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GODS ten commandments

Doing iniquity is talked about in the old and new testament. Just what is doing iniquity? Everything ive found comes back to the keeping of Gods commandments

PSALM 94 [11] The Lord knoweth the thoughts of man, that they are vanity. [12] Blessed is the man whom thou chastenest, O Lord, and teachest him out of thy law; [13] That thou mayest give him rest from the days of adversity, until the pit be digged for the wicked. [14] For the Lord will not cast off his people, neither will he forsake his inheritance. [15] But judgment shall return unto righteousness: and all the upright in heart shall follow it. [16] WHO WILL RISE UP FOR ME AGAINST THE EVILDOERS? OR WHO WILL STAND UP FOR ME AGAINST THE WORKERS OF INIQUITY?

LEV.5 [17] And if a soul sin, and commit any of these things which are forbidden to be done by the commandments of the LORD; though he wist it not, yet is he guilty, and shall bear his iniquity.

Break commandments=iniquity

NUMBERS 15 [31] Because he hath despised the word of the LORD, and hath broken his commandment, that soul shall utterly be cut off; his iniquity shall be upon him.

Break commandments=iniquity

PSALMS 89 [30] If his children forsake my law, and walk not in my judgments;[31] If they break my statutes, and keep not my commandments;[32] Then will I visit their transgression with the rod, and their iniquity with stripes.

Break commandments=iniquity

MATT.7 [21] Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.[22] Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?[23] And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Ye that work iniquity=I never knew you

1 JOHN 2 [1] My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: [2] And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world. [3] AND HEREBY WE DO KNOW THAT WE KNOW HIM, IF WE KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS. [4] He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

Theres the children that know the Lord.

JEREMIAH 16 [9] For thus saith the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel; Behold, I will cause to cease out of this place in your eyes, and in your days, the voice of mirth, and the voice of gladness, the voice of the bridegroom, and the voice of the bride. [10] And it shall come to pass, when thou shalt shew this people all these words, and they shall say unto thee, Wherefore hath the Lord pronounced all this great evil against us? or WHAT IS OUR INIQUITY? or what is our sin that we have committed against the Lord our God? [11] Then shalt thou say unto them, Because your fathers have forsaken me, saith the Lord, and have walked after other gods, and have served them, and have worshipped them, AND HAVE FORSAKEN ME, AND HAVE NOT KEPT MY LAW;

Verses 14 and 15 of this chapter in Jeremiah speaks of the gathering of Gods people (in the twinkling of an eye) to the 1000 yr period of rest (go read it). At that time, the many (Matt.7) will ask “what is our iniquityâ€Â. The answer given will be simple. You have not kept MY law. Gods 10 commandments.
 
I don't if you are meaning to say this; but some of you seem to be saying: "Since we sin anyway, we may as well not follow the The Ten Commandments, because Jesus died for our sins anyway". This is in error!! Just because Jesus died for all your sins, does not give a person free reign to keep sinning. You must repent!!
The posts in favor and against the Ten Commandments are very well written but I am writing in simple English- You can't keep on sinning delibrately! A person in Christ will not sin delibrately. We will sin sometimes because our flesh is weak, and we do fall into temptation at times, but that does not mean we can do whatever we want at all times. Yes, Jesus died for our sins, and yes he will forgive all sin (less blasphemy of the Holy Spirit), but is one a true Christian if he continues to sin? That is something to think about.
Good day and God bless you.
 
Hello ChistineES
And what does the bible (NEW TESTAMENT) say that sin is?

1 John 3:4
Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

Ive heard a lot of talk saying we no longer need to follow Gods 10 commandments but where are the scriptures to back up that talk. No where in the new testament do you find that its OK for man to changed Gods sabbath day. And yet thats what the "many" believe. When you do not keep Gods sabbath day (the 4th commandment) are you sinning? Are you transgressing the law?
 
I think, Reckon Sow, that the Sabbath is the big thing here. I believe,(and I have no scripture to back this up, so don't ask) that God requires us to take one day of rest out of 7.
A couple of years ago my husband had a job with a taxi. He worked 7 days a week, 12 hours a day. His morale sank through the floor, he was impossible to get along with. He finally quit that job. In his new job, he had one day off from work; a day where he could refresh himself, hence being easier to get along with.
I think that is what God had in mind when He made the Sabbath! Jesus said that God made the Sabbath for us, not for Himself. I also don't really think it matters which day you take off, as long as it is one day a week. Or if one prefers it to be Saturday, then that is fine, too.
 
