Did Cain marry his Sister?

[whirlwind]

Adam and Eve were the first in the line to Christ...they were not the first people on earth.

Scriptural proof please? If they weren't the first humans on earth, then tell me where in scripture it shows humans existing before them.

Genesis 1:26 And God said, "Let Us make man in Our image, after Our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth." So God created man in His own image, in the image of God created He him; male and female created He them.

1:31 And God saw every thing that He had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

2:5-8 And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the Lord God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground. But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground. And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life: and man became a living soul. (And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there He put the man whom He had formed.

2:21-23 And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and He took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made He a woman, and brought her unto the man. And Adam said, "This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man."

Isaiah 44:21 Remember these, O Jacob and Israel; for thou art My servant: I have formed thee; Thou art My servant: O Israel, thou shalt not be forgotten of Me.


God created mankind and He created them "male and female" on the sixth day. Then....He rested. After the day of rest He formed Adam. And Adam wasn't formed male and female...but mankind was created male and female.


The beginning of the genetic line to Jesus was from Adam. He was the perfect one for from that one came the other. Therefore Adam could rightly say...."bone of my bone and flesh of my flesh" and she was called womb-man. The word "rib" means "curve" and as man has the same number of ribs women do....could it mean the helix curve, the DNA of Adam used to form Eve?

The Bible concerns this family. It isn't the history of the world but is the history...His-story, from the beginning as it pertains to the world. God formed Adam for a specific purpose...to "till the ground," meaning....this family was chosen not only to bring forth the Seed but to scatter His seed of truth around the world (till the ground).

 

[Vic C.]

If you are wanting to read Genesis 2 chronologically, then explain this:

Gen 2:5 And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground.

Why was there no man? Man was created on the sixth day. Oh, I know, Gen. 1 is chronological and Gen. 2 fills in the details, the finer points of creation. Gen. 2 makes no mention of days at all. Assuming a pre-Adamic humankind is speculation.

 

[Dave Slayer]

Gen. 2 makes no mention of days at all.

Correct. Genesis 2 is recapping what is going on the Garden of Eden only. It is not speaking of a seperare or second creation account.

 

[follower of Christ]

You are forcing the morality of later times with the morality of the beginning times.

Agreed.
Where there is no law, there is no law to be broken.
Prior to the law prohibiting incest, it wasnt a problem.
Didnt Abraham marry his own half sister?

And yet indeed she is my sister; she is the daughter of my father, but not the daughter of my mother; and she became my wife.
(Genesis 20:12 KJV)

Where is he accused or condemned for doing so ?
Didnt God bless that union with Isaac ?
If Abraham married his sister then its no big deal that Cain did either.
The law that prohibited lying with ones fathers daughter did not yet exist.

The nakedness of thy sister, the daughter of thy father, or daughter of thy mother, whether she be born at home, or born abroad, even their nakedness thou shalt not uncover.
(Leviticus 18:9 KJV)

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[follower of Christ]

[quote="Vic C.":824ea2id]Gen. 2 makes no mention of days at all.

Correct. Genesis 2 is recapping what is going on the Garden of Eden only. It is not speaking of a seperare or second creation account.[/quote:824ea2id]
Agreed again.
Chapter 2 is simply filling in details while chapter 1 was giving the overall picture of the creation week.

 

[whirlwind]

If you are wanting to read Genesis 2 chronologically, then explain this:

Gen 2:5 And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground.

Why was there no man? Man was created on the sixth day. Oh, I know, Gen. 1 is chronological and Gen. 2 fills in the details, the finer points of creation. Gen. 2 makes no mention of days at all. Assuming a pre-Adamic humankind is speculation.

Hi Vic,

It isn't written that there was "no man" but "there was not a man to till the ground." The one for that specific purpose hadn't yet been created/formed.

The second chapter doesn't make mention of days. I believe it was because Adam was formed after the seventh day and that then our reckoning of time began. Before that it was God's reckoning....

