Go back to husband?

[th1b.taylor]

Karl I cannot thank you enough for your sincere reply. You are so right on all that you have spoken to me. The big question is how would I love my husband. You are right, I did not love him enough to obey Father. You see we were both basically forced to get married when we were not ready. So on my wedding day I felt very unhappy. I was inlove with Jesus and not my husband. We had words spoken over us both about a powerful ministry God wanted to bring to pass. All the prophetic words was about us together in ministry. I KNOW for sure he is the one I am called to be with. I made a terrible mistake in leaving him and am willing to do my part as God wants me to. Thank God He gives us second chances. I don't have years to wait for us to be together... God is coming back soon and has work for both me and my husband, and I won't take no for an answer. It is Gods will and we have a bond together and are unified by the Lord in spirit and other wise. I must make it right. Please Karl pray for our union. I need spirit filled answers. Thank you Karl and all who replied

I can't do that for you. There are none here that hate divorce more than I do but you are setting yourself and your babies up for a heaping dose of the same treatment without counseling. I spent my early years in a house where the abusive foul mouth grew into beatings that nearly killed. I was involved and I can not pray for that for anyone.

 

[mswright6488]

What in the world is going on in the church today?

What do you mean by that?

 

[mswright6488]

I don't understand how my asking for prayer is wrong!! My trying to make things right... are you better than me?

 

[mswright6488]

Im leaving this site.... I ask for prayer and I get judged!!!! Thank you my Christian brothers and sisters for up lifting me and being there for me!!!!! Good question.... what is going on in the church today?????

 

[Deborah13]

Im leaving this site.... I ask for prayer and I get judged!!!! Thank you my Christian brothers and sisters for up lifting me and being there for me!!!!! Good question.... what is going on in the church today?????

There is absolutely nothing wrong with you asking for prayer. Who do you assume is judging you? If you think I am judging you, you are very, very wrong.

 

[mswright6488]

I asked you what you meant by your statement you made.... what is going on in the church? I asked what do you mean by that? Edited reba If this is the kind of brotherly love I will receive from all of you, I don't need it. If I were not a Christian... some of you would make me wonder if I really wanted what you have. I needed GODS love and did not get it here in this place. I will keep searching for a place where I belong

 

[jasonc]

I asked you what you meant by your statement you made.... what is going on in the church? I asked what do you mean by that? EDITED REBA . If this is the kind of brotherly love I will receive from all of you, I don't need it. If I were not a Christian... some of you would make me wonder if I really wanted what you have. I needed GODS love and did not get it here in this place. I will keep searching for a place where I belong

I read the context, the church in what they prayed over you for a ministry. you marry over that and wasn't asked if this is right from god via prayer. if they did , then you might not have married in such manner. but now that you have. you like me, that married someone I may not have been the best match for and vice versa must make it work.

 

[Deborah13]

What do you mean by that?

Let me give you an example of what I experienced.
About four years ago, a very dear, old Christian woman passed me a note during the service and told me the Lord had given her a word for me. After the service the pastor and I were talking and she came to give me this word for the Lord. She said something to the effect about my dh not liking me attending church and that I was not to let him stand between me and Lord.
She was very wrong. The Lord did not give her that word because my dh had never and would never do such a thing. She had been a Christian at least 40 yrs. that I know of and she was sincere in her heart but she got it wrong.

People who believe that the Lord has given them a word for someone else need to make a clear that they could be wrong. And that the Lord will give them personally a confirmation, they should be at peace in their hearts and filled with confidence.

I have heard way too many stories about people giving others words/prophecies that have lead to trouble and sorrow or to ministries that were not blessed by God and failed.

 

[Deborah13]

edited reply to an edited post..

 

[Pizza]

It was my doing and I feel my place is with my husband and I must be the one to make it right for our marriage.

Unless YOU have been verbally abusive to HIM, I disagree. It is NOT all on YOU.
If someone is telling you that this is all on you, I'd steer clear of them unless they know something I don't.

What in the world is going on in the church today?

