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How can this be?

MY question is what makes this trib the greatest.?

Mat 24:21-22 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

It seems to me that there will be millions, if not billions, of people killed at this time through wars, famines and pestilence.
 
Definitely not. That takes place AFTER the heavenly signs of the 6th seal. Yeshua said the tribulation ended BEFORE the heavenly signs (Mt 24:29).

Let's go back before the seals.
Rev.1:6,7
Hath made us kings and priests/
He cometh with clouds and every eye shall see Him, and they which pierced Him.
10,
I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, (I believe the day of the Lord) and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet.
So you are saying that the tribulation is after this?
 
Let's go back before the seals.
Rev.1:6,7
Hath made us kings and priests/
He cometh with clouds and every eye shall see Him, and they which pierced Him.
10,
I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, (I believe the day of the Lord) and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet.
So you are saying that the tribulation is after this?

It depends on what "tribulation" you are referring to. The "Great Tribulation" is long after this, but John and all those professing Messiah were constantly undergoing some kind of tribulation as Rev 1:9 shows. Nero put them through much tribulation.
 
It depends on what "tribulation" you are referring to. The "Great Tribulation" is long after this, but John and all those professing Messiah were constantly undergoing some kind of tribulation as Rev 1:9 shows. Nero put them through much tribulation.
Thanks for your response.
 
Well, if we choose to think that the mark of the beast is just some mark you allow on your body that is only going to happen at the end times(now) Then all those who have passed on, never had a chance to be tested, unless you believe they are all alive to this day, right? And isn't God more interested in our integrity, godly character of His man whom was made in His image before the fall? A mark on our skin that really does not deteriorate ones character at all. But to pledge our allegiance to one who's actions oppose God's Word, would, but then again, all who ever lived would have to be alive today for the testing wouldn't they?
But, if the test of one HAVING the mark of a/the beast is ones thinking and doing in life, rather they are like a Cain mindset of wicked behavior in their lifetime or were they like Abel who pleased God in their daily sacrifices to not live a life of wickedness, then all had a chance to be tested already.
Jesus said, I am the resurrection and the life, though one be dead(in his sins) yet shall he live who believe in me and shall never die!
I do however believe that Jesus made a point of showing that John the disciple could remain "alive" until his coming if Jesus wanted him to. But I do not really believe that all keep returning if they have not received Christ. Jesus said
Heb 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:KJV
Dead and Living or Alive have two meanings in the Bible. One is literal the other meaning is spiritual. Dead in the ground, Dead to God, Alive/Living above ground, or Alive/Living unto God by His Spirit. Once Jesus paid the debt, the graves of the OT saint were opened and they came out, Yet no where does it show they died again, nor does it say they went with Jesus as he ascended into heaven.

There Is no man who is dead yet. Tho while they live they are dead.and there is no man in heaven yet except him who came from heaven. For death of the flesh is temporary . Everyone who has died in the flesh both the righteous and the wicked will come up out of there graves at the last day.

But to die in the spirit that's the second death. The death Jesus spoke of .

Now the question u asking is concerning judgment.
If I'm correct u are saying that if the elect who is appointed to suffer the afflictions of the last days what about the saints that were before them?

I will answer u. John was the greatest servant of god because it is written among them born of men there is none greater than John the Baptist. If John was the greatest and he suffered afflictions. Being killed for god sake what about the weakest in the body of Christ? Do u remember the man who was condemn with Jesus on the cross? The man who said lord remember me and god said verily I say unto u this day shall thy be with me in paradise.

Now hearken to what I just said. John who was the greatest. Who did many works for the kingdom of heaven. Who did many works Christ and god in so much he was the greatest among those born of a women.

Yet this man who was on the cross there was no saying of good works he did. He was gonna be killed n yet this man believed so much on Christ that tho he wasn't great in works as John The Lord god accepted him because of his faith that was given to him by the father. So that Jesus said to him that he will be in paradise with him.

Verily verily I say unto u, there is no greater love a man can have for his friend save he give his life.

Any man can say lord I accept u to my life but only a choosen vessel of god will die for his god if tried to death so that this man the murderer that was condemned with Jesus was equal with John to inherit the kingdom tho John was greater in deed .

Everyone of gods children will suffer afflictions n not small but in the season of when affliction or persecution arises there afflictions will be many. How can a man say he is of us if he never suffered with us for the gospel which was ordain to us.

The saints of the last days are not like the saints of old. To me the saints of old where way more righteous than the saints of these days.

But god god being perfect in all manner of the word saw it fit to give the saints of the last days the greatest affliction . And if you are afflicted or persecuted for Christ sake that is your glory.

So god gave us the greatest glory.

What what will u do? Will u worship baghdadi and his god and take the mark of the beast because u was hungry or thirsty or u feared for your life?

Or will u suffer as the saints did before us, will u be killed for your god like the murderer who was with Jesus died with him defending his god.

Or or will u be like Esau who sold his birth right for a piece of meat.

Know . Every man who dies for Christ was choosen n every one who takes the mark or worship baghdadi was not choosen

For it's written I will have mercy upon whom I will n I will harden whom I will.

What will u do
 
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