11 Peter 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the LORD as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Mankind, all races, were created on the sixth day. Adam was after the seventh. All races didn't come from one man. Consider too that when Cain was banished he "builded a city." He, his wife and even a gaggle of children wouldn't be considered a "city." Of course, I believe the city he builded was the foundation of the great city Babylon....false religion. And too, who was out there that would kill Cain...who was he afraid of?

Genesis 4:14-15 Behold, Thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from Thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me." And the LORD said unto him," Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold." And the LORD set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.


Another consideration is who the children of Adam married. There were others there it is just that the Book is about the family of Christ.

Genesis 3:8 And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God amongst the trees of the garden.

Often people are symbolically termed...trees. Adam and Eve hid amongst the "trees" in the garden...among other people.

Ezekiel 31:8 The cedars in the garden of God could not hide him: the fir trees were not like his boughs, and the chestnut trees were not like his branches; nor any tree in the garden of God was like unto him in his beauty. I have made him fair by the multitude of his branches: so that all the trees of Eden, that were in the garden of God, envied him.

Isaiah 55:12 For ye shall go out with joy, and be led forth with peace: the mountains and the hills shall break forth before you into singing, and all the trees of the field shall clap their hands.

1 Corinthians 15:45 And so it is written, "The first man Adam was made a living soul;" the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.

Adam was the first in the line to Christ. In Strong's "first" is described as....foremost (in time, place, order or importance).....

 

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The Bible does not specifically say who Cain’s wife was. The only possible answer was that Cain's wife was his sister or niece or great-niece, etc. The Bible does not say how old Cain was when he killed Abel (Genesis 4:8). Since they were both farmers, they were likely both full-grown adults, possibly with families of their own. Adam and Eve surely had given birth to more children than just Cain and Abel at the time Abel was killed. They definitely had many more children later (Genesis 5:4). The fact that Cain was scared for his own life after he killed Abel (Genesis 4:14) indicates that there were likely many other children and perhaps even grandchildren of Adam and Eve already living at that time. Cain's wife (Genesis 4:17) was a daughter or granddaughter of Adam and Eve.

Since Adam and Eve were the first (and only) human beings, their children would have no other choice than to intermarry. God did not forbid inter-family marriage until much later when there were enough people to make intermarriage unnecessary (Leviticus 18:6-18). The reason that incest today often results in genetic abnormalities is that when two people of similar genetics (i.e., a brother and sister) have children together, there is a high risk of their recessive characteristics becoming dominant.

When people from different families have children, it is highly unlikely that both parents will carry the same recessive traits. The human genetic code has become increasingly “polluted†over the centuries as genetic defects are multiplied, amplified, and passed down from generation to generation. Adam and Eve did not have any genetic defects, and that enabled them and the first few generations of their descendants to have a far greater quality of health than we do now. Adam and Eve’s children had few, if any, genetic defects. As a result, it was safe for them to intermarry.

The major problem I have with this is that it argument completely ignores morality as the basis for not marrying immediate family and instead argues to genetics.

You are forcing the morality of later times with the morality of the beginning times. I find that to be wrong. If you have a problem with it, you need to take it up with God and not us. The first people would have had no choice but to marry within the family. If it was wrong then I guess God allowed it still. The gentetic arguments are good, in my opinion. But no matter what I think, it won't change your mind. No matter what others think, it won't change your mind. Personally, I don't really care one way or the other if they intermarried within the family back then. Like I said, if you don't like it, take it up with God.[/quote:xuwmto7k]
You seem to have missed my point: if morality is absolute, as Christians believe, then it cannot change. If they can change then they are not absolute. If God can change his mind on morals, then we're all in trouble. The genetic argument completely fails to address this and instead argues it was okay because the gene pool was pure and therefore safe.

When the law says not to marry family, it is not because the gene pool has become poor with genetic defects, but because it is an abomination. It is a moral argument. If morals are absolute, then it is always a moral argument, even pre-Law.

 

[Dave Slayer]

You seem to have missed my point: if morality is absolute, as Christians believe, then it cannot change. If they can change then they are not absolute. If God can change his mind on morals, then we're all in trouble. The genetic argument completely fails to address this and instead argues it was okay because the gene pool was pure and therefore safe.

