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Congress is trying to slip in abortion drugs in the latest bill, called the National Defense Authorization Act


Thank God for women with some backbone, who will stand up for what is best for our nation and the unborn.


Rep. Boebert Issued A Statement Prior To Her Vote Against The National Defense Authorization​



After much consideration, I am going to vote no on the NDAA, the National Defense Authorization Act, and you need to know why. I love our military. I’m grateful for their service and sacrifice. Our brave service men and women didn’t fight for this liberal woke garbage of an agenda, and I didn’t come to Washington to put a rubber stamp on it either.

Unfortunately, Democrats politicized and jeopardized funding for our troops in the NDAA, legislation that has traditionally been very bipartisan.

But look, just last week, Republicans were calling for the resignations and impeachment of military leaders for their total incompetence. We all saw the tragedy in Afghanistan that killed 13 of our servicemembers and the drone strike that left innocent children dead. I won’t sign on to a bill that does nothing to address these failures. If the Biden regime isn’t going to take any responsibility, and if Nancy Pelosi isn’t going to allow Congress to pursue investigations, and if nobody is going to get fired over the Afghanistan debacle, then I am not going to vote to give the Democrats carte blanche to do that crap all over again.

There are provisions in this legislation that contain swampy earmarks, require us to cover abortion drugs, and require women to enter the draft. We are drafting our daughters. What does it say about a country that has to force its women into combat? The creation of useless offices and mandatory trainings to promote “wokeness” and diversity inclusion among our troops distracts from the national security mission of the armed services. And speaking of national security, the Democrats want to permanently close Guantanamo Bay. Yep, GITMO will be closed, releasing terrorists that are headed straight for our southern border, that we all know is wide open.

Pelosi’s NDAA unconstitutionally authorizes red flag laws and a new military court gun confiscation program that will strip our men and women in uniform of their firearms based on mere allegations. Punishing our troops who seek mental health services by taking their guns will only lead to more hesitancy and higher suicide rates than we have already seen. Those troops will take pause from seeking counseling. These partisan hacks also use this bill to create a new office to counter so-called “extremism” in the military that will target anyone who still believes in standing for the flag in the United States.

I submitted 6 amendments to this legislation, and none were allowed to receive a vote, or even debate for that matter.

I’ll be the first to say our military should always be fully funded. But they deserve better. Taxpayers deserve better. And that’s what I’ll continue to fight for every day.”



 

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If we can't cover the morning after pill, can we then cover programs for daycare, wic, foodstamps, medicareand etc for parents with children under 18?
 

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If we can't cover the morning after pill, can we then cover programs for daycare, wic, foodstamps, medicareand etc for parents with children under 18?

Why? The parents of those children are responsible for them.



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Then why is it's the government's responsibility to force women to carry potential children to term?


Why is it the government’s responsibility too force people to take an experimental vaccine?


These issues are to be determined among the individual states, where the people have chosen to live.




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Why is it the government’s responsibility too force people to take an experimental vaccine?


These issues are to be determined among the individual states, where the people have chosen to live.




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Ok, I see you are going to avoid answering the core questions and issues with your stance.

Ok, most research on the topic points to life style changes ( mostly monetary and medical) are the major contributors to abortion. If we want to limit and encourage behaviors on a societal level, we need to have societal infrastructure for it.

If you want to encourage people to have children, we need to make it stable to have children. Otherwise it's just an oppressive punative system that doesn't solve the core problems.
 

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Why? The parents of those children are responsible for them.



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So the eleven-year-old girl that became pregnant through incest is responsible for the baby? What about the thirty-year-old woman who was raped? Is she responsible for the child as well?

It is not as black and white as you make it out to be.

Yes, I am pro-choice. Always have been and always will be, even as a Christian.
 

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So the eleven-year-old girl that became pregnant through incest is responsible for the baby? What about the thirty-year-old woman who was raped? Is she responsible for the child as well?

