Covid Vaccine, a Gospel imperative

[Isilwen]

Perhaps. But then, I resisted the flu vaccine until just three years ago.

I don't get the flu shot anymore. I have had it four times in my life, and all four times I got sick with the flu that year. It wasn't the vaccine that gave me the flu, I know this. However, when you have had the flu only twice without the flu shot and four times with the flu shot it makes, kinda makes you wonder... lol.

 

[jasonc]

I don't get the flu shot anymore. I have had it four times in my life, and all four times I got sick with the flu that year. It wasn't the vaccine that gave me the flu, I know this. However, when you have had the flu only twice without the flu shot and four times with the flu shot it makes, kinda makes you wonder... lol.

same here ,the cdc has said its not effective at times

 

[JLB]

Is there any issue you take with this? If so, what are your concerns?

My concerns are I don’t want to be injected with with something that could potentially weaken my heart of cause a stroke, heart attack or seizure.

The risk of getting the Virus is less than 1/10 of 1 percent.


If I should get it, I will take my chances with prayer and what my doctor prescribes. There are way too many unknowns, and serious side effects being reported for me to trust it.




JLB

 

[JLB]

Time will need to prove this out.

Yes it will.

 

[jasonc]

4 members of a church of 50 is greater then .1 of 1 percent .

one elder ,three members ,I am one of those 4 . there are more that I know if I count work .

 

[JLB]

Trust is a pretty big obstacle and Pfizer was found guilty for being partially responsible for the opioid crises, and I’m sure there are more.

Not everyone shares your fear though, which is why I support ones personal choice to get vaccinated or not and why I believe it’s ok if somebody gets vaccinated, and at the same time hope for the best in those who decide not to get vaccinated.

Actually I have no fear; no fear whatsoever of getting COVID.

Again the risk of getting COVID 19 is less than 1/10 of 1 percent.

Why would anyone want to take a vaccine that is potentially harmful with such a low risk.

I and my wife and family have peace, great peace about our decision to not take the vaccine. No fear at all.


I hope and pray all the fraud will be exposed some day about the exaggerated claims of COVID by the hospitals, who made a fortune off the government, $30,000.00 per patient, when they falsely reported to make money and help push the pandemic narrative.


I have several family members that work in hospitals.


It s truly a media driven ”pandemic”.





JLB

 

[WIP]

Actually I have no fear; no fear whatsoever of getting COVID.

Again the risk of getting COVID 19 is less than 1/10 of 1 percent.

Why would anyone want to take a vaccine that is potentially harmful with such a low risk.

I and my wife and family have peace, great peace about our decision to not take the vaccine. No fear at all.


I hope and pray all the fraud will be exposed some day about the exaggerated claims of COVID by the hospitals, who made a fortune off the government, $30,000.00 per patient, when they falsely reported to make money and help push the pandemic narrative.


I have several family members that work in hospitals.


It s truly a media driven ”pandemic”.





JLB

Can you support your claim that the chance of getting Covid is less than 1/10 of 1 percent? The reason I say this is that so far, nearly 36% of the US population has been infected with known cases and it is expected there are many more that have had asymptomatic cases. Thirty-six percent is quite a bit higher than 1/10 of 1 percent.

 

[jasonc]

I don't think I have ever had chest pains while inhaling with asthma and no coughing fits ,especially behind my sternum ,a sharp pain when I cough ,or take a deep breath ,its fading now ,it felt like a rope crushing against the pipe as I tried to expand my chest .

 

[JLB]

Can you support your claim that the chance of getting Covid is less than 1/10 of 1 percent? The reason I say this is that so far, nearly 36% of the US population has been infected with known cases and it is expected there are many more that have had asymptomatic cases. Thirty-six percent is quite a bit higher than 1/10 of 1 percent.

36% ?

WOW, that would mean we have over 120 million people in the US walking around infected with COVID 19.

Do you believe that?

There is a huge difference in "testing positive" and actually getting affected.

They have tested fruit and vegatables that tested "positive".


Didnt you post earlier that is was over 99% chance of not getting infected?

 

[WIP]

36% ?

WOW, that would mean we have over 120 million people in the US walking around infected with COVID 19.

Do you believe that?

There is a huge difference in "testing positive" and actually getting affected.


Didnt you post earlier that is was over 99% chance of not getting infected?

Over 99% chance of not dying if infected. Yes, according to the CDC there have been over 120M confirmed cases since February 2020.