I don't know, but I don't like what this lady is being told. If the man is verbally abusive to the wife and kids - then the wife and kids do not belong in the home with him.

As has been stated before, verbal abuse to a child will SCREW THEM UP FOR LIFE. I know of what I speak, I was on the receiving end of it as a child and at 54 my head is STILL messed up.

 

[reba]

closed for clean up and review...

 

[reba]

2.4: Do not make an inflammatory remark just to get a response. Address issues not personalities. Respect where people are in their spiritual walk, and respect all others in general. Respect where others are in their spiritual walk, do not disrupt the flow of discussion or act in a way that affects others negatively including when debating doctrinal issues, in the defense of the Christian faith, and in offering unwelcome spiritual advice.

 

[th1b.taylor]

I don't understand how my asking for prayer is wrong!! My trying to make things right... are you better than me?

Assuming you are talking to me, no. But you have told several of here that grew up in houses like the one you describe and you have been given Godly advise, yet you are going to make your babies watch and endure this, very, ungodly behavior without even an attempt at seeking real change? God would not be happy with me for praying such and I never see Him blessing this union until and unless you and he make the effort to establish this union on God.

 

[Pizza]

I don't understand how my asking for prayer is wrong!! My trying to make things right... are you better than me?

I KNOW you are not talking to me, but again, I don't see this as something that falls on YOU to "make things right".

My last wife was horribly verbally abusive to me. Yes, I DID leave her, but I NEVER was abusive in return.
So, no matter what YOU did wrong, I do not see reason for him to be abusive to you.

ALSO, you indicated that he was abusive to the children - this SEALS it for me - this is more on him than you.
And I am alarmed that you are taking on responsibility for what sounds like is HIS responsibility.

Will God change him? Maybe. Will God change him if YOU have enough faith? --- BALONEY. Again, this is NOT on YOU.

Perhaps you did some wrong here. Fine. But the man is the head of the household. Being verbally abusive to one's own children is the sign of a man with SERIOUS issues.

I worry for you, my dear lady. I see you as more of a victim here than one who is responsible for what ever happened.
I pray he changes, but I also pray for your eyes to be open enough to see what is your responsibility - and what is HIS.

 

[th1b.taylor]

I KNOW you are not talking to me, but again, I don't see this as something that falls on YOU to "make things right".

My last wife was horribly verbally abusive to me. Yes, I DID leave her, but I NEVER was abusive in return.
So, no matter what YOU did wrong, I do not see reason for him to be abusive to you.

ALSO, you indicated that he was abusive to the children - this SEALS it for me - this is more on him than you.
And I am alarmed that you are taking on responsibility for what sounds like is HIS responsibility.

Will God change him? Maybe. Will God change him if YOU have enough faith? --- BALONEY. Again, this is NOT on YOU.

Perhaps you did some wrong here. Fine. But the man is the head of the household. Being verbally abusive to one's own children is the sign of a man with SERIOUS issues.

I worry for you, my dear lady. I see you as more of a victim here than one who is responsible for what ever happened.
I pray he changes, but I also pray for your eyes to be open enough to see what is your responsibility - and what is HIS.

So very, very, corect.

 

[Gary]

I don't think the lady wants anymore advice.


Just saying...
.

 

[Jethro Bodine]

So very, very, corect.

Anybody else see the irony here?

(Spel chek saves my but around hear)

 

[Karl]

Karl I cannot thank you enough for your sincere reply. You are so right on all that you have spoken to me. The big question is how would I love my husband. You are right, I did not love him enough to obey Father. You see we were both basically forced to get married when we were not ready. So on my wedding day I felt very unhappy. I was inlove with Jesus and not my husband. We had words spoken over us both about a powerful ministry God wanted to bring to pass. All the prophetic words was about us together in ministry. I KNOW for sure he is the one I am called to be with. I made a terrible mistake in leaving him and am willing to do my part as God wants me to. Thank God He gives us second chances. I don't have years to wait for us to be together... God is coming back soon and has work for both me and my husband, and I won't take no for an answer. It is Gods will and we have a bond together and are unified by the Lord in spirit and other wise. I must make it right. Please Karl pray for our union. I need spirit filled answers. Thank you Karl and all who replied

Yes I will pray for you and your marriage, as I'm sure many others here will be too, I also pray that you would come back, if not, then please, at least lurk, I understand a little better the emotional stress you have in this situation, so please, don't cut us off, give us another chance, ...we all love you!

