Covid 19 virus plus vaccine was meant to kill us.

[Milk-Drops]

Because the government leaders were not elected by gained control through election fraud and did what their Globalist handlers told them to do.


It’s all coming to light now.



For there is nothing hidden which will not be revealed, nor has anything been kept secret but that it should come to light. Mark 4:22

C9vid predated the 2020 election by a year and Trump was president and implemented most of the precautions. Your time line is off by magnitudes.

 

[Corn Pop]

In one sense, no, they weren't prepared, but every country should have had, and some do have, pre-planned emergency procedures for events such as this. But, most panicked and didn't abide by their own protocols.

There were a few double standards that needed to be called out, like on the govns official website for rules everyone was banned from fishing and seafood gathering except a select few from a single ethnicity they were allowed. As soon as that was exposed it disappeared and the rules changed to everyone equally are banned.

 

[Corn Pop]

Piling on multiple claims makes this too long. Let's do this one at a time.

The jab rollout started where i lived on Jan 20 2021 and by October 2021 about 80% had one dose and near 60% were double and I think it eventually got to about 90% double but I don't know the date. By then millions had already had the varient the jab was for, and people continued to get different strains.

Correct me if im wrong if you know but jabs are for specific variants and viruses mutate so jabs need to be modified as that is why they have boosters and each year many elderly people get there annual flu jabs. Like influenza is still around that was originally from the spanish flu or something I think.

So by the time 90% were jab for 19 there was already other variants so I dont know how effective it would have been. This is more a question im asking.

 

[JLB]

C9vid predated the 2020 election by a year and Trump was president and implemented most of the precautions. Your time line is off by magnitudes.

My post didn’t not mention Covid 19.


Because the government leaders were not elected by gained control through election fraud and did what their Globalist handlers told them to do.


It’s all coming to light now.



For there is nothing hidden which will not be revealed, nor has anything been kept secret but that it should come to light. Mark 4:22

 

[Corn Pop]

I think many got mentally damaged after being forced in a day to completely change there way of life with rules consitently changing constantly trying to adjust to never.ending changing rules and that is completely mind screwing like one week everyone must wear a mask, then it's under control you don't need to wear a mask anymore, then suddenly you must wear a mask again, then suddenly you dont need to wear a mask anymore, mask on, mask off, mask on, mask off, lockdown, can go out now, lockdown again, ok you can go out now, lockdown again, in and out of all different lockdowns, and those who adressed there grievances ouside govn were sprayed with water sprinklers and had baby shark on full volume blasted in there ears on repeat.

Now people trying to get back to normal again and get some mind stability.

 

[Dave...]

I meant ordinary people, masses, would do anything to save their health, and life IF there was a real pandemic, not the COVID pandemic aka scam. I meant that in the case of a real pandemic they would comply without a doubt, but many people did not want to comply because they have eyes, ears, and functioning brains to discern false from real.

Forget health, people in this country will fight over toilet paper.

 

[Corn Pop]

Forget health, people in this country will fight over toilet paper.

That's how much fear was pumped into the masses brians by the establishment controlled media , it acturally caused some some people flip out like those fighting over or hoarding all the TP.

 

[Corn Pop]

One thing I believed was completely crooked and wrong was that the right to peaceful assembly was banned for those who wanted to address there grievances in the name of health and safety , so the only peaceful outlet people had was basically online where everyone could comply with the mandates and rules yet still have a peaceful outlet to question or exress themselves and have a rant if needed, basically have some sort of freedom of speech and expression and opinion during a hard time, and many even went after that and were trying to censor people's views and opinions they shared with others.

 

[Corn Pop]

Peaceful gathering was banned in the name of health and safety for people to adress the government with there questions and concerns and issues, so the only peaceful outlet people have left was basically online to share there views, beliefs, questions, and opinions, and have discussion with others, and some bigoted fascist wannabe dictators had a big cry and tried to cencor the peoples only peaceful outlet as everyone had to comply with mandates and abide by the rules.

It's like the leader of my country at the time come out and adressed the nation and said her chosen media is the only credible media and she herself is the only source of truth everyone should listen to. Yea ok Stalin. Well she did call herself a progressive socialist and before she become leader of the country was some leader in some socialist organisation and always called her socialist audience and adressed them as her comrades.

I didn't really expect less when those who went to govn to peacefully protested were sprayed by her governemnt with water sprinklers and torture music like played baby shark on loud speakers on repeat similar like they did in the gulag.

 

[Corn Pop]

I can only speak for where I was living at the time but it's amazing how some people have a cry when you try give the similarities between low level prison camps or home detention or those on a braclet and curfew, and lockdowns, it was like a mix of them all. It's just the truth and reality I don't know why some people get upset when its mentioned like never link criminal punishments with 19 policies .

Everyone got a taste of it the similar like those who get bail or are on some type of home D or tracking braclet

These were the rules i had to abide by, you were only allowed to leave the house for essential service like to get food and then you must go striaght home, you can go for a walk up the road for some exercise but you must keep your distance and not get close to other people, then you must go straight back home, you can go to work for essential service but as soon as you finish you must go straight home, any business you do enter you must without fail give them your name, address, and/or phone number for tracking in case its needed. That was the rules. Anyone who violates the rules or a snitch reports them there will be a penalty.

 

[Milk-Drops]

The jab rollout started where i lived on Jan 20 2021 and by October 2021 about 80% had one dose and near 60% were double and I think it eventually got to about 90% double but I don't know the date. By then millions had already had the varient the jab was for, and people continued to get different strains.