When the law says not to marry family, it is not because the gene pool has become poor with genetic defects, but because it is an abomination. It is a moral argument. If morals are absolute, then it is always a moral argument, even pre-Law.

Whatever the case, it happened. People married their relatives back then. God allowed it for some reason. If you do not like it, take it up with God. There was no law back then to say it is wrong to inter marry within the family. Anyways, it doesn't really matter now, it is long in the past. You seem to really be letting this get to you. It is a done deal and nothing can be done about it now. When you get to heaven, ask God why. I am done discussing this subject.

God Bless!

 

[inhopeofglory]

So were rape, murder, coveting, homosexuality, sacrificing children or bestiality wrong only after God said they were wrong?

I'd like to reply by repeating my earlier question, "Why is marrying a close relative immoral?". We all marry relatives, albeit distant ones. Abraham married his half-sister (albeit as a pagan!). Isaac married his near cousin, as did Jacob. Going further back in history, the children of Noah's kids Shem, Ham, and Japheth must have also married each other (whether direct siblings or near cousins), as they "restarted" humanity after the Flood wiped everyone else out.

The answer is still "Because God says so" (whether by actual spoken decree or not - we go by His "opinion" on a matter, He is the standard), is it not? Out of who He is, His character, His will, His nature, His decrees, we obtain the standard for morality.

The examples quoted above always were and always will be wrong. For example, that murder was a sin from the beginning, before God wrote "You shall not murder" on the tablets of stone for Israel, can be seen in God's response to Cain killing Abel. Why are they wrong? Well, for one, they pervert the natural order which God has ordained.

But the question of Cain's wife is slightly different. By ordaining that Adam and Eve be the sole progenitors of the entire human race, God in effect decreed that the first generations would have to marry very close relatives. Such marriages were thus entirely within the natural order God had made. Providing they were faithful, exclusive, one-man-for-one-woman marriages, there was nothing intrinsically wrong about relationships between close relatives at that time.

The argument from genetics as a plausible reason for why God later made the decree against close-relative marriages is simply a reasonable deduction from what we now know through scientific discovery. He knew the risks such relationships would now pose, and thus moved to maintain the purity of His chosen people, through whom ultimately the Messiah would come. The same is true for much of the Law - there was nothing intrinsically wrong about eating certain animals, for example - as can be seen by our freedom to eat them now - but for every Israelite living at that time eating those animals was most certainly wrong, because God decreed it so. We can deduce reasons for even those laws, too. Of course there is the spiritual significance and foreshadowing of Christ, but there are also many practical reasons that can be suggested, such as the risk of disease (e.g. from pig meat) and so on. God was ordaining a code by which the Israelites would remain distinct and untainted, that they might be a light to the nations and bring the Messiah into the world.

The problem with not accepting that Cain married a near relative (whether sister, neice, etc) is that the Bible is emphatic that Adam and Eve were the first humans on Earth; their offspring make up all of humanity. The only possible deduction, therefore, is that Cain married a close relative. He had no other choice! I agree that this raises questions that we may find hard to grapple with, but it's a lot safer than denying the clear teaching of Scripture that Adam and Eve were the first humans.

 

[Dave Slayer]

So were rape, murder, coveting, homosexuality, sacrificing children or bestiality wrong only after God said they were wrong?

I'd like to reply by repeating my earlier question, "Why is marrying a close relative immoral?". We all marry relatives, albeit distant ones. Abraham married his half-sister (albeit as a pagan!). Isaac married his near cousin, as did Jacob. Going further back in history, the children of Noah's kids Shem, Ham, and Japheth must have also married each other (whether direct siblings or near cousins), as they "restarted" humanity after the Flood wiped everyone else out.

The answer is still "Because God says so" (whether by actual spoken decree or not - we go by His "opinion" on a matter, He is the standard), is it not? Out of who He is, His character, His will, His nature, His decrees, we obtain the standard for morality.

The examples quoted above always were and always will be wrong. For example, that murder was a sin from the beginning, before God wrote "You shall not murder" on the tablets of stone for Israel, can be seen in God's response to Cain killing Abel. Why are they wrong? Well, for one, they pervert the natural order which God has ordained.

