

i dont think we have that type of authority or well there would be some flat areas of the united states.

 

[Sam21]

I believe in speaking the word of God in faith in a situation,however if we get the idea that God cannot do something unless we speak it(like Copeland,Duplantis,others say)then we are out of our tree,God is God. We do need faith and faith filled words are correct,however I object to the idea that limits God to our will and words and exalts man to being in charge. A good example of this was the story by Duplantis of God creating an object and not even knowing what it was until man named it and brought it to life...a very bad teaching.

 

[jasoncran]

I believe in speaking the word of God in faith in a situation,however if we get the idea that God cannot do something unless we speak it(like Copeland,Duplantis,others say)then we are out of our tree,God is God. We do need faith and faith filled words are correct,however I object to the idea that limits God to our will and words and exalts man to being in charge. A good example of this was the story by Duplantis of God creating an object and not even knowing what it was until man named it and brought it to life...a very bad teaching.

you got to be kidding me and people listen to him still?

God is ominiscience if the did that.. nevermind that is a logical contradiction. he cant create something and not know what is that he just made.

 

[Alabaster]

mountains are symbols of trails in life. as that is what i was taught.

i dont think we have that type of authority or well there would be some flat areas of the united states.

Don't put God in a box. Jesus said it. I believe it. We have been given the authority that Jesus has.

 

[Strangelove]

Don't put God in a box. Jesus said it. I believe it. We have been given the authority that Jesus has.

So we have all power over heavens and Earth?

Authority to Judge peoples eternal fate?

Authority to declare ourselves God?

 

[Alabaster]

So we have all power over heavens and Earth?

Authority to Judge peoples eternal fate?

Authority to declare ourselves God?

We have the authority of Christ He has given us to declare the Gospel, to cast out devils, to heal the sick, to perform miracles in His name! Everything He would do if He was still with us physically, we have His authority to do, as His joint-heirs.

What you suggest is puerile and sarcastic and not worth the trouble to respond.

 

[Strangelove]

We have the authority of Christ He has given us to declare the Gospel, to cast out devils, to heal the sick, to perform miracles in His name! Everything He would do if He was still with us physically, we have His authority to do, as His joint-heirs.

None of those things has anything to do with AUTHORITY.

Authority means POWER over others. Like the things I mentioned in my previous posts. Thats the authority Jesus has.

He told us that kind of authority over others was not to be seen among us.

 

[jasoncran]

Don't put God in a box. Jesus said it. I believe it. We have been given the authority that Jesus has.

then by your logic since the days of the apostles surely that would have happened.

name time and place, and surely such a miracle would have been recorded.

also should i then speak to my back and declare wings to grow so that i dont have use an airplane?

surely God can do that but can and does he give that power to us?

trust me if we had that power, there WOULD Not be any snow on this earth or cold weather as i hate those.
thank God he doesnt allow that.

 

[zone]

then by your logic since the days of the apostles surely that would have happened.

name time and place, and surely such a miracle would have been recorded.

also should i then speak to my back and declare wings to grow so that i dont have use an airplane?

surely God can do that but can and does he give that power to us?

trust me if we had that power, there WOULD Not be any snow on this earth or cold weather as i hate those.
thank God he doesnt allow that.

:yes

 

[Pizzaguy]

We have the authority of Christ He has given us to declare the Gospel, to cast out devils, to heal the sick, to perform miracles in His name! Everything He would do if He was still with us physically, we have His authority to do, as His joint-heirs.

What you suggest is puerile and sarcastic and not worth the trouble to respond.

Wrong. This simply is not so. If we had authority to heal the sick, (given the number of us who are hurting over our sick friends and relatives) we'd have no sick people.

I have been in many a healing service - and I can tell you - our "healing power" or "healing authority" seems very weak, tenuous and sporadic at best.

When Christ healed someone, there was no doubt, no waiting - it was Dee Oh en eee - DONE. The services I have been in (and I gave up on that false teaching over 15 years ago) seemed very ineffective.

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There was one exception - one night I was sitting in church and my back suddenly went spastic. I got up to leave, but a lady near me said, "No. This is an attack of the devil". I went forward to be prayed over. As the pastor prayed (and this is on video tape, or was 20 years ago) my back went strait, my pain went AWAY - and I was ok.

But that was not healing the sick - it was chasing the devil outta me.

What occurred to me later, was that this only happened one time - a time I sat in a church where they spoke in EVERY service about "the Devil". Never before or since have I suffered such an attack. Just saying...
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So I will concede that maybe we can send the devil packing, but we cannot heal the sick. Now, if you would like to PROVE me wrong, I'll buy you a plane ticket and you can fly here to Atlanta and heal my sister of her M.S.

Seriously.

 

[reba]

Being honest with our selfs everone of us is very thank full God is in control not us!

IF we controled God by our speach as these guys imply just think

How many other drivers would be dead.

your mother-in law would be where?

Would there be a single politiction in the world...hmmm

How many folks would we have damned to hell.

God awlays answers prayer.. Some how we seem to equate the answer to always be YES. I am so glad to be under His wing

Faith comes from God to us He does not need our faith as 'they' say He created everything else on earth and the heavens , all by His little self before HE created man.

 

[Hitch]

Why are there sick people in Canada? With all the Copelanders chasing phantoms and devils Canada should be dimantling her National Health system.

But as we have seen , within the WOF questioning, even something as outrageous as Kenny's Billion Man Bit , will be labled satanic.

Its a shame ,but the glitz and bling directly influence many, giving them a hope, however false it may be.

 

[reba]

That is not fundamentally correct. I responded to the calling and cried out for God to give me faith and lead me to the Truth and HE responded. :yes Amen!

God IS the giver of faith!

Plus, I've noticed in my own personal walk, when I'm running low and pray He increases my faith, He most definitely responds. His healing goes way, way beyond the physical.

Great post Vic Amen and amen

 

[jasoncran]

We have the authority of Christ He has given us to declare the Gospel, to cast out devils, to heal the sick, to perform miracles in His name! Everything He would do if He was still with us physically, we have His authority to do, as His joint-heirs.

What you suggest is puerile and sarcastic and not worth the trouble to respond.

what stops you from saying that we can condemn men or save them?

logically if healing is the power of God then isnt salvation?
jesus said that its the self-same power.

that above thought is why i dont listen to copeland for the most part.

 

[reba]

Looking through this thread I just got this great idea!!

Why not clean up the WoF guys/gals like this thread has been cleansed?

 

[reba]

So we have all power over heavens and Earth?

Authority to Judge peoples eternal fate?

Authority to declare ourselves God?

Strangelove you not one of the elite you cant claim to be God Copeland beat ya to it.


"And I say this with all respect, so that it don't upset you too bad. But I say it anyway: When I read in the Bible where He says, "I AM," I just smile and say, "Yes, I AM, too." Believers Voice of Victory broadcast July 9 1987

 

[Hitch]

I've complained for years that the dispensational view of the work of the cross is low . Futurist in their eagerness to be the first kid on the block to recognize The AntiChrist (sic) grant far too much power to the enemy some going so far as to say the kingdom is in abeyance, adding that if Jesus is King he is not ruling today.

One blasphemy leads to another.

Christian believers do not say, in the manner Jesus did, I AM.

 

[Hitch]

Don't put God in a box. Jesus said it. I believe it. We have been given the authority that Jesus has.

Raised any dead folks lately?

Why not?

 

[Alabaster]

Raised any dead folks lately?

Why not?

Haven't been around any.