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How Do You Feel About This

kiwimac said:
Let me be clear. Here in NZ if you are a store-keeper and you deny people your services based on their ethnicity, age, gender or religion you will be fined.
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Freedom is a wonderful thing, and we have more of it than you do!

(But less than we DID have...)
 
well ok. lets really through this dont serve them evil muslims and that statement by mark into a loop.

lets say you own the store and see me in my army uniform and another muslim man in the same uniform.

to whom would deny service? and remember you can see the name on the uniforms.mine would be a jewish one and the muslims would read salaam(actual name and a person i did meet in wlc).

and the muslim did a tour in iraq.
 
Danus said:
We're not talking about NZ. This America. The show in question took place in America, which is currently trying to turn itself into something else, but never the less it's currently still America. When we become "American'ts" then I'm sure we'll be fined for hurting the feelings of others as well.



:chin Are they our brothers and sisters? I don't think so.
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I was referring to our Christian brothers and sisters in Islamic countries. I could never say Muslims are brothers and sisters - that would be directly ignoring Galatians 1 and many other Bible passages. While I will not accept their religion as truth, I believe we should treat them civilly so that we can at the very least witness to them without sounding hypocritical and hateful.
 
How do I personally feel about it?

1. It's his business. He can serve whoever he wants.

2. Islam is a cancer that needs to be wiped off the face of the Earth.

Mario
 
kiwimac said:
Islam is not a cancer and no one has the right to discriminate.
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Sure they do. Here in America you don't have to serve someone in your place of business. You can tell them to leave. In fact, you don't have to do business with anyone you don't like. This is America and we have that right legally. :study
 
so if one steals from you does time and yet comes to your store would serve him?

i wouldnt.but personally a muslim doesnt bother me that much. however if he said something that i find offense such death to isreal or jews. he will be shown the door.
 
Pizzaguy said:
Islam is evil - pack them up, deport them - problem solved.
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would you accept at least that your opinion is hateful and bigoted? Don't just dodge the question by saying "Muslims are the real hateful bigots" because I'm not speaking for or about them I'm asking about your position.
 
Danus said:
Sure they do. Here in America you don't have to serve someone in your place of business. You can tell them to leave. In fact, you don't have to do business with anyone you don't like. This is America and we have that right legally. :study
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Which is one reason I despise most Americans. You institutionalise prejudice and call it personal choice.
 
kiwimac said:
Which is one reason I despise most Americans. You institutionalise prejudice and call it personal choice.
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i guess you would serve the kkk in the full get up or the neo nazi that have the swatiska on them.

i dont see all muslims as such but i can say this, since i have been in an islamic country and seen how they live , they are bigoted toward women.
not all of them are bad as one has to see through the old pc chauvanism that is there. but hey if i brought them in with their wives in full burquas and they wante do live nz would your country allow them to deny them rights to women, to beat them.

i think not.
 
I wouldn't deny someone service because of that. We live in a democracy, and are not some Communist state. EVERYONE deserves rights no matter what their beliefs are, the Bible says to treat others how we want to be treated. Anyone who denies them service, is defying the Bible. Because I GUARANTEE they'd be mad too if they walked into Wal-Mart and they were thrown out.
 
EricTheBaptist said:
I wouldn't deny someone service because of that. We live in a democracy, and are not some Communist state. EVERYONE deserves rights no matter what their beliefs are, the Bible says to treat others how we want to be treated. Anyone who denies them service, is defying the Bible. Because I GUARANTEE they'd be mad too if they walked into Wal-Mart and they were thrown out.
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The United States of America is a Constitutional Republic, not a democracy.

Discrimination is not a sustainable economic policy in a free market, especially when it involves limiting streams of income (i.e. denying service).

Considering that the production of "How Muslims Are Treated In Texas" is purely hypothetical we are unable to truly debate, other than the reaction from unsuspecting customers, the motives of such "treatment" based on ones religion (Islam).
 
Drummer4Christ said:
The United States of America is a Constitutional Republic, not a democracy.

Discrimination is not a sustainable economic policy in a free market, especially when it involves limiting streams of income (i.e. denying service).

Considering that the production of "How Muslims Are Treated In Texas" is purely hypothetical we are unable to truly debate, other than the reaction from unsuspecting customers, the motives of such "treatment" based on ones religion (Islam).
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incorrect it's highly sustainable if the rest of the customer base turn a blind eye to it.
 
Pebbles said:
incorrect it's highly sustainable if the rest of the customer base turn a blind eye to it.
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EDIT: Even if other consumers were sympathetic to such discrimination, that still doesn't make up for lost revenue from customers being discriminated against. A business could average 100 customers per day & average $20 per customer. If the business owner denies five of those customers service, that's $100 per day in lost revenue. How is that sustainable?


How is it sustainable when competing firms target the particular market that is being discriminated against?

Discrimination is only sustainable through the heavy hand of government (i.e. Jim Crow) not the invisible hand of the free market
 
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