Did The United States Really Land On The Moon?

[rwbovee]

Probably not. There are questions that the photos should have been brighter than they were. And the shadows of the astronauts should have been equal. But why would the United States have faked not only the first supposed moon landing but eight more in the years to follow? To build a Star Wars program to use to try to dominate the world. Awhile ago on Rense.com they had a series of articles and photos by an amateur astronomer who developed a method to supercharge his telescope. He had photographed a large number of objects that are orbiting the earth that none of us know anything about. He concluded that the United States has over the years secretly set up an elaborate Star Wars system that Ronald Reagan talked about. See http://famous-conspiracy-theories-websi ... gspot.com/

 

[happyjoy]

We did land on the moon.

The astronauts are the best most honorable military personnel available. I do not believe they are liars.

The photos are not staged. Myth busters dealt with the conspiracy theories, and debunked those ideas.

Also India spotted the things we left behind when they sent the probe to the moon just last year.

 

[tim-from-pa]

Whether or not one wants to believe the United States landed on the moon, I can say for certain that the supposed shadow direction controversy (i.e. the rocks had different shadow lengths and or directions as if coming from more than one light source) is bunk. Take it from me--- a man into gnomonics and sundials. The sundial gnomon shadow points in a "different" direction than a vertical stick. It's optical illusions and not more than one light source obviously. So, if anyone says something about shadows in the moon shot landings, it's bunk and we have to look elsewhere for supposed hoaxing.

 

[John]

Proponents of the view that the Moon landings were faked give several differing theories about the motivation for the U.S. government to fake the Moon landings. Cold War prestige, monetary gain, and providing a distraction are some of the more notable motives which are given.

The U.S. government considered it vital that the U.S. win the Space Race against the Soviet Union. Going to the Moon would be risky and expensive, as exemplified by John F. Kennedy famously stating that the U.S. chose to go because it was hard. Proponents also claim that the U.S. government benefited from a popular distraction from the Vietnam War; and so lunar activities suddenly stopped, with planned missions canceled, around the same time that the U.S. ceased its involvement in the Vietnam War.

Bill Kaysing maintains that, despite close monitoring by the Soviet Union, it would have been easier for the U.S. to fake the Moon landing, thereby guaranteeing success, than for the U.S. to actually go there. Kaysing claimed that the chance of a successful landing on the Moon was calculated to be 0.017%.NASA raised approximately US$30 billion in order to go to the Moon as well, and Kaysing claims that this amount could have been used to pay off a large number of people, providing significant motivation for complicity.The issue of delivering on the promise is often brought up as well. Since most proponents believe that the technical issues involved in getting people to the Moon either were insurmountable at the time or remain insurmountable, the Moon landings had to be faked in order to fulfill President Kennedy's 1961 promise "to achieving the goal, before this decade is out, of landing a man on the Moon and returning him safely to the Earth."

 

[happyjoy]

Proponents of the view that the Moon landings were faked give several differing theories about the motivation for the U.S. government to fake the Moon landings. Cold War prestige, monetary gain, and providing a distraction are some of the more notable motives which are given.

The U.S. government considered it vital that the U.S. win the Space Race against the Soviet Union. Going to the Moon would be risky and expensive, as exemplified by John F. Kennedy famously stating that the U.S. chose to go because it was hard. Proponents also claim that the U.S. government benefited from a popular distraction from the Vietnam War; and so lunar activities suddenly stopped, with planned missions canceled, around the same time that the U.S. ceased its involvement in the Vietnam War.

Bill Kaysing maintains that, despite close monitoring by the Soviet Union, it would have been easier for the U.S. to fake the Moon landing, thereby guaranteeing success, than for the U.S. to actually go there. Kaysing claimed that the chance of a successful landing on the Moon was calculated to be 0.017%.NASA raised approximately US$30 billion in order to go to the Moon as well, and Kaysing claims that this amount could have been used to pay off a large number of people, providing significant motivation for complicity.The issue of delivering on the promise is often brought up as well. Since most proponents believe that the technical issues involved in getting people to the Moon either were insurmountable at the time or remain insurmountable, the Moon landings had to be faked in order to fulfill President Kennedy's 1961 promise "to achieving the goal, before this decade is out, of landing a man on the Moon and returning him safely to the Earth."