Christine,

What you offer 'sounds' good, but the fact of the matter is that one 'particular' day was set aside for the Jews to 'keep holy'. That day was the Sabbath and it was 'the LAST day of the seven day week.

I find it amazing that some that have so much knowledge of the Word have chosen to ignore the parts that don't 'suit' them.

Klee, you have done an exellent job trying to point out the 'truth' and it seems that there are those that are unwilling to accept it regardless.

I will ask this from ANYONE that believes that 'we' are bound by the written law; Are YOU able to uphold THE LAW? I mean COMPLETELY. I personally believe that we ALL disobey the written law completely, if not through our literal 'actions' then through out thoughts and feelings. For Christ said to EVEN think these things is to DO them in our hearts.

If we are bound by the written law then we are bound to the sacrifices and punishments for our disobedience to them. No two ways about it.

I choose the freedom offered through the sacrifice made by God and His Son. I am NOT a Jew and was NEVER bound by these laws to begin with. Shall I then make an effort to abandon the Law for the 'sake' of sin? NO WAY, I am MORE accountable NOW than the Jews EVER were. But I am NOT bound to a law written in stone, but the law that is now written IN MY HEART. How do I KNOW this Law? Through the SPIRIT of God. AND, where there was ONCE death for disobedience to the written law, I now have freedome FROM THAT DEATH through the Blood of Jesus Christ.

We are BOUND by what is in our hearts. So, I would say that if the Spirit dwelleth NOT within you, you CERTAINLY NEED the written law. But, once one accepts Christ into their hearts and knows Christ and the Father personally, there is NO MORE NEED for a written law. Here's how Christ summed it up folks. When ask about the MOST important law, His answer was to LOVE God with all your heart, mind and soul. The second, love your neighbor AS yourself. And He didn't stop there. He went on to state that 'all the law, and all the prophets HANG ON THESE TWO. Now, all it takes to understand where WE stand under the law is a simple understanding of what is stated here.

God Bless

MEC
 
Being bound by the Ten Commandments is NOT the same as being bound by The Law!! The Law was full of rituals, such as cleansing yourself after you have touched a dead body, or a woman sleeping outside the camp during menses and so on. I repeat, it seems that people don't want to follow the Ten Commandments because of The Holy Sabbath. The Ten Commandments have not been eliminated just so you can work on Saturday or whatever. I have said my peace, anything else (outside of a specific question) would just be redundant on my part. You know what I believe, and now I move on to another discussion. 8-)
God bless you.
 
Imagican said:
I choose the freedom offered through the sacrifice made by God and His Son. I am NOT a Jew and was NEVER bound by these laws to begin with. Shall I then make an effort to abandon the Law for the 'sake' of sin? NO WAY, I am MORE accountable NOW than the Jews EVER were. But I am NOT bound to a law written in stone, but the law that is now written IN MY HEART. How do I KNOW this Law? Through the SPIRIT of God. AND, where there was ONCE death for disobedience to the written law, I now have freedome FROM THAT DEATH through the Blood of Jesus Christ.
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HEBREWS 8 [8] For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make A NEW COVENANT WITH THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL AND WITH THE HOUSE OF JUDAH: [9] Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord. [10] For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people: [11] And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: FOR ALL SHALL KNOW ME, FROM THE LEAST TO THE GREATEST. [12] For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more. [13] In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now THAT WHICH DECAYETH AND WAXETH OLD IS READY TO VANISH away.

Verse 10. I will write my laws in their heart. I don’t see a gentile mentioned anywhere in the above scripture Imagican. You say your not a jew and are not bound by your creators laws. Why do you think now the above scripture pertains to you? That covenant is to be made with the House of Israel and Judah.

Anyways this covenant is not yet here. This was written after Christ had risen and this scripture says that when God does make this new covenant, everyone shall know the Lord. Majican, does every man on this earth know the Lord from the least to the greatest? No. And if that aint enough, verse 13 says “Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish awayâ€Â. Again keep in mind that this was written after Christ had risen and the scripture clearly says that the old covenant is ready to vanish away. Not that it has. Also if God did write His laws in your heart, you'd be keeping them. Even His sabbath day.

JEREMIAH 31 [31] Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: [32] Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the Lord: [33] But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I WILL PUT MY LAW IN THEIR INWARD PARTS, AND WRITE IT IN THEIR HEARTS; AND WILL BE THEIR GOD, AND THEY SHALL BE MY PEOPLE.

