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How does Jesus Feel About Remarrige

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What is Marriage Most think if they have a Marriage License there married, or if they see a Man/Pastor.This is the Traditions of Men, Man cannot marrie you. God did not Ordain Man to Marrie you. I will Show this to you By the WORD of GOD Lets Go to the beginning, When God First Made Man and Women

Gen 2:24 - Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.25 And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.

You See? were is the Man that Marries you? Were is the Marriage License? God marries you not Man When you Leave your Father and your Mother and Cleave to your wife and you COME ONE with her YOUR MARRIED, God Joined you TOGATHER and it is till DEATH do you PART
You are Bound by Gods LAW as Long as one or the Other is ALIVE Romans 7:2

Lets see what JESUS says about MARRIAGE!

Matt 19:4- Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, 5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?


Matt 19:6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.

Jesus Goes back to the beginning telling us how we get Married Agin when you Come one YOUR MARRIED God Joined you Togather this is the Marriege of God.

Even if you Come one with a Harlot God Joins you toGather

1 Cor 6:15-Know ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ? shall I then take the members of Christ, and make them the members of an harlot? God forbid. 16 What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh.

All People Does is Marring and Given in Marriage When you go and Mess Around.

Matt 24:37-But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, 39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

If your DEFILED every time you come one you are Marrieing and Given in Marriage

Luke 17:27 They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.

Im not Saying marriage is Bad but when Virgins marrie there is no SIN 1 Cor 7:28

Heb 13:4 - Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge.


When you Leave your FIRST LOVE and Marrie another you Commit Adultery, Marriage is till Death do you Part. You cannot Marrie unless the other is Dead ,Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.

Even if the Husband or the Wife commited Fornication aginst one or th Other, Even if you Did not Do any thing You cannot Marrie Agin or the one that Commited Fornication cannot Marrie, you cannot break Gods Law till Death do you Part Lets read what Jesus SAID

Matt 5:32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.

Matt 19:9 And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.

Jesus go on Saying

Mark 10:11-And he saith unto them, Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her. 12 And if a woman shall put away her husband, and be married to another, she committeth adultery.

Agin Jesus Said

Luke 16:18 Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband committeth adultery.

It does not Mattor who left who or Why they left , Just like when Eve ate the Fruit of the Tree Eve Told God the Serpent beguiled me to Eat , she could not excuse her Self And God still punished her, And Adam told God the Women which thou gavest me gave me to Eat and i did Eat, God Still Punished Him No Excuse.

Even John told Herod it is not Lawful to take his Brothers Wife . John Lost His Life because of this

Matt 14:3 For Herod had laid hold on John, and bound him, and put him in prison for Herodias' sake, his brother Philip's wife.For John said unto him, It is not lawful for thee to have her.

What did Jesus tell the Women at the well?

John 4:16 Jesus saith unto her, Go, call thy husband, and come hither. 17 The woman answered and said, I have no husband. Jesus said unto her, Thou hast well said, I have no husband: 18 For thou hast had five husbands; and he whom thou now hast is not thy husband: in that saidst thou truly.

Jesus Told her that the Husband she has now is not her Husband, Because she had more than one.

Just like the Women taken in Adultery what did Jesus tell Her?

John 8:10 Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee? 11 , No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.

Jesus told her He did not Condemne her, and he Told her to Go and Sin no more.

As Long as her husband is alive she cannot marrie She is Bound to Gods LAW

Romans 7:2 For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband.

The bible Says if she Marries wile he is Alive she will be Called an Adulteress. If he is Dead she is no Adulteress

Romans 7:2 So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.

Agin Gods word says the Same

1 Cor 7:39 The wife is bound by the law as long as her husband liveth; but if her husband be dead, she is at liberty to be married to whom she will; only in the Lord.

Most will not except this Saying

1 Tim 5:11 - But the younger widows refuse: for when they have begun to wax wanton against Christ, they will marry; 12 Having damnation, because they have cast off their first faith.


Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. 1 Cor 6:9-10

Some ask How can we Repent. All men cannot receive this saying, save they to whom it is given.

