[_ Old Earth _] Evolutionism - The Odd Man Out

[2Pillars]

After some 4.53 Billion years, Evolution had Not produced even 1 Human Civilization. Suddenly, some 10,000 + - years ago, Noah arrived on this Planet. Less than 100 miles south of the mountains of Ararat, the 1st evidences of Human Civilization are observed.

It is the land of Mesopotamia which contains this Earth's first Human Civilization. NO man could have told us that our 1st Civilization is traceable to Noah and his grandsons, but God told us this more than 3,000 years ago.

For years, Evols have searched in vain for a Human Civilization older than that which is written in Scripture. There is NONE, because Noah brought Human Intelligence and Civilization to this Planet, after their World was destroyed by Water.

This, of course, means that Macro is a Lie and God's Holy Word is the Truth. We did not Evolve our Human Intelligence. We inherited it from Adam, exactly as God told us we did.

If Noah had not left his world and came to this Planet, we would still be innocent Apes, because Evolution does NOT produce Humans. Human Intelligence must be inherited from another Human.


God Bless

 

[2Pillars]

I'm waiting and have been for many, many, years. So far NO Evol has been able to identify another Civilization older than that of Mesopotamia, just South of the mountains of Ararat. God's Word stands against the false theories of man. There was NO Human Civilization until Noah arrived on this Planet some 10,000 years ago.

Just as happened on the 1st Earth, agriculture and city building were the first signs of Human Intelligence, on this Planet. NO Evolution was necessary except descent with modification, or MicroEvolution.

Don't we find it coincidental that the Cradle of Civilization, the home of writing, math, and Civilization, on this Planet, is just South of the mountains of Ararat? God's Truth is the Truth in every way.

God Bless

 

[2Pillars]

MANKIND changed from prehistoric to Human just AFTER Noah arrived on this Planet. Civilization was born just South of the Mountains of Ararat, exactly as God told us.

The reason there is No evidence of Human Civilization before Mesopotamia, is that Humanity was inherited from Noah, a direct descendant of the first Human, Adam.

Noah's grandsons married the descendants of the sons of God (Prehistoric Man) and produced those with the intelligence necessary to WRITE their own History.

Evolutionism is odd man out, and NO Evol has been able to show us ANY evidence of an Earlier Human Civilization, than that which is listed in Scripture.


God Bless

 

[jwu]

After some 4.53 Billion years, Evolution had Not produced even 1 Human Civilization.

Why would it have to? You seem to imply that that is was the "goal" of evolution, but it is not. Especially not to come up with specifically humans. And some civilization had to be the first...there is always a first time.

And it's not hard to imagine that successor civilizations would base their mythology around that one.

Evolutionism is odd man out, and NO Evol has been able to show us ANY evidence of an Earlier Human Civilization, than that which is listed in Scripture.

When would you call a society a civilization? There is plenty of evidence of human cooperation and trade that predates 10.000BC by far. How do you get that date anyway? It seems to be completely made up. I bet that if older human ruins are found, you'd set it back a few thousand years without hesitation.


By the way...you're not making any sense at all. Even if Noah arrived on this planet a few thousand years ago and brought civilization to prehistoric man, how does that relate to evolution? Both scenarios are compatible, i have no idea why you think of them as mutually exclusive. It's basically alien visitors giving a boost to human society. Does that rule out evolution? Not in any way. Strawman galore.

 

[2Pillars]

Dear jwu,

Go to Mesopotamia [Article] - World Book Online Americas Edition or any other Encyclopedia, and you will find that the first Human Civilization, is found in Mesopatamia, EXACTLY as described in Scripture.

Failure to show an Earlier Human Civilization will be the test. Either show us another, according to History, or we must accept History, which shows that God knew exactly what He wrote.

When you accept the Historical evidence, you will go exactly opposite of the Religion of the Evolution of Human Intelligence. Science should quit fighting History, in it's attempt to establish it's False Religion.