So at what point in time (according to scripture) does this covenant arrive?

JEREMIAH 32 [37] Behold, I WILL GATHER THEM OUT OF ALL COUNTRIES, whither I have driven them in mine anger, and in my fury, and in great wrath; and I will bring them again unto this place, and I will cause them to dwell safely: [38] And THEY SHALL BE MY PEOPLE, AND I WILL BE THEIR GOD: [39] And I WILL GIVE THEM ONE HEART, and one way, that they may fear me for ever, for the good of them, and of their children after them: [40] And I will make an everlasting covenant with them, that I will not turn away from them, to do them good; but I will put my fear in their hearts, that they shall not depart from me.

Yeah. After the gathering to the 1000 yr period of rest(in the twinkling of an eye).
 
I have looked up several laws in Exodus and Leviticus about the Sabbath. It says the "seventh" day. It says nothing about which the seventh day is. If we start the week on Monday, then it will be Sunday, or if we start the week on Wednesday, then it will be Tuesday.
I am posting the 4th commandment so you can see it for yourself. It says Sabbath, it does not say that Saturday is necessarily Sabbath.
Exo 20:8 Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.
20:9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work.
Exo 20:10 But the seventh day is the Sabbath of Jehovah your God. You shall not do any work, you, nor your son, nor your daughter, your manservant, nor your maidservant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger within your gates.
Exo 20:11 For in six days Jehovah made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore Jehovah blessed the Sabbath day, and sanctified it.
 
ChristineES said:
I have looked up several laws in Exodus and Leviticus about the Sabbath. It says the "seventh" day. It says nothing about which the seventh day is. If we start the week on Monday, then it will be Sunday, or if we start the week on Wednesday, then it will be Tuesday.
I am posting the 4th commandment so you can see it for yourself. It says Sabbath, it does not say that Saturday is necessarily Sabbath.
Exo 20:8 Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.
20:9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work.
Exo 20:10 But the seventh day is the Sabbath of Jehovah your God. You shall not do any work, you, nor your son, nor your daughter, your manservant, nor your maidservant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger within your gates.
Exo 20:11 For in six days Jehovah made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore Jehovah blessed the Sabbath day, and sanctified it.
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It DOES tell us clearly in Genesis that the 7th-day was the last day of the weekly cycle. If you check your calendar you'll see that that particular day is Saturday. We only need to go back 2000 years to Jesus' day to see that Saturday is indeed the 7th-day. The 7th-day sabbath has been practiced diligently by the Jews since (and before) that time.

While the calendar HAS been modified during that period of time, the actual sequence of days has remained the same. And, just because the days have since been given specific names and not just listed numerically as in the scriptures doesn't change the sequence either. In fact, some languages even name the 7th-day the eqivalent of 'Sabbath'.

Just think about it, Christine. Would God bless and sanctify a specific day only to have that day lost somewhere in the mists of time? I think not.
 
Imagican said:
Christine,

What you offer 'sounds' good, but the fact of the matter is that one 'particular' day was set aside for the Jews to 'keep holy'. That day was the Sabbath and it was 'the LAST day of the seven day week.

I find it amazing that some that have so much knowledge of the Word have chosen to ignore the parts that don't 'suit' them.

Klee, you have done an exellent job trying to point out the 'truth' and it seems that there are those that are unwilling to accept it regardless.

I will ask this from ANYONE that believes that 'we' are bound by the written law; Are YOU able to uphold THE LAW? I mean COMPLETELY. I personally believe that we ALL disobey the written law completely, if not through our literal 'actions' then through out thoughts and feelings. For Christ said to EVEN think these things is to DO them in our hearts.

If we are bound by the written law then we are bound to the sacrifices and punishments for our disobedience to them. No two ways about it.

I choose the freedom offered through the sacrifice made by God and His Son. I am NOT a Jew and was NEVER bound by these laws to begin with. Shall I then make an effort to abandon the Law for the 'sake' of sin? NO WAY, I am MORE accountable NOW than the Jews EVER were. But I am NOT bound to a law written in stone, but the law that is now written IN MY HEART. How do I KNOW this Law? Through the SPIRIT of God. AND, where there was ONCE death for disobedience to the written law, I now have freedome FROM THAT DEATH through the Blood of Jesus Christ.