But the question of Cain's wife is slightly different. By ordaining that Adam and Eve be the sole progenitors of the entire human race, God in effect decreed that the first generations would have to marry very close relatives. Such marriages were thus entirely within the natural order God had made. Providing they were faithful, exclusive, one-man-for-one-woman marriages, there was nothing intrinsically wrong about relationships between close relatives at that time.

The argument from genetics as a plausible reason for why God later made the decree against close-relative marriages is simply a reasonable deduction from what we now know through scientific discovery. He knew the risks such relationships would now pose, and thus moved to maintain the purity of His chosen people, through whom ultimately the Messiah would come. The same is true for much of the Law - there was nothing intrinsically wrong about eating certain animals, for example - as can be seen by our freedom to eat them now - but for every Israelite living at that time eating those animals was most certainly wrong, because God decreed it so. We can deduce reasons for even those laws, too. Of course there is the spiritual significance and foreshadowing of Christ, but there are also many practical reasons that can be suggested, such as the risk of disease (e.g. from pig meat) and so on. God was ordaining a code by which the Israelites would remain distinct and untainted, that they might be a light to the nations and bring the Messiah into the world.

The problem with not accepting that Cain married a near relative (whether sister, neice, etc) is that the Bible is emphatic that Adam and Eve were the first humans on Earth; their offspring make up all of humanity. The only possible deduction, therefore, is that Cain married a close relative. He had no other choice! I agree that this raises questions that we may find hard to grapple with, but it's a lot safer than denying the clear teaching of Scripture that Adam and Eve were the first humans.

:amen

 

[mondar]

Inhopeofglory, that was very well written. Good job.

 

[Fembot]

What about the giants. If they were here-so the Bible states. Doesn't that mean we humans are not descended from Adam & Eve alone?

And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
-- Genesis 6: 1-4 (KJV)

 

[inhopeofglory]

Regardless of whether one believes they were actually "giants" (the term is more accurately "fallen ones"), they all got destroyed in the Flood. We're all descended from Noah and his sons.

 

[researcher]

Did Cain marry his Sister?

I don't think so. Cain went off into another land. I doubt if Adam would have let Cain marry a daughter after killing his only other son. That is, if Adam and Eve even had daughters when Cain was sent away. Probably married a person from Nod from the other people God made.

 

[Lewis]

Posted by permission of the author

Cain's Wife
By Allen Young

One of the most often repeated questions about the origin of things is "where did Cain get his wife". The answer is quite simple, she was his sister, but quite removed.

We need to remember that Adam lived nine centuries; 930 years to be exact. To put that into perspective, a man who died this year at the age of 930 would have been born in 1077 A.D. And one might presume that long life means healthy life.

We're not sure how long Eve was healthy enough to bear children, but Scripture states she had a son to replace Abel who was killed by Cain and named him Seth when Adam was 130, and afterwards had other sons and daughters. Scripture then states when Seth was 105 he became the father of Enosh. We cannot say with certainty Enosh was Seth's first child, but it is likely he was Seth's first son. However, if he was Seth's first child then Adam at the age of 235 had a daughter old enough to marry Seth and bear children. And if a daughter was available for Seth, she was certainly available first for Cain.

Though punished for his sin, Cain was assured by God he would not be slain by another. By this only two possibilities can be implied. Either there were at this point other unmentioned created humans on earth, or during the course of his life Cain would not be avenged by siblings for the slaying of Abel. It is unlikely the former is true given there is no hint of corroboration in scripture. Thus, the latter must be the case. And if Cain is forbidden to be slain by another then he must have died naturally, and probably very old, as Adam lived 930 years, and Cain's younger brother Seth lived 912 years, and Seth's son Enosh lived 905.

If Cain was born one year after Adam was created, then he was 129 when Seth was born, as the scriptures state Adam was 130 when Seth was born. If Eve bore a daughter the year after Seth and she is the future wife of Cain at 15-20 years of age, then Cain is still very young at age 149 compared to a potential lifespan of 900 years, when he marries.