We inherited our Human Intelligence from the descendants of Noah, who built the FIRST Human cities and Civilizations on this Planet.

 

[ArtGuy]

After some 4.53 Billion years, Evolution had Not produced even 1 Human Civilization. Suddenly, some 10,000 + - years ago, Noah arrived on this Planet. Less than 100 miles south of the mountains of Ararat, the 1st evidences of Human Civilization are observed.

But... according to the Bible, the flood occured about 4500 years ago. And we've found civilizations from 7000 years ago. And those were in central Europe.

 

[jwu]

Go to Mesopotamia [Article] - World Book Online Americas Edition or any other Encyclopedia, and you will find that the first Human Civilization, is found in Mesopatamia, EXACTLY as described in Scripture.

By what definition of civilization?

Failure to show an Earlier Human Civilization will be the test. Either show us another, according to History, or we must accept History, which shows that God knew exactly what He wrote.

Last time i checked it wasn't God who wrote the Bible. Furthermore, even if the first "real" civilization was founded in that region, so what? The Bible was written after that happened after all, it didn't really predict anything about that. And furthermore, the Bible isn't exactly the only holy book which talks about Mesopotamia...the Talmud, the Qu'ran...so which one is right?

When you accept the Historical evidence, you will go exactly opposite of the Religion of the Evolution of Human Intelligence. Science should quit fighting History, in it's attempt to establish it's False Religion.

We inherited our Human Intelligence from the descendants of Noah, who built the FIRST Human cities and Civilizations on this Planet.

Where is the genetic evidence of such an influence?

 

[2Pillars]

Dear ArtGuy,

It's simple to know if one's interpretation is correct. If it agrees with God's Holy Word, true Science, and History, it's as close to the One Truth as is Humanly possible. The fault is Not with God's Truth, but with man's ability to understand it, for His thoughts are far above man's thoughts.


God Bless

 

[jwu]

but with man's ability to understand it,

...and how do you know your understanding of it is correct?

 

[2Pillars]

Dear jwu,

It matters Not what I interpret. What matters is that which is written in Scripture, and in the Rocks, must agree, or the interpretation is wrong.

When you find the One Truth, you will see that the One Truth agrees with every other discovered Truth. There is Not one Truth for Christians, and one for Scientists. When you find God's Truth, it agrees exactly with both.


God Bless

 

[2Pillars]

Dear Readers,

I present You as factual evidence that God made everything that moves, including Humans. All Humans descended from Adam, the first Human.

Science has NO idea How or When we inherited our Human Intelligence, but Moses knew, and told of it more than 3,000 years ago.

This evidence, which agrees with every true discovery of Science, History, is True to Scripture, and shows that Evols believers would Not be here, to post their ideas, if Noah had not brought Human Intelligence to this Planet of Apes.

The fact that they can organize a thought, and type it into their computer, separates them from all other animals, and identifies them as "Human".

Mindless Evolution nor Uncaring Nature produced Human Intelligence. That's the Big Lie and that's Evolutionism, the Evol Religion.

No Un-Intelligent entity, nor Flawed Theory, ever produced anything.

Jesus made it or it's Not here.

God Bless

 

[Khristeeanos]

But... according to the Bible, the flood occured about 4500 years ago. And we've found civilizations from 7000 years ago. And those were in central Europe.

Was there a stamp on the civilization that said "7000 BC" ?





Where is any support of this? There was a global flood 1,565 years after creation that wiped out all evidence of everything that lived before.

 

[Grengor]

Even the evidence of itself, aparently.

 

[ÃÂoppleganger]

:P

 

[2Pillars]

The Bible does Not give the Earth's age in man's time. In God's time, Today is the 6th Day or Age of God's creation. Scripture shows that the Big Bang, which happened some 14 Billion years ago, in man's time, was on the 3rd Day.

This means that each of God's "Days" are some 5 Billion years in length. This means that the morning of the Creation was some 25-30 Billion years ago.

