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Do Animals Go To Heaven ?

Lewis, I do not agree that Scripture absolutely states one way or another. I am not absolute about the opinion I posted, except that It is merely my opinion, and that I can not speak of, either way, in a positve manner. The references you have provided do not clarify it at all. I will not repeat what Drew said concering them, because I agree with the way he has put them into context. (Which would not be the normal case for Drew and I...no offence, Drew.) The absoluteness of it is not made clear, but I personally believe that God would restore them in their perfected completeness. So, please, do not presume that I disregard Scripture at all here because I do not agree that it is an absolute that animals, in their individual form, will not be restored with all of creation the way you do. You do believe animals will be there, do you not? I do, then why not in their complete form, only without the distortion of sin? Do you think their individuality is a result of sin? If that were the case, then I could understand why God would eliminate it. It they are going to be in Heaven, then why would it be without the same individual nature that they have here, provided you do not think it is a result of sin? And what is the verse that would absolutely state this? I am not trying to have a fuss with you. I am just saying that Scripture is not absolutely clear about the matter, and I have merely clarified that, and stated my opinion as to why I believe as I do. The Lord bless you.
 
Nikki,

I think the Pet Therapy is a great idea, and such a blessing for those people, and you. I pray the Lord really helps you utilize that to heal others, but also to reflect the Love of God. What a blessing to be serving others, and aiding them in their recovery as you do, Nikki. I pray that you can do it unto the Lord every minute of your day. The Lord bless you.
 
Lovely I am just posting things that are being said that is out there on the web, bringing in to play different views, on this subject thats all.

And Drew if they were to be included, they would have been spoken to, or spoken of, in those verses, because Jesus would not have left them out, if they were to be included.
 
This post demonstrates the utter lack of connection to nature that a vast number of Westernized Christians fall prey too.

When I was in the Amazon I remember when I used to go to sleep I would hear so many different things running around in the jungle that it amazed me to a great degree.

There were bats right outside my door....
There were monkeys crashing through the trees...
There was an ensemble of frogs and crickets.....
You could hear a caimon (alligator) slipping into the water...

The complexity and beauty of creation was very apparent. In the Bible we are told that in the beginning God created all these things and it was GOOD. True paradise for men was in the Garden and with all the millions of plants and animals there. WITHOUT THE PLANTS AND ANIMALS WHAT WAS ADAM TO PRAISE GOD FOR? To believe that nature has no significance is a slap in the face to God.

Without plants and animals man WILL die Physically....
Without plants and animals man WILL die Spiritually....


There will be a New Heaven and a New Earth.....

Isaiah 65:17 (New International Version)

New Heavens and a New Earth
17 "Behold, I will create
new heavens and a new earth.
The former things will not be remembered,
nor will they come to mind.


The logical conclusion to any person with a heart would be that the animals that SUFFERED on mans behalf would be allowed to inhabit the New Earth without sin and death plaguing them anymore.....
 
A Near Death Experience with Pets.....

she reports the account of a child named Lynn, at age thirteen, who had a near-death experience in which he sees his beloved dogs in heaven. Lynn underwent open-heart surgery at age thirteen to correct a condition she had had almost since birth. She was unable to run and play with the other kids, and she would on occasion turn blue and get sick. A large black Great Dane named Harvey was her constant companion and best buddy. Lynn's near-death experience is described below:


http://www.near-death.com/experiences/animals02.html
 
One things for sure...

In Heaven/alternate realites/etc there must be some pretty crazy "beasties" that are a sight to behold!

God is a Creator and I am sure there is stuff "out there" that would blow our human minds.... not to mention have superiority over us humble sinners.... :o

Are we as humans as vain to think that for all eternity God has not made some "animals" that are beyond our comprehension? Even some here on earth blow my mind!
 
Soma I believe in NDE's as a matter of fact I started a discussion on it, on this board some months back.
Her is what I wrote below.
http://www.christianforums.net/viewtopi ... sc&start=0

I believe in NDE's, I believe that God shows certain people that He is real, and that there is life after death. And also He has changed people who did not believe in Him, and these people all of them turn out to be people of God.
The founder of the Rama Bible school had such an experience, I am sitting here watching TBN, and one of todays programs is on NDE's I have seen this program 2 times before a couple years ago. But anyway I believe in NDE's.
You can't put God in a box, He has the power to do anything. And no matter where at in the world, people who go through a NDE all say the same things, even children. So who on this board does not believe in NDE's ? Oh and when God does bring you back to your body after death, of your body. It is always for a divine purpose, and all of these people know where they stand in life, and none of them, I mean none of them are ever afraid of death again. They are very calm and focused, God and people loving folks, who work for God, with al their might.
 
Lewis,

Sweet deal man...

I agree with you on the Divine Nature of the experience.

That site I linked has ALL kinds of NDE's. It is the most comprehensive I have seen on the matter...

Take care.
 
I do know that there are beast up above, but to say that thses earthly animals make it to heaven is far fetched.
 
There are going be animals for sure. Isaiah 11:6-8

6The wolf will live with the lamb, the leopard will lie down with the goat, the calf and the lion and the yearling together; and a little child will lead them. 7The cow will feed with the bear and their young will lie down together, and the lion will eat straw like the ox. 8The infant will play near the hole of the cobra and the youngh child put his hand into the viper's nest.
 
Ok, is the above passage about Heaven or the Millennial Kingdom?

In it's context, it seems to suggest peace and harmony in one place, Mt. Zion.

Isa 11:9 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea.
 
vic said:
Ok, is the above passage about Heaven or the Millennial Kingdom?

In it's context, it seems to suggest peace and harmony in one place, Mt. Zion.

Isa 11:9 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea.
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Millennial and there after. The whole earth will be paradise.
 
Then what about verse 9? Gotta try to keep things in context.

Question to anyone and all;

What is the purpose of having animals in Heaven? The spirit goes up to Heaven and all believers will be reunited with the spirit and will be forever yoked with the LORD. What then are the animals for?
 
vic said:
Then what about verse 9? Gotta try to keep things in context.

Question to anyone and all;

What is the purpose of having animals in Heaven? The spirit goes up to Heaven and all believers will be reunited with the spirit and will be forever yoked with the LORD. What then are the animals for?
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God will start all over like Adam and Eve's time with the people who respect Him as Ruler. The world was perfect before Adam and Eve sinned.
 
I don't agree that the answer is no for certain. I suspect some animals do. But in the end, only God can say for certain. The Bible was written for humans, not animals. So it would not be surprising to me that there wouldn't be a definitive indication that animals went to Heaven. They can't read. And I don't think the idea that some do would be putting them even with humans by any stretch.
 
vic said:
Ok, is the above passage about Heaven or the Millennial Kingdom?

In it's context, it seems to suggest peace and harmony in one place, Mt. Zion.

Isa 11:9 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea.
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I should have said heaven Vic. And gingercat, thoses verses are talking about heaven, if thats what you mean.
 
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