But if Cain waits to marry a daughter of Seth, which is possible but unlikely, and Seth's daughter is born the year after his first son, and marries Cain when she is 20 years old, then Cain is still only 255 years old.

If he waits like Noah until he's 500 years old to have kids, and marries at that time, then he has the pick of Adam's, Seth's, Enosh's, Kenan's, Mahalalel's, or Jared's daughters, or any of their descendents' daughters to marry.

To put it all into perspective, consider the following. If there are no skips in the Biblical record of generations between Adam and Noah, then the flood occurred 1706 years after Adam was created, and Adam saw Noah's dad Lamech live to be 6 years old! Lamech was Adam's great, great, great, great, great, great grandson.

Allen Young

(posted by permission)

Good stuff dude, I have not read up on this stuff in a while.

 

[researcher]

Gen 2:8 And Jehovah God planted a garden eastward, in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.
Gen 2:9 And out of the ground made Jehovah God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

Eze 31:3 Behold, the Assyrian was a cedar in Lebanon with fair branches, and with a forest-like shade, and of high stature; and its top was among the thick boughs.
Eze 31:8 The cedars in the garden of God could not hide it; the fir-trees were not like its boughs, and the plane-trees were not as its branches; nor was any tree in the garden of God like unto it in its beauty.
Eze 31:9 I made it fair by the multitude of its branches, so that all the trees of Eden, that were in the garden of God, envied it.
Eze 31:16 I made the nations to shake at the sound of his fall, when I cast him down to Sheol with them that descend into the pit; and all the trees of Eden, the choice and best of Lebanon, all that drink water, were comforted in the nether parts of the earth.

Jdg 9:8 The trees went forth on a time to anoint a king over them; and they said unto the olive-tree, Reign thou over us.
Jdg 9:9 But the olive-tree said unto them, Should I leave my fatness, wherewith by me they honor God and man, and go to wave to and fro over the trees?
Jdg 9:10 And the trees said to the fig-tree, Come thou, and reign over us.
Jdg 9:11 But the fig-tree said unto them, Should I leave my sweetness, and my good fruit, and go to wave to and fro over the trees?

Mat 3:10 And even now the axe lieth at the root of the trees: every tree therefore that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

Gen 2:8 And Jehovah God planted a garden eastward, in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.
Gen 2:9 And out of the ground made Jehovah God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

Gotta love it when God hides something in plain sight. LOL. ;) :D

 

[Lewis]

[quote="follower of Christ":1xhqh53j]Posted by permission of the author

Cain's Wife
By Allen Young

One of the most often repeated questions about the origin of things is "where did Cain get his wife". The answer is quite simple, she was his sister, but quite removed.

We need to remember that Adam lived nine centuries; 930 years to be exact. To put that into perspective, a man who died this year at the age of 930 would have been born in 1077 A.D. And one might presume that long life means healthy life.

We're not sure how long Eve was healthy enough to bear children, but Scripture states she had a son to replace Abel who was killed by Cain and named him Seth when Adam was 130, and afterwards had other sons and daughters. Scripture then states when Seth was 105 he became the father of Enosh. We cannot say with certainty Enosh was Seth's first child, but it is likely he was Seth's first son. However, if he was Seth's first child then Adam at the age of 235 had a daughter old enough to marry Seth and bear children. And if a daughter was available for Seth, she was certainly available first for Cain.

Though punished for his sin, Cain was assured by God he would not be slain by another. By this only two possibilities can be implied. Either there were at this point other unmentioned created humans on earth, or during the course of his life Cain would not be avenged by siblings for the slaying of Abel. It is unlikely the former is true given there is no hint of corroboration in scripture. Thus, the latter must be the case. And if Cain is forbidden to be slain by another then he must have died naturally, and probably very old, as Adam lived 930 years, and Cain's younger brother Seth lived 912 years, and Seth's son Enosh lived 905.