I have to agree I saw red flags when I read you were forced into marriage for you two to have a ministry, that's not the way I have experienced my Father working in my life, in fact it's just the opposite, He gives me the desires of my heart, confirmed through Scripture, and those in the church have told me it wasn't of the Lord, ...boy, sure glad I didn't listen to them because they were really wrong!

So, back to your and your husband's dilemma, we read that God made a help mate for Adam and she was the best possible woman that he would ever find, and God prepares Adams and Eves for the rest of His children, and they will be the best choices we could ever make, however sometime we don't wait for Father to present them to us. If that is the case, then the person we chose to marry becomes the Adam or Eve for us, that means you and your husband have Father on your side, it will require work from both of you, but if you will let Him, because He is madly, outrageously, immeasurably in love with both of you, ...He will turn it into something beautiful and restore the years the locust have eaten.

To encourage you and give you assurance let's look at the parable of the Pearl of Great Price, what are pearls, they are a grain of sand that irritates the oyster, with much work from the oyster they are transformed into a beautiful, costly and prized gem and in the Lord's economy they are more precious than diamonds or rubies because in the parable the man sold everything he had to buy, not diamonds or rubies, but a pearl, ...why, because diamonds and rubies are easy for the Lord to create, just a thought and a word and they exist, but pearls......., He worked hard to produce them, like the oyster He suffered pain, ...from the Roman whip, endured His skull to be punctured, His beard plucked, face buffeted, ....sweated great drops of blood, all that to produce pearls, ....and we are the pearls!

So don't be discouraged, maybe you both didn't follow plan A, but He has a plan B and He paid the same price for both A and B.

May I ask some questions, maybe the Lord will speak through them to give you some ideas.

Do you attend a church, not a mega church, but a small church where everyone knows you, if yes, are there any women you know or maybe a woman's Bible Study group you could become involved in and pray and fellowship with?

If not then maybe you should consider asking Father to put you in the Church He has prepared for you, and personally, I would stay away from any that are saying, "the Lord gave me this word for you," ...we don't want to compound mistakes.

Is there a pastor the Lord has put on your heart to talk to, if so would you consider talking to him even if he isn't the pastor of the church you are attending?

Would you consider becoming like the grain of sand in a oyster (remember the grain of sand didn't have any part in the making of the pearl), truly submitting to the Lord working in you life and from the heart telling Him you want His will to be done in your life?

Have you talked to your husband since you left, if you can't talk to him maybe write a letter, sharing some of your heart and asking him to do likewise.

What I'm seeing is you both love the Lord because you both were forced into a marriage on the assumption you were going to work for the Lord, that kind of commitment to the Lord is very hard to quench, do you still love the Lord, do you think your husband does, maybe something to ask him in a letter?

If you both still love the Lord and still want to serve Him, ...what better opportunity than to let Him heal your marriage? ...That's what Father did in Nancy Missler's marriage and she wrote the book, "The Way of Agape," explaining how Father put their broken marriage back together, ...I highly suggest you read the book sis, it's full of Godly wisdom from her experience.

Father we lift up this marriage before your Throne of Grace, we ask that You would protect it, we ask that the enemy of this marriage be bound and we plead the blood of Jesus Christ afresh on it, Father we pray that Your Will be done in this matter, we ask that You would cool tempers,change hearts and and Your peace would fill both of them, ...cause them to look back to the Cross and remember how much You love them, we ask that You would turn this marriage around to glorify Your Son, for it's in His Name we pray. Amen

May the Lord richly bless you and your husband precious sister.

 

[Chopper]

If God told someone to stay in their marriage... should they go back to their husband and try again.. because God said so?

