Bible Study Could the narrative of Genesis be interpreted as reflecting humanity’s historical shift from hunter-gatherer societies to that of herding and farming?

[LanaPodesta]

Greek is more specific then English on things


love is general for all types in English and yet in koine greek there are five types

Correct! My favourite term in Greek is 'kenodoxia'.

 

[onlysaved]

So Greek speakers should learn English now should they? You're saying that English is better than the original Greek?

How do you jump to these conclusions? I am not saying anything of the sort. I am only saying that modern English translations are good and there are many tools for understanding the cultures of biblical times. Therefore it is not difficult to understand the Bible, what it says and the context in which it is written.

 

[LanaPodesta]

I am only saying that modern English translations are good and there are many tools for understanding the cultures of biblical times

What happened to 'personal interpretation'?

 

[LanaPodesta]

there are many tools for understanding the cultures of biblical times

The best 'tool' being the Church that Christ founded

 

[Free]

The EOC are the original Church.

I bet the CC, and others, would disagree.

I bet you believe in the Trinity too.

Of course, because it’s in the Bible.

When do you celebrate Christmas btw?

When most everyone does.

Right. Which is why I allow the Church to correct me.

Or, you could learn to interpret the Bible yourself, as I and many others have, so you can at least have an idea of whether or not your church has corrected you correctly.

...or you're just echoing Tradition.

Or, I have learned how to understand and interpret the Bible decently, as many have, and so ended up in the right place.

Who says?

Paul, in the Bible.

Who says how we should interpret it 'properly'?

It is very much implied throughout the NT.

The Bible doesn't come with interpretation instructions.

Nope. It’s a good thing God sent his Spirit and gave us the ability to reason.

Opinion being the operative word. I entirely trust the EOC. Not personal opinion.

It is your opinion that they’re the true church and that they’re trustworthy and correct in all they teach. Yet, Paul disagrees with that last claim. And, if you don’t learn to interpret Scripture for yourself, you don’t even know if they’re telling the truth. It’s all rather circular reasoning on your part.

No, it's simple. Defer to the Church.

I agree, it’s simple if you don’t want to love God with all your mind. I find that most who profess to be followers of Christ don’t want to put in the hard work and would rather just be told what to believe.

Remarkable that you think you know how to interpret Scripture better than the people who were literally mentioned in it.

That’s false. How in the world did you manage to come to that conclusion?

But the Church that wrote the NT in Koine Greek (a language I can read but you can't) is wrong?

“The Church” wrote the NT? Here I was thinking it was individual authors, and mainly Paul.

No. Not when you have the Church to tell you exactly what it means.

Or, you could just learn to interpret Scripture to help make sure the Church is correct.

So...the Church. Bruh.

What’s “bruh”? You just out for a troll?

Name ONE thing.

Indulgences. Or, if you prefer, the perpetual virginity of Mary, the immaculate conception, etc. There is no need to discuss these, we’ve been over those before.

Why the heck should I trust a single word out of your mouth then? "Don't trust the Church, they're infallible...but you can totally trust me, bro"

I’m not asking you to. But, if you want a reason, it’s because I interpreted the Bible on my own and came up with the same answer as the EOC, and you did not.

 

[LanaPodesta]

I bet the CC, and others, would disagree.

Okay

Of course, because it’s in the Bible.

The word is never used. I don't believe you came to any conclusion about the Trinity entirely by yourself any more than I speak the languages I speak by myself

Or, you could learn to interpret the Bible yourself, as I and many others have, so you can at least have an idea of whether or not your church has corrected you correctly.

I did, and turns out I was WRONG. You came to the same conclusion as Church doctrine teaches? Great! Very risky when it comes to your own salvation

Paul

Are you suggesting St. Paul wasn't part of the Church?

Or, you could just learn to interpret Scripture to help make sure the Church is correct.

I'm flattered you have that much faith in me. I ain't that smart.

Indulgences. Or, if you prefer, the perpetual virginity of Mary, the immaculate conception, etc. There is no need to discuss these, we’ve been over those before.

The EOC didn't practice indulgences and doesn't teach the immaculate conception as doctrine. The perpetual virginity of Mary has been understood by Christians dating back to the time when Mary was still alive

But, if you want a reason, it’s because I interpreted the Bible on my own and came up with the same answer as the EOC, and you did not.

Again you're making an argument against me interpreting the Bible on my own in that case

What’s “bruh”? You just out for a troll?

No, but I am a teenager and I will use informal language on occasion.

 

[onlysaved]

The best 'tool' being the Church that Christ founded

No. The Holy Spirit working in the life of the individual just as He has done since Adam. Collectively we are all His church but He deals with people each as an individual. The most important thing is to have as correct of a view as possible about God and what He wants from us. That's far to important to trust any human establishment. Read and study the Bible and always be ready to throw what you believe or what your church doctrine states out the window when you find it to be false.

 

[onlysaved]

What happened to 'personal interpretation'?

There is no "personal translation "

It means what it means. People may disagree about the meaning of some passages. That however doesn't make both parties right. It means someone is right and the other is wrong.

 

[LanaPodesta]

It means someone is right and the other is wrong.

Right. Which is why I go to the Church for the correct understanding of the Bible

 

[LanaPodesta]

your church doctrine states out the window when you find it to be false.

Church doctrine. Capital C.

 

[hawkman]

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