The age of this present Earth is in complete accord with Scripture. Those who tell you differently only demonstate that they CANNOT understand Scripture.

The 1st Earth and the 1st Universe made on the 2nd. Day (Gen. 1:6-8)were destroyed, totally and completely, in the waters of a Flood. It's beyond this world.

2Peter 3
5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:

6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, preished: (Greek: destroyed completely)

7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

Conclusion: Noah's flood was UNIVERSAL - beyond this Cosmos.


God Bless

 

[2Pillars]

Today's Humans contain the DNA of Mt Eve, a Prehistoric woman who lived 150K years ago. We also contain the abiltiy to know good and evil, and we have a higher intelligence than Any other Creature.

How did we get this higher Intelligence? and When? History is clear. We began to build Human Civilization AFTER Noah arrived on this planet, just south of the mountains of Ararat. Scripture and History agree, but Evols remain ignorant of the Truth

 

[ÃÂoppleganger]

;-)

 

[2Pillars]

The outward expansion of OUR OWN Universe is some 15 Billion light years from it's beginning.

The 1st Universe, which was totally destroyed by water, is beyond our Cosmos, which would make it more than 15 Billion light years away.

Today's feeble scientists know of No matter which exists beyond the 15 Billion light years they can "see" at the present time.

The 1st World or Universe (Adam's thru Noah') was Dissolved in water, totally and completely. It fell and it shall Never rise again. Want Scripture?

The present World or Universe will be Dissolved with Fire. Everything living will be taken to the 3rd World or Heaven. Scripture available.

Now, concerning the Genesis - for your additional learning.......

Genesis 1:1 is a preface - The Story of the Beginning of Creation.

Genesis 1:2 documents us the CONDITION OF THE DEEP (empty, null & void) BEFORE anything was created or made.

Genesis 1:3 narrates us the bringing forth of the Light BEFORE the work of old.

Genesis 1:4 God divided the Light from the darkness before the start of any creation.

Genesis 1:5 Light Day and Night - the 1st. Day.

IOW, Scripture documents us the first actual formation of heaven ONLY took place on the 2nd Day (Genesis 1:6-8). Our universe were made on the 3rd day - NOT Genesis 1:1 - which is contrary to your religious view.

God does NOT "recreate" or REPAIR anything that he created good.

Conclusion: Gap theory is flawed not supported by the Scripture. It is only based on wild imagination or "THEORY" by those who CANNOT support their view with Scripture. :-D


God Bless

 

[ÃÂoppleganger]

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[2Pillars]

Your Theory is just another fairy tale story not supported by the Scripture. It's very good story before going to sleep. It's an invention of others religious group who could not support their view with Scripture.

Genesis 1&2 has nothing to do with the fall of Lucifer and his followers. You are way out of context and spreading fables.

Again, Genesis 1:1-2 narrate us the condition of the DEEP before the creation heaven and earth got started in the beginning.

"In the beginning God Created the heaven (Air) and the Earth (Ground). And the Earth (Ground) was without form, (Dust) and void; (Empty) and darkness (Death) was upon the face of the deep, and the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters."

Genesis 1:3 shows us the Light was brought forth into physical world from the invisble realm of the Father - to turn the condition of the deep (empty) from darkness (death) to light (life).

The brightness of the glory of YHWH or Jesus, the Son, WAS the True Ligth that was brought forth when God spoke the "Word" in the beginning and said, "LET THERE BE LIGHT". John 1:1; Gen. 1:3

All things were made through/by him: and without the True Light (Son) was not anything made that was made. Because, in him (Jesus) is Life. John 1:3-4

Jesus/YWHW, the Son, provided the Light in heaven in the beginning (ALPHA) of creation as he would also be the one providing the Light in the end (OMEGA) - New Jerusalem to come (Rev. 21:23).

Read and learn...

"And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb (Jesus) is the light thereof." Revelation 21:23

I will suggest that you get started reading the Scripture more often rather than listening to other's religious group' fables.


God Bless