Are you saying we faked it?


We didn't fake it.

One would have to be an out of touch conspiracy nut to believe the moon landing was fake. Too many people were involved.

 

[John]

Are you saying we faked it?

I am saying that the US had plenty of motive to fake it.

Personally the motive is enough for me to suggest that the moon landing was fake as the landing was more of a political move rather then scientific.

The "out of touch conspiracy nut" is not needed.

 

[happyjoy]

Are you saying we faked it?

I am saying that the US had plenty of motive to fake it.

Personally the motive is enough for me to say that the moon landing was fake as the landing was more of a political move rather then scientific.

The "out of touch conspiracy nut" is not needed.

To say that we had a reason to fake it means we faked it just doesn't make sense. We either faked it or we didn't.

Sorry about the conspiracy nut comment, but really, Do you actually think the astronauts, engineers, contractors. All in all thousands of people have lied all these years? It just pushes the bounds of the absurd to the point I have a hard time wrapping my head around it.

 

[handy]

Ahhh, Johnny. Admit it, there isn't a conspiracy theory out there that you don't love, especially if it paints the good old USofA as a lying, murderous bad guy!

What's great about conspiracy theories is that they are the epitome of "Guilty until proven innocent" and no matter how many times Popular Science or Mythbusters or anyone else shows that the "proofs" the theorists point to are bogus, they just keep on keepin' on.

Happyjoy, aren't you glad that our justice system is based upon something a little more substantial than "if you had a reason (any reason no matter how far-fetched) to do "it" then you must be guilty!!!" ;)

 

[John]

I think you are looking at this the wrong way Handy. If you had a person who was well known for slashing tires live next door and next week your car tires were slashed and you found the knife that the guy had dropped on your front yard would it not be reasonable to assume that your next door neighbor did it?

Governments are corrupt this is a fact. How far they go is another story. You say Popular mechanics debunked the 9/11 C-theory and i can show you a site witch has over 1000+ people with valid credentials independent from the government which say otherwise and yet you will still hold dear to your popular mechanics.

I said i was not sold on the ideal of the fake moon landing all i said was they have motivation to fake it.

The whole "Guilty until proven innocent" thing is crap. If i stood in front of you and shot you with a paintball gun while your friend video taped there is no court on earth that would say i was innocent. Yet this is the exact stance you take in regards to 9/11.

Ahhh, Johnny. Admit it, there isn't a conspiracy theory out there that you don't love, especially if it paints the good old USofA as a lying, murderous bad guy!

Your quote above paints a very good picture of your character. The US government is one of the most corrupt governments on this planet, for God sakes they funded Hitler!!!!!!

One day when they come after you for being a Christian you might see things a different way.

I am done with this thread, if anyone (cough handy cough) wants to debate the 9/11 thing i have started a new 1 on 1 debate in regards to building #7.

Thanks

 

[jasoncran]

:mad the goverment funded the deaths of my family, no. please john, i live near nasa, and i get to see the launches. Many in my hometown may have watched the apollo launches. so then what about the others. fake as well, what about the apollo 13? was that faked as well.

:crazy

 

[GojuBrian]

OK guys, I have the skinny on all of this. I just spoke to Elvis on Facebook and he says we absolutely landed on the moon. We brought back the sasquatch and are still communicating with the Grays too.

No worrise, I have good contacts!

You may now remove your tin foil hat.

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[John]

:mad the goverment funded the deaths of my family, no. please john, i live near nasa, and i get to see the launches. Many in my hometown may have watched the apollo launches. so then what about the others. fake as well, what about the apollo 13? was that faked as well.

:crazy

Yes, Wall street financed Hitler. http://www.reformed-theology.org/html/b ... index.html

I never said the moon landing was faked. I said that there is reason to suspect that it was. You guys need to stop ranting and address the issue. I mean come on one of you used to be a mod and the other still is, grow up.

