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Gen 6
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Where should it be?
"This forum is a dumping ground for Christian ideas that are not widely accepted as orthodox Christian teachings."
Why not here ?
https://christianforums.net/forums/apologetics/
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Ok thanks you can move or delete it if you like
I am not a mod but I did not think this was a "dumping ground" question you asked that is why I thought you should post where more forum members would interact .
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In the Old Testament we are told of "sons of God " and the conclusion would be that indeed "sons of God " are angels . Here are verses with "sons of God " presenting themselves before the LORD .
Job1:6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.
Job2:1 Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them to present himself before the LORD.
In Job Chapter 38 we are again told of the "sons of God " and all that we can glean from the scripture is the "sons of God" are indeed angels , we are told about creation before man was created .
Job38
| 3 Gird up now thy loins like a man; for I will demand of thee, and answer thou me. |
| 4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding. |
| 5 Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it? |
| 6 Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof; |
| 7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy? |
The long ago first readers of Genesis would have understood who the "sons of God " are . That is why there is no other explanation given . And this verses in Job 38 seals the deal on who the "sons of God " are . Not human .
1 Then the LORD answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said, |
| 2 Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge? |
| 3 Gird up now thy loins like a man; for I will demand of thee, and answer thou me. |
| 4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding. |
| 5 Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it? |
| 6 Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof; |
| 7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy? |
Would not satan be the top or lead fallen angel? Why is he not a son of God? Why did he not lust after eve and have sex with her?
is it possible that the creation itself is “sons of God” the father of creation?
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With what I see in the bible I would say yes .
Just because Satan is mentioned by name from among the sons of God does not mean he is not a son of God .
We are not told in the bible .
Reword your question . You lost me .
Could the “sons of god” in the book of Job be creation itself?
God is the father of creation.
No , I don't see the definition changing for "sons of God" in the Book of Job because we were already told earlier in Job this .
Job1:6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.
Job2:1 Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them to present himself before the LORD.
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Gen 6 NEVER says angels or fallen angels elsewhere in Gen angels are called angels
The whole context of Gen 6 is mankind
Notice Gen 4 & 5 have many references to the offspring and never a word about angels or giants
Notice also the similarities between Gen 3:6 and Gen 6:2 saw it was beautiful and took it
“food for thought” lol
The whole context of Gen 6 is mankind
Notice Gen 4 & 5 have many references to the offspring and never a word about angels or giants
Notice also the similarities between Gen 3:6 and Gen 6:2 saw it was beautiful and took it
“food for thought” lol
Gen 6
1 When (human beings / sons of Adam) began to increase in number on the earth and daughters were born to them, 2 the (sons of God / elohiym / gods of "The Living One.") saw that the daughters of (humans / Adam) were beautiful, and they married any of them they chose. 3 Then (the Lord / Yahwah) said, “My Spirit will not contend with (humans / Adam / mankind) forever, for they are mortal; their days will be a hundred and twenty years.”
4 The (Nephilim / fallen ones) were on the earth in those days—and also afterward—when (the sons of Adam,) (God / gods of "The Living One") went to the daughters of (humans / Adam) and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown.
Nephilim means "Fallen Ones." Those who are of a very low moral grade.
Those who are to inherit life immortal are called (elohiym / gods of "The Living One.")
Ezekiel
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These are the words of Satan. Yes he calls himself a God. The demons he created, he thought they should take wife's and enjoy their children they begot. Enoch preach in those days that their children will not be, neither ascend. You can read it in that book of Enoch. Well the world became so bad that Satan himself destroyed them in a flood. Noah and many others was saved from that flood. Not in a ark either as the Bible states just another lie.