God in my flesh

[bodhitharta]

So, the beauty of God has transcended my soul and The Holy Spirit of God fills my heart, He has given me the fulness of The Spirit without measure, God is in my flesh.

Am I God?

If not, why not?

 

[Cornelius]

So, the beauty of God has transcended my soul and The Holy Spirit of God fills my heart, He has given me the fulness of The Spirit without measure, God is in my flesh.

Am I God?

If not, why not?

Because your body can never be God. He Who indwells us is God and that part of us is God. Unless we have another gospel. You were born a "son of man" and all sons of men, have the capacity to receive the Son of God in their spirit. That part of you is not the same as your unsaved neighbor who is just still a "son of man"

Our old man (meaning: our old sinful nature) has been crucified . Its dead. Its no longer alive. Why? Because that is what the Bible say. We have been crucified with Christ and no longer live. Now its Christ that lives in the believer. That part is God.

Now which part of you will go to heaven? Christ part, or the old nature part? The dead old you? or the New Man in you?

 

[jasoncran]

buddhism and christian and hinduism cant be intertwined, as the latter and the first are polythiesm(hinduism) and the first is a philosophy that says that there no salvation from Buddha, he cant save you.

Christianity at its core is monotheistic, and doesnt accept reincarnation at all unlike the buddhism and hinduism, Christians are allowed to eat meat, and that god we serve isnt in all, all things cant be god,
if that's the case then the cross(the core of our faith is meaningless). Each person then can have his own version of right and wrong and there's no moral absolute, and Jesus said I AM THE WAY THE LIFE AND THE TRUTH.

That being said there can surely now, be no intertwining of the hinduism and buddism or new age with the christian doctrine in the bible.

jason

 

[bodhitharta]

So, the beauty of God has transcended my soul and The Holy Spirit of God fills my heart, He has given me the fulness of The Spirit without measure, God is in my flesh.

Am I God?

If not, why not?

Because your body can never be God. He Who indwells us is God and that part of us is God. Unless we have another gospel. You were born a "son of man" and all sons of men, have the capacity to receive the Son of God in their spirit. That part of you is not the same as your unsaved neighbor who is just still a "son of man"

Our old man (meaning: our old sinful nature) has been crucified . Its dead. Its no longer alive. Why? Because that is what the Bible say. We have been crucified with Christ and no longer live. Now its Christ that lives in the believer. That part is God.

Now which part of you will go to heaven? Christ part, or the old nature part? The dead old you? or the New Man in you?

Then why is it said that Jesus is God? Wasn't God in his flesh as He is in mine?

 

[Sparkey]

So, the beauty of God has transcended my soul and The Holy Spirit of God fills my heart, He has given me the fulness of The Spirit without measure, God is in my flesh.

If you are a god, fine. If you are delusional? Also fine, kindly accept my condolences.
That's not what you asked though, is it?
Did you say that unto YOU the Holy Spirit is poured out without measure?
Prove it. You're the one making the claim.
I am certain that you can understand that some won't accept your every word as "Gospel".
It actually sounds like blasphemy even though it is cloaked as "dark saying" or riddle and enigma.

My guess is that you are Socrates but your failed attempt at the Socratic Method disproves even that.

Your failure to prove your statements on a scriptural basis also speaks for itself.

~Sparrow

 

[Cornelius]

So, the beauty of God has transcended my soul and The Holy Spirit of God fills my heart, He has given me the fulness of The Spirit without measure, God is in my flesh.

Am I God?

If not, why not?

Because your body can never be God. He Who indwells us is God and that part of us is God. Unless we have another gospel. You were born a "son of man" and all sons of men, have the capacity to receive the Son of God in their spirit. That part of you is not the same as your unsaved neighbor who is just still a "son of man"

Our old man (meaning: our old sinful nature) has been crucified . Its dead. Its no longer alive. Why? Because that is what the Bible say. We have been crucified with Christ and no longer live. Now its Christ that lives in the believer. That part is God.

Now which part of you will go to heaven? Christ part, or the old nature part? The dead old you? or the New Man in you?

Then why is it said that Jesus is God? Wasn't God in his flesh as He is in mine?

Jesus is the Word of God. That Word proceeded from the Father and became flesh. God is His Word and the Word is God. 1Jn 1:1 That which was from the beginning, that which we have heard, that which we have seen with our eyes, that which we beheld, and our hands handled, concerning the Word of life
1Jn 1:2 (and the life was manifested, and we have seen, and bear witness, and declare unto you the life, the eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us);

Christians receive the Word into their spirits. That Word is the Word of Life. Jesus is the manifestation of the Word, and that Word is God.

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

See? Even though the Word was WITH God it was also God.