Hi mswright6488, I have not read all the posts that have been presented in your thread, but I want to help you. I'm a Christian psychologist and what I see as your reaction to some of the posts, you're not happy. Why don't you start a "conversation" with me, SAC, and I will give you the love of Jesus and solid help in your time of need.

 

[Jethro Bodine]

Chopper has the heart of a true pastor, the heart of our Great Shepherd. He cares about and chases after the wounded and scattered sheep and binds them up.

Reminds me of this passage where we see what a true pastor looks like by what a true pastor is not:

'Thus says the Lord GOD, "Woe, shepherds of Israel who have been feeding themselves! Should not the shepherds feed the flock? 3 "You eat the fat and clothe yourselves with the wool, you slaughter the fat sheep without feeding the flock. 4 "Those who are sickly you have not strengthened, the diseased you have not healed, the broken you have not bound up, the scattered you have not brought back, nor have you sought for the lost; but with force and with severity you have dominated them. 5 "They were scattered for lack of a shepherd, and they became food for every beast of the field and were scattered. 6 "My flock wandered through all the mountains and on every high hill; My flock was scattered over all the surface of the earth, and there was no one to search or seek for them.""' 7 Therefore, you shepherds, hear the word of the LORD: 8"As I live," declares the Lord GOD, "surely because My flock has become a prey, My flock has even become food for all the beasts of the field for lack of a shepherd, and My shepherds did not search for My flock, but rather the shepherds fed themselves and did not feed My flock; 9 therefore, you shepherds, hear the word of the LORD: 10 'Thus says the Lord GOD, "Behold, I am against the shepherds, and I will demand My sheep from them and make them cease from feeding sheep. So the shepherds will not feed themselves anymore, but I will deliver My flock from their mouth, so that they will not be food for them.""'

11 For thus says the Lord GOD, "Behold, I Myself will search for My sheep and seek them out. 12"As a shepherd cares for his herd in the day when he is among his scattered sheep, so I will care for My sheep and will deliver them from all the places to which they were scattered on a cloudy and gloomy day. 13 "I will bring them out from the peoples and gather them from the countries and bring them to their own land; and I will feed them on the mountains of Israel, by the streams, and in all the inhabited places of the land. 14 "I will feed them in a good pasture, and their grazing ground will be on the mountain heights of Israel. There they will lie down on good grazing ground and feed in rich pasture on the mountains of Israel. 15 "I will feed My flock and I will lead them to rest," declares the Lord GOD. 16 "I will seek the lost, bring back the scattered, bind up the broken and strengthen the sick; but the fat and the strong I will destroy. I will feed them with judgment. 17 "As for you, My flock,thus says the Lord GOD, 'Behold, I will judge between one sheep and another, between the rams and the male goats. 18 'Is it too slight a thing for you that you should feed in the good pasture, that you must tread down with your feet the rest of your pastures? Or that you should drink of the clear waters, that you must foul the rest with your feet? 19 'As for My flock, they must eat what you tread down with your feet and drink what you foul with your feet!' " 20 Therefore, thus says the Lord GOD to them, "Behold, I, even I, will judge between the fat sheep and the lean sheep. 21 "Because you push with side and with shoulder, and thrust at all the weak with your horns until you have scattered them abroad, 22 therefore, I will deliver My flock, and they will no longer be a prey; and I will judge between one sheep and another. 23 "Then I will set over them one shepherd, My servant David, and he will feed them; he will feed them himself and be their shepherd. 24 "And I, the LORD, will be their God, and My servant David will be prince among them; I the LORD have spoken. 25 "I will make a covenant of peace with them and eliminate harmful beasts from the land so that they may live securely in the wilderness and sleep in the woods. 26 "I will make them and the places around My hill a blessing. And I will cause showers to come down in their season; they will be showers of blessing. 27 "Also the tree of the field will yield its fruit and the earth will yield its increase, and they will be secure on their land.

I'm not sure I've ever been able to read these passages without welling up in tears.

Good reading for both the shepherds of the flock and the sheep of the flock.