 

[jasonc]

if it's less then one percent ,given that then that means replublicans are going right along with the lies

my stare reported cases to be corrected ,fl dept of health is answering to the state governor,we elect our ag commissioner ,gov.lt gov and state ag .

all others are appointed by the governor

 

[hawkman]

Over 99% chance of not dying if infected. Yes, according to the CDC there have been over 120M confirmed cases since February 2020.

One thing I will say about the "cases" is this . I know 2 people , one has checked positive 3 times and every time was when they were in the hospital with other problems . The other one was having after effects from cancer treatments and when they went to the hospital they would check postive for covid , happened 4 times I know of with no covid symptoms present . Cases .

 

[Corn Pop]

The world changed quickly.

 

[Quantrill]

To be fair, you mispresented me as favouring forced vaccinations. I never posted anything that would justify such an inference on your part.

Yes, I do want you to get a vaccine, but I am not in favour of enforced vaccination.

I can imagine a setting where I would support forced vaccination, for example if the fatality were 25 % and not less than 1%.

But, again, I have never stated or implied that I favour forced vaccinations for covid-19.

Again, I did not misrepresent you. You have tried to use/manipulate the Christians faith to force him/her to get the vaccine. Against their will. It is no different than a business requiring vaccines in order for you to work there.

I don't want the vaccine. I won't take the vaccine.

Quantrill

 

[Edward]

The CDC reported...

120.2 Million​

Estimated Total Infections

101.8 Million​

Estimated Symptomatic Illnesses

6.2 Million​

Estimated Hospitalizations

767,000​

Estimated Total Deaths

120 million infections resulting in 767,000 deaths is only a 1.15% fatality ratio. That's nowhere near enough of a risk to require vaccinations to be mandatory. It wouldn't make any sense.

 

[Edward]

This whole covid thing smells like a dry run about people control if you ask me. I bet the next pandemic will have a much higher death rate and be terribly worse than covid.

 

[Edward]

I don't get the flu shot anymore. I have had it four times in my life, and all four times I got sick with the flu that year. It wasn't the vaccine that gave me the flu, I know this. However, when you have had the flu only twice without the flu shot and four times with the flu shot it makes, kinda makes you wonder... lol.

I've been antivax since the mid 90's. My two sons had their baby shots but then I forged their shot records al the way through school. My ywo sons have hardly ever been sick in their entire lives. They're healthy as a horse.

And because they did not get any (most) vaccinations...no one ever got sick, no one ever died. Imagine that. So keep wondering Brother and keep an open mind.

 

[stovebolts]

It is the new technology that is probably my greatest sticking point. It's only been in use for about 7 or 8 months in real application and I'm not comfortable subjecting my body to something that hasn't been time tested yet. That's why I say I admire those who have been willing to do it for they are the experimental group in this study. It's not fear for me but it is a lack of trust at this time.

I understand, and I think your concern is a valid concern as I shared that concern before I made my decision to be vaccinated.

what eased my mind was this. If you recall, the vaccine needs to be stored below zero and has a shelf life of only hours above zero. Once injected, this remains true. It is completely neutralized a few hours after injection.

 

[Isilwen]

I've been antivax since the mid 90's. My two sons had their baby shots but then I forged their shot records al the way through school. My ywo sons have hardly ever been sick in their entire lives. They're healthy as a horse.

And because they did not get any (most) vaccinations...no one ever got sick, no one ever died. Imagine that. So keep wondering Brother and keep an open mind.

My post was not an anti-vaccination post as I am definitely for vaccines and recommend people get them, including the flu vaccine. Just because the flu vaccine doesn't work for me doesn't mean it will not work for others. My mom, step-dad, girlfriend, and co-workers all get the flu shot and haven't gotten the flu.

I definitely recommend children receive all their shots and boosters.

 

[stovebolts]

I don't get the flu shot anymore. I have had it four times in my life, and all four times I got sick with the flu that year. It wasn't the vaccine that gave me the flu, I know this. However, when you have had the flu only twice without the flu shot and four times with the flu shot it makes, kinda makes you wonder... lol.

The same thing happened with me, except I continued to get my flu shot each year and each year I got the flu, then it turned into bronchitis and eventually Pnemonia. The second time I got Pnemonia the same year they tested me and I had both strains of the flu that I had been vaccinated with. I will never get the flu vaccination ever again.

So yeah, I was worried about Covid. With my respetory issues any my history of the flu shot, I felt like the Covid vaccine would be a nail in the coffin. For me, it took a lot to get my Covid vaccine. What opened the door for me was learning about mRNA and how it is used to fight Covid.