As Christians we too must become the Word. We eat it (read it) and it becomes part of us. It changes us, when we submit to it. That is called being born from above (rebirth) We are changed into the image of that Word which is Jesus. Slowly as we submit to the Word, we change more and more and become more like the Word which we submit to. That Word is God . So in that manner HE lives in those, who believe His Word .

We become part of Him through this.

Jesus calls Himself "bread" that came from heaven. This is the Word we eat.....His "flesh". His life eternal is in the Word (flesh) and it brings life eternal to those who drink that "blood" which is in the flesh/bread/Word
Joh 6:51 I am the living bread which came down out of heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: yea and the bread which I will give is my flesh, for the life of the world.

So God only lives in us up to the point in which His creation accepts His Word, and submits to it.

No less, and no more.

C

 

[bodhitharta]

So, the beauty of God has transcended my soul and The Holy Spirit of God fills my heart, He has given me the fulness of The Spirit without measure, God is in my flesh.

Am I God?

If not, why not?

If you are a god, fine.
That's not what you asked though, is it?
Did you say that unto YOU the Holy Spirit is poured out without measure?
Prove it. You're the one making the claim.
I certain that you can understand that "we" don't accept your every word as "Gospel".
It actually sounds like blasphemy even though it is cloaked as "dark saying" or riddle and enigma.

My guess is that you are Socrates but your failed attempt at the Socratic Method disproves even that.

Your failure to prove your statements on a scriptural basis speaks for itself.

~Sparrow

John 3:33-35 (King James Version)

33He that hath received his testimony hath set to his seal that God is true.

34For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him.

35The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand.

Luke 11:12-14 (King James Version)

12Or if he shall ask an egg, will he offer him a scorpion?

13If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?

 

[bodhitharta]

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

See? Even though the Word was WITH God it was also God.


C

So then to be a Co-heir with Jesus is to be God?

 

[Sparkey]

Jesus is the Omega, not us.

So, the beauty of God has transcended my soul and The Holy Spirit of God fills my heart, He has given me the fulness of The Spirit without measure, God is in my flesh.

Am I God?

If not, why not?

If you are a god, fine.
That's not what you asked though, is it?
Did you say that unto YOU the Holy Spirit is poured out without measure?
Prove it. You're the one making the claim.
I certain that you can understand that "we" don't accept your every word as "Gospel".
It actually sounds like blasphemy even though it is cloaked as "dark saying" or riddle and enigma.

My guess is that you are Socrates but your failed attempt at the Socratic Method disproves even that.

Your failure to prove your statements on a scriptural basis speaks for itself.

~Sparrow

John 3:34 (King James Version)
34For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him.

Fallacy of the antecedent - unto whom? Unto he whom God hath sent, that is, unto Jesus. The Bible does not declare that anybody who reads the bible is automatically filled without measure. Your interpretation is absurd; you may not insist that "he who speaks the words" is God. That's wrong.

Now stop the attempted sophistry.

 

[Cornelius]

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

See? Even though the Word was WITH God it was also God.


C

So then to be a Co-heir with Jesus is to be God?

Does that scare you What did Jesus say ?

Joh 10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, ye are gods?
Joh 10:35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came (and the scripture cannot be broken),
Joh 10:36 say ye of him, whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?

Is it YOU that the scripture speaks about , or the One who lives IN you?

New Age does this little dance about "we are God" , but Christians say: No more I that live, but Christ that liveth IN ME Almost sounds the same, but huge difference. In one, the "I" becomes God and in the other the "I" dies and God gets to live in and through them.

 

[Heneni]

Does that scare you What did Jesus say ?

Joh 10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, ye are gods?
Joh 10:35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came (and the scripture cannot be broken),
Joh 10:36 say ye of him, whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?

Is it YOU that the scripture speaks about , or the One who lives IN you?

New Age does this little dance about "we are God" , but Christians say: No more I that live, but Christ that liveth IN ME Almost sounds the same, but huge difference. In one, the "I" becomes God and in the other the "I" dies and God gets to live in and through them.

Well said. Also one cannot possibly call himself god unless he has the same exact glory of god. We were made in the image of god, not in his glory. Creation only reflects part of his glory, and in that its also only a reflection not the actual glory. So even though man is created in the image of god he is not created with the same glory of god. And so, no, humans will never be god.

Heneni

 

[bodhitharta]

Re: Jesus is the Omega, not us.

Fallacy of the antecedent - unto whom? Unto he whom God hath sent, that is, unto Jesus. The Bible does not declare that anybody who reads the bible is automatically filled without measure. Your interpretation is absurd; you may not insist that "he who speaks the words" is God. That's wrong.

