einstein said:
OK. Here is a very brief summary of the Jewish perspective on Isaiah 53. I have, as you know, previously posted in more detail so you may want to refer back to those posts for further clarification.
Isaiah 53 is one of 4 servant songs in the latter part of Isaiah. The overall theme of the latter chapters is the redemption of Israel not only from their exile following the destruction of the 1st temple, but their ultimate restoration in the Messianic age where among other things there will be a universal recognition of G-d and the Torah, universal peace, etc.
The surrounding chapters (52/53) are addressing Israel and the ultimate redemption. Isaiah 53 is consistent with the same theme, a theme which is often repeated not only within Isaiah but in other parts of the Tanach, namely, the degradation of the nation of Israel at the hands of the Gentile nations, who in the "end of days" will recognize their errors and the fact that Israel has succeeded in bringing the knowledge of the Supreme Creator to the world.
Isreal is identified as the "servant" in 8 other instances in Isaiah. The descriptions of this named servant and the un-named servant in 53 are virtually identical. There is no real reason to think that suddenly the theme of the book changes and starts to talk about Jesus. Finally, the concept of a suffering and dying messiah, son of David is not part of the traditional Jewish messianic paradigm, which describes a Messiah who shows up only once to complete the Messianic agenda as per the Tanach, during his reign as King of a unified Israel. :D
That’s exactly what YESHUA told the Jews of HIS days you merely follow man mad customs not the law of the Living G-D (is not part of the traditional Jewish messianic paradigm,) it might not be but the G-D of YISRAEL is not impressed with your customs is HE? And with out HIS approval no salvation, repentance is the keyword.
What does Jeremiah say about this 8:20
Jeremiah 8
1 " 'At that time, declares the LORD, the bones of the kings and officials of Judah, the bones of the priests and prophets, and the bones of the people of Jerusalem will be removed from their graves.
2 They will be exposed to the sun and the moon and all the stars of the heavens, which they have loved and served and which they have followed and consulted and worshiped. They will not be gathered up or buried, but will be like refuse lying on the ground. 3 Wherever I banish them, all the survivors of this evil nation will prefer death to life, declares the LORD Almighty.'
Sin and Punishment
4 "Say to them, 'This is what the LORD says:
" 'When men fall down, do they not get up?
When a man turns away, does he not return?
5
Why then have these people turned away?
Why does Jerusalem always turn away?
They cling to deceit;
they refuse to return.
6 I have listened attentively,
but they do not say what is right.
No one repents of his wickedness,
saying, "What have I done?"
Each pursues his own course
like a horse charging into battle.
7 Even the stork in the sky
knows her appointed seasons,
and the dove, the swift and the thrush
observe the time of their migration.
But my people do not know
the requirements of the LORD.
8 " 'How can you say, "We are wise,
for we have the law of the LORD,"
when actually the lying pen of the scribes
has handled it falsely?
9 The wise will be put to shame;
they will be dismayed and trapped.
Since they have rejected the word of the LORD,
what kind of wisdom do they have?
10 Therefore I will give their wives to other men
and their fields to new owners.
From the least to the greatest,
all are greedy for gain;
prophets and priests alike,
all practice deceit.
11
They dress the wound of my people
as though it were not serious.
"Peace, peace," they say,
when there is no peace.
12 Are they ashamed of their loathsome conduct?
No, they have no shame at all;
they do not even know how to blush.
So they will fall among the fallen;
they will be brought down when they are punished,
says the LORD.
13 " 'I will take away their harvest,
declares the LORD.
There will be no grapes on the vine.
There will be no figs on the tree,
and their leaves will wither.
What I have given them
will be taken from them. [a] ' "
14 "Why are we sitting here?
Gather together!
Let us flee to the fortified cities
and perish there!
For the LORD our God has doomed us to perish
and given us poisoned water to drink,
because we have sinned against him.
15
We hoped for peace
but no good has come,
for a time of healing
but there was only terror.
16 The snorting of the enemy's horses
is heard from Dan;
at the neighing of their stallions
the whole land trembles.
They have come to devour
the land and everything in it,
the city and all who live there."
17 "See, I will send venomous snakes among you,
vipers that cannot be charmed,
and they will bite you,"
declares the LORD.
18 O my Comforter
in sorrow,
my heart is faint within me.
19 Listen to the cry of my people
from a land far away:
"Is the LORD not in Zion?
Is her King no longer there?"
"Why have they provoked me to anger with their images,
with their worthless foreign idols?"
20 "The harvest is past,
the summer has ended,
and we are not saved."
21 Since my people are crushed, I am crushed;
I mourn, and horror grips me.
22 Is there no balm in Gilead?
Is there no physician there?
Why then is there no healing
for the wound of my people?
Proverbs 30
Sayings of Agur
1 The sayings of Agur son of Jakehâ€â€an oracle [a] :
This man declared to Ithiel,
to Ithiel and to Ucal:
2 "I am the most ignorant of men;
I do not have a man's understanding.
3 I have not learned wisdom,
nor have I knowledge of the Holy One.
4 Who has gone up to heaven and come down?
Who has gathered up the wind in the hollow of his hands?
Who has wrapped up the waters in his cloak?
Who has established all the ends of the earth?
What is his name, and the name of his son?
Tell me if you know!
(I will tell you YESHUA is the name of HIS SON)
5 "Every word of God is flawless;
he is a shield to those who take refuge in him.
6 Do not add to his words,
or he will rebuke you and prove you a liar.
7 "Two things I ask of you, O LORD;
do not refuse me before I die:
8 Keep falsehood and lies far from me;
give me neither poverty nor riches,
but give me only my daily bread.
9 Otherwise, I may have too much and disown you
and say, 'Who is the LORD ?'
Or I may become poor and steal,
and so dishonor the name of my God.
10 "Do not slander a servant to his master,
or he will curse you, and you will pay for it.
11 "There are those who curse their fathers
and do not bless their mothers;
12 those who are pure in their own eyes
and yet are not cleansed of their filth;
13 those whose eyes are ever so haughty,
whose glances are so disdainful;
14 those whose teeth are swords
and whose jaws are set with knives
to devour the poor from the earth,
the needy from among mankind.
Do you keep all the commandments the 613 or so? If not your in deep trouble why because if you break even one of the commandments its like you have broken them all and then what my friends?
Shalom and love b'Shem YESHUA and now tell me that Jeramiah has been tampered with along with the rest of the tanak?