We are BOUND by what is in our hearts. So, I would say that if the Spirit dwelleth NOT within you, you CERTAINLY NEED the written law. But, once one accepts Christ into their hearts and knows Christ and the Father personally, there is NO MORE NEED for a written law. Here's how Christ summed it up folks. When ask about the MOST important law, His answer was to LOVE God with all your heart, mind and soul. The second, love your neighbor AS yourself. And He didn't stop there. He went on to state that 'all the law, and all the prophets HANG ON THESE TWO. Now, all it takes to understand where WE stand under the law is a simple understanding of what is stated here.
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Those of old were no more capable of keeping the law without the Holy Spirit residing in them than we are now. The 'spirit' of the law was NEVER the keeping of the 'written' or 'the letter of' the law.

As a matter of interest, loving one's neighbor as oneself is not merely a New Testament command. It can be found in Leviticus 19:18. And, 'loving God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength' is there as clear as day in Deuteronomy 6:5-6. It isn't just found in the NT as some 'new' commandment for we of today. That particular text finishes with, "These commandments that I give you today are to be written upon your hearts."

Furthermore, here is anther familiar New Testament passage that is also found in the OT. " . . .I will put my law in their minds and write it on their hearts ..." That particular passage is found in Jeremiah 31:33. So, apart from the sacrificial and ceremonial laws that pointed to Jesus having now been abolished, what's new to us NT 'privileged' ones that wasn't ALREADY in place for the OT 'not so privileged' ones?
 
I give up on this one. I stand with my belief. You, like the Pharisees, think that Sabbath is for God and not for men. Jesus said differently. He told us that God made the Sabbath for men.

Mar 2:27 And He said to them, The sabbath came into being for man's sake, and not man for the sabbath's sake.

If that is so, that Sabbath is for man's sake, then why does it matter what day you have your Sabbath?
In a Utopia, then we could all have our Sabbath on Saturday (7th day) or Sunday (which is also the 7th day).(Some people say Sunday is the first day of the week, but others say that Monday is the first day of the week) But in this day and age people have to go to work when their jobs tell them to, or they will not have a job. So we have to have our day off, (a Sabbath) on the day we can.
This is all I am going to say on the subject.
 
ChristineES said:
I give up on this one. I stand with my belief. You, like the Pharisees, think that Sabbath is for God and not for men. Jesus said differently. He told us that God made the Sabbath for men.

Mar 2:27 And He said to them, The sabbath came into being for man's sake, and not man for the sabbath's sake.

If that is so, that Sabbath is for man's sake, then why does it matter what day you have your Sabbath?
In a Utopia, then we could all have our Sabbath on Saturday (7th day) or Sunday (which is also the 7th day).(Some people say Sunday is the first day of the week, but others say that Monday is the first day of the week) But in this day and age people have to go to work when their jobs tell them to, or they will not have a job. So we have to have our day off, (a Sabbath) on the day we can.
This is all I am going to say on the subject.
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"So there!" Christine, hands on hips, stomps foot. :wink:

Christine, you can choose to worship Jesus on any day you see fit or not at all. It doesn't bother me personally and is, in fact, none of my business. All I am saying is that the Sabbath of the 4th-commandment is NOT Sunday. You can thank the RCC for THAT 'holy' day. Okay?
 
ChristineES said:
I give up on this one. I stand with my belief. You, like the Pharisees, think that Sabbath is for God and not for men. Jesus said differently. He told us that God made the Sabbath for men.
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Soo... if you believe God made the sabbath for man, why wouldnt you wanna keep (hold on to) (cherish) this day HE made for us. Why would you ignore that day God made for us and look for another made by man?
 
Earlier i had talked about those that practice iniquity. All scriptures, new and old all lead to the NOT keeping of Gods commandments. Well, lets look at those who practice righteousness. New and old testament. After all they both say the same thing.

1JOHN2 [28] And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming.[29] If ye know that he is righteous, YE KNOW THAT EVERY ONE THAT DOETH RIGHTEOUSNESS IS BORN OF HIM.

If ye know that he is righteous, ye know that every one that doeth righteousness is born of him. Talkin bout JESUS!

DEUT.6 [25] And it shall be our righteousness, if we observe to do all these commandments before the LORD our God, as he hath commanded us.

it shall be our righteousness, if we observe to do all these commandments. OBSERVE TO DO! We will fall short.

PSALM 119 [172] My tongue shall speak of thy word: for ALL THY COMMANDMENTS ARE RIGHTEOUSNESS.[173] Let thine hand help me; for I have chosen thy precepts.[174] I have longed for thy salvation, O LORD; and thy law is my delight.