Matt 19:12 For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.

This is Why The Deciples Said if this be the Cause it is better not to Marrie
 
The gospels show us that Jesus seemed pretty clear about marriage and divorce. I have often wondered if these standards he advocated had anything to do with his mission statement of sending out his followers to the countryside in pairs to share meals and heal.
 
That was a pretty lengthy OP. There were only a few grounds for divorce and remarraige given by moses and I do not see Jesus ever saying anything againts them. In curiousity though, are you suggesting remarraige at all is a sin?
 
Hi friends,

There is indeed a full volum of stuff about why God joins people together in Marriage and how single people should act. Simple conclussion about the instatution, it is up to God to give each person their gifts.

Paul said "you are complete in Him". That did not say be married or single, just live according to his word.
 
Jesus did speak on the issue of remarriage. I will try to share the passage with you.


Matthew – Chapter 5:32

32. But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, causes her to become an adulteress, and anyone who marries the divorced woman commits adultery.


Matthew – Chapter 19:4-9

4. “Haven’t you read,†he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’ 5. and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’? 6. So they are no longer two, but one. Therefore what God has joined together, let man not separate.†7. “Why then,“ they asked, “did Moses command that a man give his wife a certificate of divorce and send her away?†8. Jesus replied, “Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning. 9. I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, and marries another woman commits adultery.â€Â


Luke 16:18
18"Anyone who divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery, and the man who marries a divorced woman commits adultery.



The apostles later too wrote some on this matter:


First Corinthians - Chapter 7:39

39. A woman is bound to her husband as long as he lives. But if her husband dies, she is free to marry anyone she wishes, but he must belong to the Lord.
 
So scripture does seem to allow for the concept of remarriage. I'm curious to see Elijah's thoughts on the passages you've brought up Danielle.
 
Lostlamb quoted:
Luke 16:18
18"Anyone who divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery, and the man who marries a divorced woman commits adultery.
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How confusing that so many of the mainline translators have translated ἀÀολÅÉ as "divorce"! The word literally means "loose from" and normally means "send away". For example consider the following sentence:

And (aorist participle of ἀÀολÅÉ) the crowds, he got into the boat and went to the region of Magadan. Matthew 15:39

What did Jesus do? Did He divorce the crowds? Or did He send them away?

The NT Greek word for "divorce" is ἀÀοÃĀαÃιον. Indeed, the Pharisees challenged Jesus with: "Why then did Moses command one to give a certificate of divorce, and to send her away?" Matthew 19:7. In this sentence "divorce" and "send away" both occur in the same sentence. They have different meanings. The Pharisees believed in legitimizing a forced separation by giving the woman a certificate of divorce and making it official.

A man who sends away his wife (forces a separation) and copulates with another woman commits adultery, and the man who copulates with a woman who has been sent way commits adultery. For the woman is still married. Make no mistake. The word "marry" sometimes means simply "copulate". Eusebius quoted Clement of Alexandria concerning the Nicolaitans:

AT this time the so-called sect of the Nicolaitans made its appearance and lasted for a very short time. Mention is made of it in the Apocalypse of John. They boasted that the author of their sect was Nicolaus, one of the deacons who, with Stephen, were appointed by the apostles for the purpose of ministering to the poor. Clement of Alexandria, in the third book of his Stromata, relates the following things concerning him. “They say that he had a beautiful wife, and after the ascension of the Savior, being accused by the apostles of jealousy, he led her into their midst and gave permission to any one that wished to marry her. For they say that this was in accord with that saying of his, that one ought to abuse the flesh..."

Did Nicolaus (according to the story) permit several other men to enter into a legal marriage contract with his wife? Preposterous! He (supposedly) allowed them to copulate with her.

There is no doubt that, as it is written, "God hates divorce." But that doesn't mean that divorce and remarriage is adultery. That doesn't appear to be what Jesus was teaching.

Paul said in I Corinthians 7:27

Have you been bound to a woman? Do not seek to be free.
What does that mean? Is not being bound to a woman tantamount to being married to a woman? And does not "seeking to be free" mean "seeking a divorce"? Paul recommends that a married person ought not to seek a divorce.

