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How do we know we are right?

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Dear Brother Classik, in Christ we belong to God and regardless the state of spiritual growth we experience God has received us.

Rom 14:1 Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations.
Rom 14:2 For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs.
Rom 14:3 Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him.
Rom 14:4 Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.
Rom 14:5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind. ( I will add here that if we do things we aren't persuaded of affects our conscience to where we fear to approach God when we need Him the most.)
Rom 14:6 He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.
Rom 14:7 For none of us liveth to himself, and no man dieth to himself.
Rom 14:8 For whether we live, we live unto the Lord; and whether we die, we die unto the Lord: whether we live therefore, or die, we are the Lord's.
 
Wrg1405 said:
Because everyone who disagrees with us is wrong.
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perfect answer for Classik.

Over the years something i have noticed is Scripture does not read exactly as it did before. Having heard Scripture all my life hearing it as a child is different then as a old woman..

Heb 5:13 For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.
Heb 5:14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.
 
reba said:
perfect answer for Classik.

Over the years something i have noticed is Scripture does not read exactly as it did before. Having heard Scripture all my life hearing it as a child is different then as a old woman..

Heb 5:13 For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.
Heb 5:14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.
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Do you mean in terms of translation?
 
Classik said:
So when we interpret the scriptures or respond to posts how do we know we are right?
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It is always the predictable track, to find ourselves "in the right." And we constantly seek to be only right, because we seek to avoid Gods Judgments on that ill/dire side of the ledgers of scripture.

The reality is we are sinners, saved by the Grace and Mercy of God in Christ, given to us by His Spirit in us.

Grace is unmerited favor. So, we constantly bask in Grace, but we seldom observe our own conditions of being "unmerited" and instead, seek to remove what can't be removed, which is our unmerited status.

Rather than seeing "how right" we are, we are better served to observe our "unmerited" status, because that's reality. Romans 3:9 tells us we're no better than anyone else.

There is no "right" in the land of the unmerited. There is however a delusion available, of not being in that seat.
 
Maybe it's not our decision at all.
Here's Classik in the end.


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smaller said:
I doubt any of us want "ourselves" as we currently perceive ourselves, for eternity. I certainly DON'T. Not interested in my 'self' whatsoever, for eternity?

Forget that! I can barely tolerate my "self" in the here and now.
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Wow, we can agree on something.
I can barely tolerate you either.
 
smaller said:
If I recall correctly "I" died. Fairly thrilled to death with my replacement.
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Rollo Tamasi said:
Yes, I agree.
I know the "old" me is horrible and ugly, but the "new" me is tolerable.
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I must say that I wasn't thrilled to death, was never taught what it meant to die and if I did what was I replaced with. So I think I'm the same old me.

To me I suffer with the old man I is still horrible and ugly and I'm still the old man and quite frankly I don't like me or love me.

I suppose that's why I asked the question "Do you still like yourself. So for some reason I am not even at the tolerable stage.
 
Rollo Tamasi said:
Yes, I agree.
I know the "old" me is horrible and ugly, but the "new" me is tolerable.
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I am quite anxiously awaiting a "full transfer." If the "dead me" could speed it along, I would, but of course that is not in my power, seeing that I have none.

Oh, that God would dance on my string! Oh, wait! No, that's not a very good idea a'tall. Dead men don't pull strings. They think they do, for some strange "reverb" effect I think. Still wanting to be in control. I kinda gave up on that and the LIFE I do have became much more enjoyable.
 
Classik said:
So when we interpret the scriptures or respond to posts how do we know we are right?
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When we interpret Scripture, we need to realize that we should be speaking in degrees of certainty. There are some things that are simple and clear, and we can be quite certain we are right. But there are a lot of things in Scripture that aren't as clear and some that really are not clear at all. With those such things we shouldn't be as certain, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't have an opinion as to what we think they mean. Our opinion though, needs to be well informed, based on our personal study of the Scripture, which should include various theologians,teachers, commentaries, and lexicons.
 
One of of challenges or claims or assertions is that the Spirit speaks through us (and in most cases or in some cases): and we are always right. Problem is, some have been deceived into believing some so-called "thus saith the Lord" - when He has not said.

Brother Paul has it right when he always said: Not the Lord, but I; or, not I but the Lord.
 
Classik said:
So when we interpret the scriptures or respond to posts how do we know we are right?
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Classik,

When you read your local newspaper or The New York Times (online), how do you know you are reading and interpreting them accurately? You use the same principles when you interpret Scripture and respond to posts.

When was the last time your local church conducted a workshop with a title such as, 'How to interpret the Bible for the twenty-first century: Hermeneutics for the Bible and the real world'?

There are fundamental principles for interpreting Scriptures and any other written document. What are they and are we using them?

As for responding to posts on CFnet, we need to use the same principles of interpretation. What are they?

Oz
 
Classik said:
One of of challenges or claims or assertions is that the Spirit speaks through us (and in most cases or in some cases): and we are always right. Problem is, some have been deceived into believing some so-called "thus saith the Lord" - when He has not said.

Brother Paul has it right when he always said: Not the Lord, but I; or, not I but the Lord.
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In approximately 50 years as a believer, I've heard some crazy things delivered with a 'Thus says the Lord' stamp of approval. Often this is nothing more than a subjective opinion that comes with nothing more than individual clout.
 
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