For ALL thy commandments are righteousness (even the keeping of the sabbath). Also mentioned here is salvation. Being saved. Are you really listening to the VOICE? The VOICE will return. Look at "Day of the Lord" scriptures.

ISAIAH 48 [17] THUS SAITH THE LORD, THY REDEEMER, the Holy One of Israel; I am the LORD thy God which teacheth thee to profit, which leadeth thee by the way that thou shouldest go.[18] O THAT THOU HADST HEARKENED TO MY COMMANDMENTS! then had thy peace been as a river, and thy righteousness as the waves of the sea:

LORD-REDEEMER-HOLY ONE OF ISRAEL (no question as to who that is). The new testament says Jesus was the WORD of God that became flesh. The only WORD of God around when Jesus came was the old testament. In Isaiah OUR REDEEMER tells us we are to keep the commandments if we are to be righteous.

The new testament says the same thing the old testament said.

1COR.15 [34] AWAKE TO RIGHTEOUSNESS, AND SIN NOT; for some have not the knowledge of God: I speak this to your shame.

1 JOHN 3 [7] Little children, LET NO MAN DECEIVE YOU: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.[8] HE THAT COMMITTETH SIN IS OF THE DEVIL; for the devil sinneth from the beginning.

1 JOHN 3 [4] Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: FOR SIN IS THE TRANSGRESSION OF THE LAW.

LUKE 1 [6] And they were BOTH RIGHTEOUS BEFORE GOD, WALKING IN ALL THE COMMANDMENTS and ordinances of the Lord blameless.

PSALM 7 [6] ARISE, O LORD, in thine anger, lift up thyself because of the rage of mine enemies: and awake for me to the judgment that thou hast commanded.[7] So shall the congregation of the people compass thee about: for their sakes therefore return thou on high.[8] The LORD shall judge the people: JUDGE ME, O LORD, ACCORDING TO MY RIGHTEOUSNESS, and according to mine integrity that is in me.[9] Oh LET THE WICKEDNESS OF THE WICKED COME TO AN END; but establish the just: for the righteous God trieth the hearts and reins.

You have heard some people say that we will not be judged by our own righteousness. We only need believe in Jesus and his righteousness and nothing more. Psalm 7 speaks of the time when Christ shall return to this earth to judge the people. Read it for yourself. Its very clear.

1 PETER 4 [17] For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?[18] And IF THE RIGHTEOUS SCARCELY BE SAVED, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?

And if not for the gift of “grace†through faith no one would be saved for all have fallen short. Except of course, JESUS.

Believe the scriptures. In them is life. Believe the sunday mornin preacher boys.

EZEK.14 9] And if the prophet be deceived when he hath spoken a thing, I the LORD have deceived that prophet, and I will stretch out my hand upon him, and will destroy him from the midst of my people Israel.[10] And they shall bear the punishment of their iniquity: THE PUNISHMENT OF THE PROPHET SHALL BE EVEN AS THE PUNISHMENT OF HIM THAT SEEKETH UNTO HIM;
 
I Reckon Sow said:
ChristineES said:
I give up on this one. I stand with my belief. You, like the Pharisees, think that Sabbath is for God and not for men. Jesus said differently. He told us that God made the Sabbath for men.
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Soo... if you believe God made the sabbath for man, why wouldnt you wanna keep (hold on to) (cherish) this day HE made for us. Why would you ignore that day God made for us and look for another made by man?
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I do keep it. :) I can keep on Saturday. I can't speak for anyone else. :wink: But weren't all days made by God?
 
I do keep it. :) I can keep on Saturday. I can't speak for anyone else. :wink: But weren't all days made by God?
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The Creator is responsible for not only creating the weekly cycle but also the Sacred Calendar system he gave us in His word.

The fact about the seventh day of the week is that it is the only weekly day that God blessed and made holy by sanctifying it.

For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it (Ex. 20:11, cf. Gen. 2:3).

May I ask how you keep the Sabbath day holy, which sets it apart from all the other days of the week as God instructed?