 

[John]

OK guys, I have the skinny on all of this. I just spoke to Elvis on Facebook and he says we absolutely landed on the moon. We brought back the sasquatch and are still communicating with the Grays too.

No worrise, I have good contacts!

You may now remove your tin foil hat.

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:bigfrown

Was this needed? Seriously.

 

[jasoncran]

:mad the goverment funded the deaths of my family, no. please john, i live near nasa, and i get to see the launches. Many in my hometown may have watched the apollo launches. so then what about the others. fake as well, what about the apollo 13? was that faked as well.

:crazy

Yes, Wall street financed Hitler. http://www.reformed-theology.org/html/b ... index.html

I never said the moon landing was faked. I said that there is reason to suspect that it was. You guys need to stop ranting and address the issue. I mean come on one of you used to be a mod and the other still is, grow up.

of course there was private indivuals that did support hitler, but not the goverment, Henry Ford was known for his anti-semitism. margaret sanger also funded hitler. You implied the goverment did, that they didnt. why would we attack those we supported and vice versa. Hitler and hirohito were nut jobs but not that stupid. stalin was attacked because he killed his own generals and hitler felt threatened.

 

[John]

The government is run by the elite (mainly bankers example: wall street) The president is merely a puppet. So ultimately the government financed Hitler.

I think if everyone watched Alex jones "the Obama deception" you would know exactly where i stand 100%

 

[Caroline H]

OK guys, I have the skinny on all of this. I just spoke to Elvis on Facebook and he says we absolutely landed on the moon. We brought back the sasquatch and are still communicating with the Grays too.

No worrise, I have good contacts!

You may now remove your tin foil hat.

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:biglol

 

[jasoncran]

The government is run by the elite (mainly bankers example: wall street) The president is merely a puppet. So ultimately the government financed Hitler.

I think if everyone watched Alex jones "the Obama deception" you would know exactly where i stand 100%

no,then why the crackdown on those nazi parties in the thirties? john, that is a little much considering how large the jewish community in new york is and was back then. my family came through throuh ellis island in the 1890's. would the same people who financed hitler then turn on him, why did we wait so long. pacifism

we supported england with the lend-lease act of 1938 for pete's sake.

 

[Vince]

Okay, Folks, here's what really happened. John F. Kennedy (who is alive and being held prisoner in the White House) managed to get out of his cell for a couple of hours. He tried to send a signal to the US Weather Control Team, but accidentally told the US Army to allow a janitor from Bob Jones University into the secret base where America is keeping a foreign army to seize the nation. Their general did manage to get off a message to the Soviet tanks which have been spotted in southern Mexico, and their commander has confirmed that the US did not land on the moon. However, he is at a loss to explain why no other nation has figured this out yet.

Why is this too complicated for you people to figure out?

 

[disruptor]

It's simple. Apollo was a Cold-War Hoax.

Apollo Photographic Studies by J.White

Apollo Anomalies

There are multiple anomalies in the photos: eg.: absent vehicle tracks...flags with no shadows.... multiple light sources.... hatch anomalies... module held together with scotch tape (yes really...)... color changes... and so on... even ONE anomaly would be enough but there are hundreds... see for yourself. And if going to the moon was so easy back in 1969 how comes we can't even get out of earth orbit any more?

NASA launched empty spacecraft, the splashdowns were high-altitude parachute drops from aircraft, the supposed Moon footage was produced in a studio.

But hey... everyone lies about their space program:

The Chinese:
Shenzhou VII Mission Hoax

The Soviets:
Gagarin Hoax.

Lost Cosmonauts.

"As for walking on the moon, sometimes I wonder if that really happened. I can honestly say—and it's a great surprise to me that I have never had a dream about being on the moon. It's a great disappointment to me." -- Neil Armstrong (Wagener, One Giant Leap, p. 303).

In any case we're not even supposed to go there, according to Scripture:

Psa 115: 16 The heaven, even the heavens, are the LORD's: but the earth hath he given to the children of men.

 

[jasoncran]

then you my friend best be getting off the internet, as space exploration is a sin. please.


a hoax, what if i bring witness to the actuall launches. those things did go up ya know. i live with a few hours of the cape.

quote mining gotta love it.