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Deborah13 said:
Like seeing Mount Moriah. The names being symbolic for somewhere else or some condition. I think.
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Matthew 10:28 says "Fear the one who can destroy both body and soul in Gehenna". If Gehenna is symbolic, and Jesus said that the body and soul will be destroyed there, what do you think Gehenna is symbolic of?
(By the way, I agree that Gehenna IS symbolic. It is symbolic of total destruction.)
 
TimothyW said:
Matthew 10:28 says "Fear the one who can destroy both body and soul in Gehenna". If Gehenna is symbolic, and Jesus said that the body and soul will be destroyed there, what do you think Gehenna is symbolic of?
(By the way, I agree that Gehenna IS symbolic. It is symbolic of total destruction.)
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I have to admit I cannot discuss all of what I think because it wouldn't be something God has clearly revealed to me and it's such a serious subject, it can be detrimental to others salvation.
If I were witnessing to someone and they asked me that question right now I would say that I have always believed in an eternal punishment where the soul is in an actual terrible place, not just non-existent. But to give a description of that place all I could say is that it is a place no one will want to be.
 
I can see this thread has the potential to rapidly deteriorate just as the previous like it have. How about we approach this discussion with the idea of providing educational information to help each other learn and grow in our faith rather trying so hard to belittle or discredit the opposition. We are all Christians in this discussion but we are not all at the same place of maturity in our walk with the Lord. Let's be respectful and remember that the one that may have a misunderstanding could be ourselves. Defense of the gospel (apologetic) does not mean put the other person down.
 
What Jesus drank from that cup "is the gospel" a friend of mine in Texas asked his congregation that question a few years ago.. a 9 year old girl stood up and answered it when no one else could or would..

tob
 
turnorburn said:
What Jesus drank from that cup "is the gospel" a friend of mine in Texas asked his congregation that question a few years ago.. a 9 year old girl stood up and answered it when no one else could or would..

tob
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Sounds like an answer reflective of scripture, considering the "sharing" of that cup He mentioned.
 
turnorburn said:
What Jesus drank from that cup "is the gospel" a friend of mine in Texas asked his congregation that question a few years ago.. a 9 year old girl stood up and answered it when no one else could or would..

tob
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Sorry tob, but now would you please explain how this answer is an answer to what I asked? I don't see how believing in annihilation makes the gospel of no effect. This is a serious matter and I am trying to understand. :neutral
 
turnorburn said:
Anhialationism is a doctrine of devils that makes the cross of Christ and his sufferings of no effect..

tob
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I disagree. Annihilationism is merely stating what the Bible itself says about the fate of the lost.
"Though the wicked spring up like grass and all evildoers flourish, they will be destroyed forever." Psalm 92:7
 
Drinking wine doesn't produce this effect Timothy..

Luke 22:44 And being in an agony he prayed more earnestly: and his sweat was as it were great drops of blood falling down to the ground.

tob

This is the reason you don't understand maybe that 9 year old in Texas is the only one that did..
 
turnorburn said:
Drinking wine doesn't produce this effect Timothy..

Luke 22:44 And being in an agony he prayed more earnestly: and his sweat was as it were great drops of blood falling down to the ground.

tob

This is the reason you don't understand maybe that 9 year old in Texas is the only one that did..
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Hello Tob.
I don't think it was the wine in the cup that caused Him to sweat.
You asked what was in the cup that Jesus drank. It was probably wine. The Bible doesn't give any indication that the cup contained poison.

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I've heard arguments from many people. Its narrowed down to we sleep in the grave till the end time. There is a real hell in different ways. And some have strong belief one way or the other, is it bad to be waiting in the middle with no belief one way over the other? The arguments are very good going both ways. And somethings are better not said.
 
Here's something to consider, the Scriptures say that God gives life to everything that lives. Gives life is present tense. Scripture also says that if God retrieved His Neshamah and His ruach all flesh would die. If God gives life to everything that lives, it would stand to reason that if the dead were somehow alive in the Lake of Fire God would have to keep them alive. To me it is a mark against God's character to say He keeps people alive for no other reason than to be tormented and burned.
 
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tob, back in post 26 I asked you a question and you responded with a question.

That was a very bold statement. I can't imagine there is anything that can make the cross of no effect. So what were you really saying? Are you saying that the cross would have no effect for anyone, If annihilation is true? A simple yes or no answer would be appreciated. Thanks
 
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