R7-12
 
ChristineES said:
Being bound by the Ten Commandments is NOT the same as being bound by The Law!! The Law was full of rituals, such as cleansing yourself after you have touched a dead body, or a woman sleeping outside the camp during menses and so on. I repeat, it seems that people don't want to follow the Ten Commandments because of The Holy Sabbath. The Ten Commandments have not been eliminated just so you can work on Saturday or whatever. I have said my peace, anything else (outside of a specific question) would just be redundant on my part. You know what I believe, and now I move on to another discussion. 8-)
God bless you.
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Christine,

You have obviously read the OT. Now, I ask you, WHICH day IS the Sabbath? And, do YOU personally obey ALL the 'law' of the Sabbath?
 
ChristineES said:
I give up on this one. I stand with my belief. You, like the Pharisees, think that Sabbath is for God and not for men. Jesus said differently. He told us that God made the Sabbath for men.

Mar 2:27 And He said to them, The sabbath came into being for man's sake, and not man for the sabbath's sake.

If that is so, that Sabbath is for man's sake, then why does it matter what day you have your Sabbath?
In a Utopia, then we could all have our Sabbath on Saturday (7th day) or Sunday (which is also the 7th day).(Some people say Sunday is the first day of the week, but others say that Monday is the first day of the week) But in this day and age people have to go to work when their jobs tell them to, or they will not have a job. So we have to have our day off, (a Sabbath) on the day we can.
This is all I am going to say on the subject.
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First of all, WHO was the 'written law' written TO? Now, wouldn't it stand to reason that those that were originally 'given' the written law would KNOW which day was the Sabbath? It has been observed by these people since it's introduction.

NO one that I know believes that the last day of the week is Sunday. It IS the FIRST day of the week on any calandar and is taught from kintergarten that this is so.

And NO, a person who IS BOUND by the LAW does NOT have to work on Saturday. That they CHOOSE to is of no consequence to the LAW. Boy, you just choose to 'have it your way' as if you were at Burger King. The truth is that we are NO longer bound by the Sabbath Law. EVERY DAY is God's day to those that understand this. Are we to ONLY worship God ONE day of the week? Is there ANYTHING WRONG with doing RIGHT on ANY day of the week? Are you Jewish Christine? Then the Sabbath was NEVER given to you to start with. So many people believe that because they have a Bible in their hands that EVERYTHING written in it was written to 'them'. WRONG. The Jews were connected to a covenant that the Gentiles NEVER were. We, (Gentiles), were NOT under the 'written law', for it was NEVER given to us. Christ is a Separate covenant wherein the Gentiles were made heirs ALSO. BUT, without the 'law' as given to the Jews as a 'teacher'. Once man was able to accept the Spirit of God within their hearts, once the redeemer was risen, man was NO longer bound to the 'written law'.

Now, you may CHOOSE to be bound, so be it. But what you choose in your heart is WHAT you will be judged by. The written law was a burden that we have been freed from if we so choose to follow God's will through His Son. Beware, for if you choose and teach others to FOLLOW the written law, you are CERTAINLY bound by it. EVERY SINGLE BIT OF IT. For to break but the LEAST of these is to be GUILTY of them ALL.
 
Imagican said:
Christine,

You have obviously read the OT. Now, I ask you, WHICH day IS the Sabbath? And, do YOU personally obey ALL the 'law' of the Sabbath?
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I am quite certain that I already answered that question. Saturday is the Sabbath. I go to Church on Sunday because that is when the services are,but Sunday is not actually Sabbath. I worship God every day.
If it is possible the Sabbath is Saturday. Sabbath in the bible is defined as a day of rest, after 6 days of labor. If a person must work on Saturday because he or she has to, I believe (although this a personal belief not from the Bible) that they can have their personal day of rest on another day. But if one does NOT have to work on Saturday, then he/she should have their Sabbath on Saturday. I hope that clarifies what I am trying to say.

As for what I do on The Sabbath, that is my business. Since Jesus said He was The Lord of even The Sabbath, then it is only fitting that I worship God in a way that glorifies Him.
The Pharisees were angry because Jesus healed men on the Sabbath. Jesus said many things about that that are written in the NT. Healing on the Sabbath to the Pharisees was a sin, but Jesus said likewise. Jesus said such things as if a lamb of theirs were to fall in a hole on the Sabbath, wouldn't they pull it out? In other words, I don't think God meant for us to just sit around and do nothing on The Sabbath.
Do you think if I cook dinner on Saturday, that is a sin? How about if I decide to take a walk in the woods? Would that be labor? If I could sing (I don't have a good voice), would singing on The Sabbath be a sin? I don't think that is what God meant. He made Sabbath, according to my beliefs, a day where one can refresh him or herself for the daily grind.
 
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