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[Pegasus]

No. I don't.
That's not at all what is meant by "cheap grace."
Here's a suggestion: "Find out what "cheap grace" means first and then comment.

Jim you made the statement, I think you should define it.

 

[Jim Parker]

Jim you made the statement, I think you should define it.

It's not my term.
It was "coined" by Dietrich Bonhoeffer, a 20th century martyr.
https://caffeinatedthoughts.com/2010/06/dietrich-bonhoeffer-cheap-grace-vs-costly-grace/

 

[childeye]

It's not my term.
It was "coined" by Dietrich Bonhoeffer, a 20th century martyr.
https://caffeinatedthoughts.com/2010/06/dietrich-bonhoeffer-cheap-grace-vs-costly-grace/

Having read the above, it is an obfuscation of terminology. To give up sin is depicted as a loss of something, therefore it is deemed as costly grace to give up sin. Therefore cheap grace becomes a grace where sin is okay and enabled. The grace of Christ is based on the recognition that all flesh beings do contend with the flesh and therefore forbearance is a necessary component for forgiveness and understanding. It is the understanding that sin is a form of slavery that helps renew the mind and thwarts temptation of the flesh. Thinking that giving up sin is something costly can only promote temptation.

 

[Jim Parker]

Having read the above, it is an obfuscation of terminology. To give up sin is depicted as a loss of something, therefore it is deemed as costly grace to give up sin. Therefore cheap grace becomes a grace where sin is okay and enabled. The grace of Christ is based on the recognition that all flesh beings do contend with the flesh and therefore forbearance is a necessary component for forgiveness and understanding. It is the understanding that sin is a form of slavery that helps renew the mind and thwarts temptation of the flesh. Thinking that giving up sin is something costly can only promote temptation.

I appears that you didn't understand it.
I recommend that you read The Cost of Discipleship by Dietrich Bonhoeffer.

 

[childeye]

childeye said: ↑
Having read the above, it is an obfuscation of terminology. To give up sin is depicted as a loss of something, therefore it is deemed as costly grace to give up sin. Therefore cheap grace becomes a grace where sin is okay and enabled.

I appears that you didn't understand it.
I recommend that you read The Cost of Discipleship by Dietrich Bonhoeffer.

The man is trying to say that grace is not continuing in sin. I realize that the man means well, but I fail to see how grace can ever be proposed as cheap unless there is not enough of it to ensure the intended result. He should have first said what is grace and what is not grace so that it coincides with a scriptural grace.
He said this:

Cheap grace is the grace we bestow on ourselves.

Suppose I show grace to somebody, is that cheap grace?

Cheap grace is the preaching of forgiveness without requiring repentance, baptism without church discipline, Communion without confession….

When Jesus forgave those who crucified him, when as yet there was no repentance, and when Stephen forgave those who stoned him when as yet there was no repentance, when God loved us when we were as yet sinners, was that cheap grace or the most costly grace?

Cheap grace is grace without discipleship, grace without the cross, grace without Jesus Christ, living and incarnate.

Without Christ there can be no saving grace, not even a cheap saving grace. What grace that is grace does not inspire discipleship?

Such grace is costly because it calls us to follow, and it is grace because it calls us to follow Jesus Christ. It is costly because it costs a man his life, and it is grace because it gives a man the only true life.

This is the line to which I am referencing at the outset of this post. Above, the term "costs" is used in reference to what appears to be the loss of life, when actually the loss of death would have been the more accurate.

It is costly because it condemns sin, and grace because it justifies the sinner.

It is the law that actually condemns according to the works of the law. Grace does not ever condemn a man, but instead attributes sin to the flesh.

Above all, it is costly because it cost God the life of his Son: “ye were bought at a price,” and what has cost God much cannot be cheap for us.

I can agree with this, that grace cost God dearly through the suffering of His son. All the more reason why we should show forbearance, understanding, long suffering, mercy and forgiveness. Romans 3:7, Romans 5:20. Romans 6:1, Romans 6:2.

 

[Jim Parker]

The man is trying to say that grace is not continuing in sin.

No, he did not.
You misunderstood what he said.
That's why I suggested that you read the book.