To prologue my responses below, allow me to provide a few more disclaimers, as it were.
This is not an endeavor of academia for me, regardless how much stewardship of scholarship God's grace has influenced my heart to undertake. My singular pursuit is according to Ephesians 1:17, for the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge (epignosis) of him; and knowing that it is life eternal to know the one true God and Jesus Christ whom He hath sent.
I never set out to "reformulate" or "deconstruct" God; and none of this is intended to vaunt myself or to "bottle up" God for shelf-life as an idolatrous shrine for my own self-worship. I was content to know God without formulation, because the Trinity "God Box" had left me lost without hope or salvific faith.
As the Spirit led me to a deeper understanding of man's constitution in Recovery Ministry with inmates and substance abusers, He began drawing me to the understanding that we are in His image and likeness as spirit-soul-body. In the intervening years, I've expended His faithfulness in me to study history and language for the hermeneutics and exegetical ability to yield myself to the life of the text. This was accompanied by extreme fasting and "backside of the desert" years.
This is the Divine Expression of God's Logos in me. This isn't my mind, but the mind that I've let be in me that was also in Christ Jesus. I have expended years of effort to divest myself of opinion, preference, and indoctrination.
The content I've posted is not an attempt to proselytize anyone or indoctrinate. Instead, it is shared for others to try the spirits and see if they be of God. I'm not the Holy Spirit. I'm just a man who is relating a deep understanding of God's Divine Expression of love for and to mankind. He laid down His OWN soul-life (psuche) for us. There is no greater love. I'm just trying to convey "how" He did that.
So... I'm just trying to recenter conceptualization to neutral apart from default dogma. A thorough exegesis can be made to indicate God is NOT three "persons". No need for "orthodox lockdown" and endless anathematizing rhetoric of heresy accusations.
I would sense that the general drift on this matter from PPS would be largely in line with 'Trinity' understandings,
Though I understand this association because of my retention of many points, I bristle at this because three "persons" with one who hypostasized is quite a different outcome than one transcendent "person" who embodied His singilar divinity as an immanent "person" while externalizing His own Spirit. Subtle initially, but much more purely Monotheistic. Entirely the objective being subjectively "real"-ized. Trinity is NOT that.
with perhaps the exception being the pre-existence of The Son, FLESH wise.
I'm not sure how you're correlating flesh and pre-existence here. Help me a bit.
So the question arises, was His Flesh different than the flesh of any person? It might very well seem to me to be the case in some ways, His Flesh being 'without sin.' His Flesh having no hold by Satan. His Flesh being generated by The Spirit of God Directly, etc etc. This would not preclude the formation of His Flesh as a creation in time however, as simple logic via observation dictates that to be the case.
After the first-week Sabbath, all immediate creation ceased. What remains is mediate creation through reproduction, which is procreation. The flesh of the Son is mediately created in several God-models, including Trinity. That's usually the resistance point to an presentation of the Son being inmediately created, including created sperm and/or ova being implanted, etc. The differences mostly arise around ensoulment, which demands a view of the propagation of souls/spirits.
We can move to that shared contemplation, but I'm not sure you're wanting to pursue it, though I was initially convinced you were. Let me know.
There is one matter I came to understand in contemplating these matters. That I or any other person as a viewer is relegated to a subjective view trying (often vainly) to make God bow to the subjective when that is quite impossible. Trinity understandings themselves ultimately bow to the fact of Mystery, and rightfully so. A subjective viewer can not possibly capture the entirety of what God is and consists of as THAT is known and knowable IN FULL only by and unto Himself. It is there that the Mystery stays with Him and Him Alone.
Though I agree in principle, Trinity has left little mystery or room to pursue it. Rote indoctrination and default dogmatic declaration is the rule. Mystery is an excuse for a lack of understanding; and that most often because of a lack of stewardship. God's nature has been prescribed. Assent and compliance is the mandate. No budge, no fudge. Three "persons", exclamation point. Done. No ammending or revision. No contemplation. Take your "blue pill".
That's not mystery. That's coercion. Well-meaning (mostly). Subtle. But adamance none the less. Mystery only remains to mask ignorance at the precipice of individual comprehension; but it's generally a curb-height precipice.
ALL views of the subjective viewers are automatically equated to 'less than full capture' regardless. Any such views can always and only produce 'a partial' or partialist' view by the nature of subjectivity. I have seen cases of megalomania arise in many from their attempts to capture, define, insist, vaunt their views in the attempt to say "I captured God" in effect falling into the trap of delusion.
Agreed. And Trinity escapes this how? I see a taped-up God-Box labeled "Triune".
My press is to yield myself to be apprehended OF the truth. Overtaken by it. To be captured by HIM.
There is no such capture available to any of us. Any view or position of eternal matters being contemplated or handled by the subjective has to take a rightful look at themselves first and put that matter into a reality perspective in comparison to the Objective Eternal.
Vehemently agreed. Hence my life's pursuit to express in agreement with the Divine Expression. I'm not writing a DDiv Syllabus.
The greatest value in the contemplation of God is the contemplation of God. It is an endless contemplation. A form of internal or mental freedom provided by God. Of Him there is no beginning or ending. That is eternally open territory. I have a great deal of respect for matters 'eternal.' It is the basis of the eternal and the intangible that makes theology a unique arena.
A uniquely profound perspective, and what initially convinced me of having possibly the most fruitful mutual exchange in my life's experience. I hope that's still where this leads.
Whatever the ultimate truth within, beyond, or besides what I have heretofore understood; I cannot digress to three "persons" of a Trinity. It was compromised and coerced to begin, and has grown more so with each passing era. Today, Trinity is virtually Triadism, and has become Ideologized to a point beyond Theology. Whatever is ahead, I've left Trinity behind as the subjective non-truth of the objective reality of the transcendent God.
My hope is that our dialectic would continue to matters of soul propagation and other contemplations. I welcome any area of conversation with you.
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