Did Jesus have a human Spirit or the Spirit of God sense He is man and God?
Aside: Interesting conjectures on your part. I'll throw in mine.
One's will is dependent upon knowledge. We know that Christ's knowledge was limited as He said He didn't know the time that He would return in regards to His second coming. God (the Trinity) knows all things so the will of Christ varied to some degree from the will of God. But this doesn't necessarily mean Christ had a human will as it could also be explained by the idea the Christ's will was divine but a subset of the divine will. If something came up that wasn't part of the subset of the divine will in Christ, then the divine will could make adjustments.
That's my way of looking at it. This thought is supported by the thought that Jesus is God, He is divine.
This is critical. To not think Jesus is God is to reject salvation IMO.
I always was taught Jesus is God..
but if God...is unbodily personal power.
how do we justify this?
I also do not believe it rejects salvation
There are many people I suppose who have been born again who never gave it any thought.
people do not necessarily make a choice on what they believe without knowledge.
I believe Jesus is the son of God ..Just as Peter said..You are the son of the living God. And by that aspect we can all say He is God and man. The mother being Mary/man and father, God/Spirit
And if the word which was God was made flesh
then? If a caterpiller became a butterfly then is it still a caterpiller?
?So if you were to say Jesus is the intermediator between God and man..it would be because: write your answer here?
If I only knew English and needed to communicate with some who only spoke french I neeed a intermediatetor who speaks and knows both languages.
French and English.
Proof Texts:
A person with a third group said the critical doctrine was to believe that Jesus is God. I asked what Scripture that was based on and was given John 8:23 He said to them, “You are from below, I am from above; you are of this world, I am not of this world.
I believe Jesus is from above... the word made flesh
24 “for you will die in your sins unless you believe that I am he.
I am He, who? The one sent from above?
” This popular interpretation ignores the fact that (1) when Jesus was subsequently asked who he is, he called himself “the Son of Man” (John 8:25-28), and (2) the similarity between this verse and Exodus 3:14 exists only in the Latin and certain English translations, but not in the Greek nor in the Hebrew. Note: [John 20:31, 1 John 2:22,
1 John 4:3 and 1 John 5:13 also support the idea that one must believe Christ is divine;
I believe He is divine; from God because He was God.
as well as: 1 John 4:2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
I confess Jesus Christ, the annoited one is come in the flesh
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that
one sent by God......is now in the flesh..ok
spirit … 1 John 5:20 And we know that the Son of God has come, and has given us understanding so that we may know Him who is true; and we are in Him who is true, in His Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God and eternal life.
This might be interpreted as:
The following is a clear explanation of the verse in the Bible that Trinitarians have sometimes used in attempts to “prove” the Trinity...
www.biblicalunitarian.com
This might be interpreted as:
The True God, and Him who is true is ? God the Father
1 John 5:20
Sounds like to have a relationship with the Father you must be in the son.
Hence, the latter of the verse might be interpretted as: We are in God the father, in the son. The true God and etenal life.
References
And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is
in his Son
1Cor 8:6
But to us
there is but one God, the Father, of whom
are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom
are all things, and we by him.
[The above passage is one reason why I started this thread]
John 17:3
And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only
true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
that is, the Son of God, who is the immediate antecedent to the relative "this"; he is the true God.
Yes, but how through Substance..?
It sounds like What it's saying is this is He who came from above.
– from Greek monogenes meaning "pertaining to being the only one of its kind or class, unique in kind." This is the meaning that is implied in John 3:16 (see also John 1:14, 18; 3:18; 1 John 4:9).
Christ was begotten in eternity in a unique way that did not involve being made.
Well it was already Spoken from the mind of God.
but He did have to come to earth. And when He did He didn't come merely as Spirit..Which is unbodily power. He came as flesh.
Christ is uniquely begotten, not in time as a creature, but eternally as the Son of God. John indicates this by saying that the Logos “was with God” and “was God” at the beginning (John 1:1).
mmm.. too much to tangle here
logos meaning? Creative power or order?
If the Logos, the second person of the Trinity, is eternally begotten by the Father, then there never was a time when Christ was not begotten of the Father. The second person of the Trinity has an eternal relationship of sonship with the Father. R.C. Sproul Truths We Confess
Good points here, however there are some things to address first. Like the hypothetcal aspect; " if the logos," and what "eternally begotton" would look like.
But from what you wrote all I see in order for one to be saved is to believe Jesus is the son of the living God.
I think if something is begotton it first has to be in or a part of what begot it.
The word taking on flesh could still be said to be begotton. Unless one is saying Jesus had flesh before He came to earth. So that would look like Spiritual flesh.
But if a Spirit doesn't have a form then?
Then the begotten was when He, the word, came into the world as flesh.
that's my thoughts on the subject ... difficult question(s)
Some thoights