Correct me if im wrong if you know but jabs are for specific variants and viruses mutate so jabs need to be modified as that is why they have boosters and each year many elderly people get there annual flu jabs. Like influenza is still around that was originally from the spanish flu or something I think.

So by the time 90% were jab for 19 there was already other variants so I dont know how effective it would have been. This is more a question im asking.

You are correct that you should get boosters. The vaccine works in that even with newer strains it was effective in helping with the worst parts of the virus. The boosters just bolstered the effects.

 

[Milk-Drops]

My post didn’t not mention Covid 19.


Because the government leaders were not elected by gained control through election fraud and did what their Globalist handlers told them to do.


It’s all coming to light now.



For there is nothing hidden which will not be revealed, nor has anything been kept secret but that it should come to light. Mark 4:22

You don't have evidence for any of this.

 

[Corn Pop]

You are correct that you should get boosters. The vaccine works in that even with newer strains it was effective in helping with the worst parts of the virus. The boosters just bolstered the effects.

My argument has never been about the jab even I sometimes get falsely accused of being a anti-vaxwr.

The only thing I dont believe about the jab and will argue is that i believe it did not prevent transmission as it was not immuity, and because they had a target of a 90% jab rate and were struggling to get there suddenly they turned around and said the jab prevents transmission so those who had it are now allowed to go to restarants and cafes and those who don't they were not allowed and tried to make those who did not take it to feel guilty.

Because if the jab was basically labelled immunity where someone cannot get or spread and pass on a contagious virus to others and they all get freedom as they are all morally great, and there is no reason anyone should not take it, and if they dont then they get accused of not caring about others.

That was an excuse to try push more people and those who were hesitant or refused to get the jab to get there quota. It's obvious. The jab was not immunity. It was no miracle that stopped people from getting or transmiting and they tried make it out to be by allowed only those who had the jab to go out and have a good time with there friend and family and enjoy a coffee or a meal and everyone else must stay home.

I don't argue if the jab did or did not help the most vulnerable get less sick in infected as apparently that was the whole reason they said it was for, and I dont say it was bad or nothing. I basically stay out of that argument.

 

[JLB]

You don't have evidence for any of this.

There is much much evidence for this, you just have chosen to ignore it.




JLB

 

[Milk-Drops]

My argument has never been about the jab even I sometimes get falsely accused of being a anti-vaxwr.

The only thing I dont believe about the jab and will argue is that i believe it did not prevent transmission as it was not immuity, and because they had a target of a 90% jab rate and were struggling to get there suddenly they turned around and said the jab prevents transmission so those who had it are now allowed to go to restarants and cafes and those who don't they were not allowed and tried to make those who did not take it to feel guilty.

Because if the jab was basically labelled immunity where someone cannot get or spread and pass on a contagious virus to others and they all get freedom as they are all morally great, and there is no reason anyone should not take it, and if they dont then they get accused of not caring about others.

That was an excuse to try push more people and those who were hesitant or refused to get the jab to get there quota. It's obvious. The jab was not immunity. It was no miracle that stopped people from getting or transmiting and they tried make it out to be by allowed only those who had the jab to go out and have a good time with there friend and family and enjoy a coffee or a meal and everyone else must stay home.

I don't argue if the jab did or did not help the most vulnerable get less sick in infected as apparently that was the whole reason they said it was for, and I dont say it was bad or nothing. I basically stay out of that argument.

The issue is multi faceted. Companies didn't want to be responsible if people caught covid while parking in their business and vaccines are great but you need a certain threshold of the population to be vaccinated for the disease to get eliminated or dropped to very rare. So people became annoyed with people that didn't wNt to Vax just to be obstinate. There was understanding with legit medical reasons not to get vaxed. Now the companies did what they did for legal liability.

 

[Milk-Drops]

There is much much evidence for this, you just have chosen to ignore it.




JLB

Nah, I have read most of what you posted. It's usually questions but not any Ctual basis of fact. Begging yhe question doesn't mean you are correct.

 

[Free]

There is much much evidence for this, you just have chosen to ignore it.




JLB

Let's keep it to one conspiracy at a time.

 

[Dave...]

You are correct that you should get boosters. The vaccine works in that even with newer strains it was effective in helping with the worst parts of the virus. The boosters just bolstered the effects.

Isn't it best to let our bodies build their own defense against this stuff?

Interesting, I worked with a guy who was all for social health care. But he wasn't sure if he trusted the government enough to get a covid shot? I gently pointed out his hypocrisy to him. Most liberals think the same way.

 

[Free]

Isn't it best to let our bodies build their own defense against this stuff?

No. The problem is that there is no way to "let our bodies build their own defenses against" COVID. That is the whole problem. It's like the flu and why a person should get a flu shot every Fall.

One of the worst, most irrational arguments that happened in the pandemic was that natural immunity is best, so get infected so that you have natural immunity. Really? Get infected with the virus and risk death and health issues so that you develop (supposed) immunity to that virus (which also happens to still be constantly mutating)?

While a person can be naturally immune for a period of time after getting COVID, that immunity wanes, just like with the vaccines.

 

[Milk-Drops]

Isn't it best to let our bodies build their own defense against this stuff?

Interesting, I worked with a guy who was all for social health care. But he wasn't sure if he trusted the government enough to get a covid shot? I gently pointed out his hypocrisy to him. Most liberals think the same way.

This is a nuanced situation. Generally our immune system works with the experience of a virus, but some viruses compromise our systems to where they can not react in time. Covid can destroy your respitory system and with out that you are cooked. Vaccines are great at giving our systems a crash course. Polio and small pox were way too deadly to let go rampant so vaccines saved untold numbers of lives.


I don't know your friend's argument so I can not address that.