Did Mary consent to our salvation?

[Hopeful 2]

So if someone put a pix of you in a jar full of urine and left it on the steps of your family, that would be acceptable behavior to you?

No wonder the world is going crazy.

Acceptable ?
Hardly.
I also hope nobody is worshipping a picture of me.
That would be unacceptable...to God.

 

[GodsGrace]

Jesus was the Word.
Mary was Jesus' mother, so the Word could put on the flesh.

Yes.
Can't answer.
And herewith lies the problem...

 

[GodsGrace]

No, I threw metal and beads in the dumpster.
Metal and beads are not Jesus or Mary.
I also tossed all my pot smoking gear, and all my ash trays in that dumpster.

I am sure He was, as I had carried that rosary through many years of idolatry.

You threw something that represents God in a dumpster.

Like when you discard the pix of an old girlfriend.

Maybe we should get rid of all images of Jesus too.

Maybe they're an idol too?

 

[GodsGrace]

Acceptable ?
Hardly.
I also hope nobody is worshipping a picture of me.
That would be unacceptable...to God.

If that behavior is not acceptable to you and you're just human.....

How much more unacceptable to put a representation of God in a jar full of urine?

The problem here is that you seem to not understand what worship means.

 

[donadams]

Clarify?

The rosary is a meditation on the Gospel!

The life death and resurrection of Christ!

 

[donadams]

Can you explain how?? Who am i allegedly stealing from??

The eighth commandment has to do with “false witness”

Scripture has no list of the Ten Commandments

 

[donadams]

I don't know why you are making a big deal out of whether Rachel is or not. Whether she is or isn't doesn't counter the FACT that Mary is dead until she gets resurrected and has her choice (Jesus or sin) fulfilled.

It establishes a biblical principle of spiritual mother

Saints are in heaven fully alive in God

 

[donadams]

Huh?? How are fundamentalists heretics? Define "fundamentalist" and "heretics".

Those who teach error

 

[donadams]

None of this gives any warrant to exaggerating Mary's blessing up to Catholic levels.

Matt 12:42 greater than Solomon!
Also has a queen at His right hand

 

[donadams]

There is no evidence Mary is queen of anything.
WHO prayed to Esther? Even if "they" did, that would be idolatry.

Prayer is directed to God the source of all blessing thru the intercession of His saints

 

[donadams]

By a real, true, permanent repentance from sin, and baptism in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of past sins.
This will not only provide the remission all men require, but also provide for the destruction of your old man with its vile affections and lusts.
Rebirth then occurs.
A new creature, with a divine nature, and with the gift of the Holy Ghost, will take the place of what was once only worthy of death.

Without the repentance, none of the other things happen.

Baptism is in the trinity Matt 28:19 eph 5:24

 

[donadams]

You have equated Christ Jesus with a piece of metal or wood.
That is idolatry.

When I left the false church and became a Christian, I threw my rosary in the dumpster.
Having the Spirit of God within me makes idols unnecessary.

Why did you reject Christ?

 

[donadams]

If you can spit on it, it is not a forbidden idol.

Fundamentalism faith without reason and even in opposition of reason

 

[Hopeful 2]

Yes.
Can't answer.
And herewith lies the problem...

Was the Word God ?

 

[Hopeful 2]

You threw something that represents God in a dumpster.

Like when you discard the pix of an old girlfriend.

Maybe we should get rid of all images of Jesus too.

Maybe they're an idol too?

If something "represents God", it is a false idol.

 

[Hopeful 2]

If that behavior is not acceptable to you and you're just human.....

How much more unacceptable to put a representation of God in a jar full of urine?

The problem here is that you seem to not understand what worship means.

You seem to worship beads and pictures.
I really hope not !

 

[Hopeful 2]

Prayer is directed to God the source of all blessing thru the intercession of His saints

Why go through alleged saints when we can go directly to God ?
"Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need." (Heb 4:16)

 

[Hopeful 2]

Baptism is in the trinity Matt 28:19 eph 5:24

If three are one, isn't all of your trinity named Jesus Christ ?

 

[Hopeful 2]

Why did you reject Christ?

I haven't.
I reject idolatry.
I rejected a life of accommodation for sin.

 

[Hopeful 2]

Fundamentalism faith without reason and even in opposition of reason

Talking to yourself ?