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Oh, someone told you this was a community discussion board, PoP? Nah.... eventually, everything here drifts back to knowing God.
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Desire to be a vessel of honor unto the Lord Jesus Christ?
Join Hidden in Him and For His Glory for discussions on how
https://christianforums.net/threads/become-a-vessel-of-honor-part-2.112306/
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Well said tob.
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Every time she bothers you, just give her a big hug and say, "I love you Mom".
If you overwhelm her with constant love, it becomes very difficult to be a difficult Mom.
Don't look for anything in return, just keep giving.
That is probably easier said than done.Someone who can harden their heart and someone with a lot of courage.
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I agree, it may not be easy.
But is it easier to take the abuse instead?
We as Christians need to constantly work at loving others.
We all fall short of this.
A good place to start is with "Mom".
Oh I agree but I think it takes a person who is very secure with themselves and well grounded.
Proverbs 25:22
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I don't see how the Proverbs fits, could you explain please?
And if we wait until we are very secure with ourselves and well grounded, none of us will ever do anything.
If you are kind to someone and ignore their very unkind behavior you are doing what is right.That is what the Lord wants you to do.They can see your kind deeds and think about their behavior.
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HAH! Gotcha!
Now apply that to me.
So....that makes sense?Or did you know all along and you are playing games with me?
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I thought it was the other way around.
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OK....personal experiences here....
....my parents drink. A lot. Typical of that generation of academicians, I guess. Actually, come to think of it...most professors I know/know of drink heavily. Weird, huh?
Anyway, I've learned to love both my parents despite the heavy, constant drinking. It helps that I'm older (30) and that I realize now how ridiculous it is to hate people for drinking (waaaay) too much. I pray for them instead. I pray for their physical and emotional healing on both sides of The Cross (some people gotta be loved and blessed into repentance, I guess) and for them to at least reduce their alcohol intake.
It does get hard. Because of a mix of personal sin and early onset mental illness and psychiatric torture (yes, that does happen...), I'm living at home and off disability. My parents are kind, but there's sometimes tension. My mother, in particular, starts drinking early in the day when not at the office and often says things while drunk that are hurtful. I mean, over the Holidays, she was basically wasted 24/7. And yet...
...love. Not only do my parents now provide me with food, shelter, a car (and an attorney!), they're helping me become a new person in Christ Jesus. So, yeah...I love them. And I've been forgiven all my sins, so I owe them forgiveness as well.
There's also compassion. My parents drink heavily for a reason that I may never understand...OK, probably more than 1 reason. The drunken cruelty I've sometimes been subjected to, even as a child, was/is rough, but I owe them compassion and forgiveness. .
....my parents drink. A lot. Typical of that generation of academicians, I guess. Actually, come to think of it...most professors I know/know of drink heavily. Weird, huh?
Anyway, I've learned to love both my parents despite the heavy, constant drinking. It helps that I'm older (30) and that I realize now how ridiculous it is to hate people for drinking (waaaay) too much. I pray for them instead. I pray for their physical and emotional healing on both sides of The Cross (some people gotta be loved and blessed into repentance, I guess) and for them to at least reduce their alcohol intake.
It does get hard. Because of a mix of personal sin and early onset mental illness and psychiatric torture (yes, that does happen...), I'm living at home and off disability. My parents are kind, but there's sometimes tension. My mother, in particular, starts drinking early in the day when not at the office and often says things while drunk that are hurtful. I mean, over the Holidays, she was basically wasted 24/7. And yet...
...love. Not only do my parents now provide me with food, shelter, a car (and an attorney!), they're helping me become a new person in Christ Jesus. So, yeah...I love them. And I've been forgiven all my sins, so I owe them forgiveness as well.
There's also compassion. My parents drink heavily for a reason that I may never understand...OK, probably more than 1 reason. The drunken cruelty I've sometimes been subjected to, even as a child, was/is rough, but I owe them compassion and forgiveness. .
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We are to forgive 70x7, as we have been forgiven. If I can't/don't/won't forgive, why should I be forgiven? I could've phrased that better in the initial post.
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Yet, doing it out of being required to still seems to come through.
I don't give a hoot if you come up with an acceptable way to word it here.... doesn't it still come down to still feeling the way you expressed your initial post?
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Sounds like you're nit-picking...
You may not be but it sounds like it.
Isn't that the same thing?
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I don't think so. CE is, in my opinion, far and away, the best writer on this forum, and I have found that he expresses himself in exactly the words he means to. I do believe the fact that he used the expression that he, "owed them" forgivness, twice in that one post to be of significance.