It is not as black and white as you make it out to be.

Yes, I am pro-choice. Always have been and always will be, even as a Christian.


I never said anything was black and white.



Again, these are matters of each state, where people choose to live, not the decision of the Federal Government.


In the matter of the eleven year old girl who was raped through incest:

It’s questionable if the child is able to bring the pregnancy to full term, but if she is, the state has the choice to place the infant with an adoption agency as the parent is serving time in prison.


If the mother of the eleven year child who was raped by incest, decides to raise the infant, then that is her choice.


There may be many other extenuating circumstances involved which may present a host of other choices, none of which mandate the choice to murder an innocent unborn child.


You seem focused only on the choice of murdering the unborn infant, while excluding the many other choices available.


It seems “pro choice” means only 1 choice: murder







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I never said anything was black and white.



Again, these are matters of each state, where people choose to live, not the decision of the Federal Government.


In the matter of the eleven year old girl who was raped through incest:

It’s questionable if the child is able to bring the pregnancy to full term, but if she is, the state has the choice to place the infant with an adoption agency as the parent is serving time in prison.


If the mother of the eleven year child who was raped by incest, decides to raise the infant, then that is her choice.


There may be many other extenuating circumstances involved which may present a host of other choices, none of which mandate the choice to murder an innocent unborn child.


You seem focused only on the choice of murdering the unborn infant, while excluding the many other choices available.


It seems “pro choice” means only 1 choice: murder







JLB
The problem I have with your stance is that all responsibility is placed on the woman, but her bodily autonomy is completely removed. The legality of abortion had always laid in bodily autonomy.

It's always easy to dictate moral determinations when it's an issue that doesn't directly effect yourself.
 

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I never said anything was black and white.



Again, these are matters of each state, where people choose to live, not the decision of the Federal Government.


In the matter of the eleven year old girl who was raped through incest:

It’s questionable if the child is able to bring the pregnancy to full term, but if she is, the state has the choice to place the infant with an adoption agency as the parent is serving time in prison.


If the mother of the eleven year child who was raped by incest, decides to raise the infant, then that is her choice.


There may be many other extenuating circumstances involved which may present a host of other choices, none of which mandate the choice to murder an innocent unborn child.


You seem focused only on the choice of murdering the unborn infant, while excluding the many other choices available.


It seems “pro choice” means only 1 choice: murder







JLB

Not at all. Your view is as stated very black and white and that is what I was commenting on. I am aware of adoption and such, but I was trying to get you to think. Your narrow view of pro-choice is a problem. It in no way means pro-murder. It simply means, pro-choice.
 

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Not at all. Your view is as stated very black and white and that is what I was commenting on. I am aware of adoption and such, but I was trying to get you to think. Your narrow view of pro-choice is a problem. It in no way means pro-murder. It simply means, pro-choice.


The choice you are referring to is to murder an unborn child!


Why not put the child up for adoption?

Why not ask God what choice He desires to make?
 

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It's always easy to dictate moral determinations when it's an issue that doesn't directly effect yourself.

So let’s ask everyone involved.


The courts
The doctor
The other members of the family
The unborn child
 

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Why not ask God what choice He desires to make?

Not all who have an abortion are Christian.

Why not put the child up for adoption?

The woman who was raped may not want to carry the child of the monster who raped them. The eleven-year-old may not be able to as you said, carry the baby to term and it is better to abort before irreparable damage is done.
 

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Not all who have an abortion are Christian.


I get it.


Many women desire to have sex with many partners and just abort the child if they should accidentally get pregnant.
 

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I get it.


Many women desire to have sex with many partners and just abort the child if they should accidentally get pregnant.

Come on now! Have I mentioned that at all? I have given you examples. Not all women who get an abortion desire sex with many partners.

I don't believe in using abortion as a form of birth control which is what you are talking about.

Can we leave hyperbole out of it?
 
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