Now stop the attempted sophistry.

God sent Moses and he called Moses "God" so was/is Moses God?


Exodus 7
1 And the LORD said unto Moses, See, I have made thee a god to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet.

Exodus 4:16 (New King James Version)
16 So he shall be your spokesman to the people. And he himself shall be as a mouth for you, and you shall be to him as God.

Can I insist it now, since scripture backs up what I am saying?

 

[bodhitharta]

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

See? Even though the Word was WITH God it was also God.


C

So then to be a Co-heir with Jesus is to be God?

Does that scare you What did Jesus say ?

Joh 10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, ye are gods?
Joh 10:35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came (and the scripture cannot be broken),
Joh 10:36 say ye of him, whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?

Is it YOU that the scripture speaks about , or the One who lives IN you?

New Age does this little dance about "we are God" , but Christians say: No more I that live, but Christ that liveth IN ME Almost sounds the same, but huge difference. In one, the "I" becomes God and in the other the "I" dies and God gets to live in and through them.

When Jesus quoted the scripture "Ye are gods" he wasn't talking about Christ inside of those he was referring to because they were called gods before Jesus was sent so Jesus says to whom the word of God came were called gods

Psalm 82:5-7 (King James Version)
6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.

The scripture cannot be wrong according to Jesus. Now if those referred to as gods are not God then how is it you call Jesus "God"? Now I understand that God was with Jesus so how does that make Jesus "God" but not Moses, Elijah, Elisha or any other men of God?


So either Jesus is a Man approved by God and anointed by God like these other men or all these men of God to whom the word of God was in are also God, which is it?


Even if you say Jesus is 100% God and 100% Man the same thing applies.

 

[bodhitharta]

Does that scare you What did Jesus say ?

Joh 10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, ye are gods?
Joh 10:35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came (and the scripture cannot be broken),
Joh 10:36 say ye of him, whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?

Is it YOU that the scripture speaks about , or the One who lives IN you?

New Age does this little dance about "we are God" , but Christians say: No more I that live, but Christ that liveth IN ME Almost sounds the same, but huge difference. In one, the "I" becomes God and in the other the "I" dies and God gets to live in and through them.

Well said. Also one cannot possibly call himself god unless he has the same exact glory of god. We were made in the image of god, not in his glory. Creation only reflects part of his glory, and in that its also only a reflection not the actual glory. So even though man is created in the image of god he is not created with the same glory of god. And so, no, humans will never be god.

Heneni

But Jesus was Human and you call him God

 

[jasoncran]

that word god implies that the miracles he will do will seem to make him like God, see Daniel and the story of Joseph in Genesis. But the glory of all that belongs to God the father.Jesus was called a blasphemer cause he called himself the Son of God, and he thought it not robbery to be equal with God.

Jesus was either a liar or loon if all men are god as you say. He is the only one who has the name above all names and is worthy of worship. He was fully God and man when he was on the earth, and was recieved up into heaven and given the Glory of the father.

jason

 

[jasoncran]

when christ was seen in heaven by john in revalation 1, what was John's reaction to fall on his face and when i did that to the angels he was not to, for they were fellow serveants. Only christ has the Glory not man or angel.

jason

 

[Ret]

Jesus was either a liar or loon if all men are god as you say. He is the only one who has the name above all names and is worthy of worship. He was fully God and man when he was on the earth, and was recieved up into heaven and given the Glory of the father.

jason

• 1 Corinthians 8:5 For though there be that are called gods,
  whether in heaven or on earth; as there are gods many, and lords many;
  
  6 yet to us there is one God, the Father, of whom are all things,
  and we unto him; and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all things,
  and we through him. ASV

gods many and lords many.... VS .... one God and one Lord.....

Are we of the MANY...? OR of the ONE....?

 

[jasoncran]

that corinthian verse is refeering to the false gods. ie Baal, Zeus, Diana, and so on, the lords is refeering to the earthly kings and princes and the caeser of Rome, it was common in the Levant area for a king to proclaim king of kings and lord of lords.

jason

 

[bodhitharta]

that word god implies that the miracles he will do will seem to make him like God, see Daniel and the story of Joseph in Genesis. But the glory of all that belongs to God the father.Jesus was called a blasphemer cause he called himself the Son of God, and he thought it not robbery to be equal with God.

Jesus was either a liar or loon if all men are god as you say. He is the only one who has the name above all names and is worthy of worship. He was fully God and man when he was on the earth, and was recieved up into heaven and given the Glory of the father.

jason

If the men of God are "God in the flesh" why would Jesus be a liar or a loon?

 

[Free]

Jesus is the only one who is God in human flesh, God incarnate.