If Cain was born one year after Adam was created, then he was 129 when Seth was born, as the scriptures state Adam was 130 when Seth was born. If Eve bore a daughter the year after Seth and she is the future wife of Cain at 15-20 years of age, then Cain is still very young at age 149 compared to a potential lifespan of 900 years, when he marries.

But if Cain waits to marry a daughter of Seth, which is possible but unlikely, and Seth's daughter is born the year after his first son, and marries Cain when she is 20 years old, then Cain is still only 255 years old.

If he waits like Noah until he's 500 years old to have kids, and marries at that time, then he has the pick of Adam's, Seth's, Enosh's, Kenan's, Mahalalel's, or Jared's daughters, or any of their descendents' daughters to marry.

To put it all into perspective, consider the following. If there are no skips in the Biblical record of generations between Adam and Noah, then the flood occurred 1706 years after Adam was created, and Adam saw Noah's dad Lamech live to be 6 years old! Lamech was Adam's great, great, great, great, great, great grandson.

Allen Young

(posted by permission)

Good stuff dude, I have not read up on this stuff in a while. Also after the fall the life of man declined gradually because death set in because God made changes, and as decay set in later down the line having sex with your sister brought on problems with the children. Plus one of the reasons of long life after the fall, was because God said fill up His earth, in other words populate it. But by time we got up to Genesis:6-3 man's life expectancy had run down to about 120. During the time of Moses, the only people still doing that at least in that region, was the Egyptians, and it was causing problems in many of the kids born. Also Cain had the first little city, in those days a city could be just 10 people or whatever, so it makes sense that he had sisters and daughters there. You have to remember that God only put in the book what was important to Him, so many of Adams children were not named as well as many of his childrens kids. [/quote:1xhqh53j]

 

[whirlwind]

Gen 2:8 And Jehovah God planted a garden eastward, in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.
Gen 2:9 And out of the ground made Jehovah God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

Eze 31:3 Behold, the Assyrian was a cedar in Lebanon with fair branches, and with a forest-like shade, and of high stature; and its top was among the thick boughs.
Eze 31:8 The cedars in the garden of God could not hide it; the fir-trees were not like its boughs, and the plane-trees were not as its branches; nor was any tree in the garden of God like unto it in its beauty.
Eze 31:9 I made it fair by the multitude of its branches, so that all the trees of Eden, that were in the garden of God, envied it.
Eze 31:16 I made the nations to shake at the sound of his fall, when I cast him down to Sheol with them that descend into the pit; and all the trees of Eden, the choice and best of Lebanon, all that drink water, were comforted in the nether parts of the earth.

Jdg 9:8 The trees went forth on a time to anoint a king over them; and they said unto the olive-tree, Reign thou over us.
Jdg 9:9 But the olive-tree said unto them, Should I leave my fatness, wherewith by me they honor God and man, and go to wave to and fro over the trees?
Jdg 9:10 And the trees said to the fig-tree, Come thou, and reign over us.
Jdg 9:11 But the fig-tree said unto them, Should I leave my sweetness, and my good fruit, and go to wave to and fro over the trees?

Mat 3:10 And even now the axe lieth at the root of the trees: every tree therefore that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

Gen 2:8 And Jehovah God planted a garden eastward, in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.
Gen 2:9 And out of the ground made Jehovah God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

Gotta love it when God hides something in plain sight. LOL. ;) :D

For some reason the saying...."can't see the forest for the trees" keeps going through my mind. Yes, it is hidden in plain sight.

 

[whirlwind]

Regardless of whether one believes they were actually "giants" (the term is more accurately "fallen ones"), they all got destroyed in the Flood. We're all descended from Noah and his sons.

There was a second influx of the fallen angels. It is the fallen angels that produced the giants...the giants aren't the fallen ones. And....although many are descended from Noah...that doesn't mean all of us are.

 

[Lewis]

The word (replenish) in Genesis:1-28 is the kicker. Makes you think something was here already, this topic has come up a lot on this board. I saw Benny Hinn explain the pre Adamic thing on TBN some years back, I have it on tape somewhere. And he backed it up with Scripture, so don't jump on me, I am just saying what I heard and saw.

28And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and (replenish) the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.