Have you been loosed from a wife? Do not seek a wife. (The Greek word means either "woman" or "wife") What does it mean to have been loosed from a wife other than divorce? It doesn't seem to mean to have been loosed by the death of your wife, for he was speaking of divorce in the previous verse. Paul recommends that a divorced person ought not to seek marriage. But notice his next words in verse 28!

But if you marry, you do not sin ...

Now according to the interpretation of Jesus' words by many, if the divorced person marries, he would be sinning. We either have to say that Paul was teaching contrary to our Lord, or else we have not correctly understood the words of our Lord.

Now Paul was well acquainted with the teachings of our Lord concerning marriage and separtion. He distinguished what the Lord Jesus taught about these matters, and what he himself taught:

To the married, I command, not I, but the Lord, that a wife should not separate from her husband. I Cor 7:10

Here the Greek word clearly means "separate". Thus Jesus teaching was about separation and not divorce.

But if she separates, let her remain unmarried (that is, single), or else be reconciled to her husband, and let the husband not send her away. Vs 11

This also, is included as that which the Lord, taught ... what Jesus taught.

Then Paul states what he teaches, not what Jesus taught:

To the rest I say, and not the Lord, that if any brother has a wife who is without faith, and she consents to dwell with him, he should not leave her. Vs 12

In summary, both Jesus and Paul teach that husbands and wives should not separate. If they do separate, the one who takes up with someone else commits adultery against his spouse. If you are married, you should not seek a divorce. If you do divorce, you should not seek marriage. But if you choose to do so anyway, you have not sinned.
 
My thoughts on the topic and passages summed up:

Divorce be it for reason of one spouse being unfaithful or not, leads to one or both parties being adulters. Especially if one or both remarry to someone else.

The only time remarriage is okay and not resulting in adultery is when the spouse of the person has passed on.

Just my thoughts.....
 
Let's try a scenario or two.

The man is unfaithful and he divorces his wife. If she re-marries is she in sin?

The man is abusive and his wife divorces him, is she in sin?
 
Blazin Bones said:
Let's try a scenario or two.

The man is unfaithful and he divorces his wife. If she re-marries is she in sin?

The man is abusive and his wife divorces him, is she in sin?
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In accordance to scripture, the husband makes his wife an adultress by divorcing her. So yes, she would be sinning by remarrying. God meant marriage to be for one man and one woman. If the couple can reconcile it is something perhaps Jesus would have encouraged. Just my thoughts....

Regretably I feel the same would apply for a spouse who is abused. That is perhaps why separation would be the best option.....over divorce.

You asked a very hard question Blazin.....you really did. For both to me, from how I have read scripture are acts of unfaithfulness. For a man is to treat a woman as he would himself and love her as Christ would the church. So such actions as abuse, could possibly be interpreted as a form of unfaithfulness, but I am not certain. That one I feel could be left up for debate.......
 
Well, you bring up a good point Danielle. You suggest that such actions as abuse could be interpreted as unfaithfulness. I would agree that this is a very valid interpretation.

When Jesus taught of Adultery, he suggested that merely looking at a woman lustfully was adultery. If Jesus equated this to adultery, unfaithfulness, why shouldn't we?

Now suppose we extend this logic a bit more toward abuse. A Husband is responsible for loving his wife as Christ loves the Church. Christ died for the church. A Husband who hits and abuses his wife physically or I would even say emotionally is doing the exact opposite of loving the way he is responsible for. In his abuse, he is being unfaithful to the responsibility of be slef-sacrificing in the care of his wife. This I would believe is a form of marital unfaithfulness and thus grounds for divorce and exceptable remarraige.

The wife in this case has done nothing to sin against her husband as she has submitted to him even to the point of abuse and scorn which she is not obligated to. If she has done nothing wrong, what cause would there be for not permitting remarriage.

Some might view this as a slight stretch of logic, but Jesus taught us to use discernment when we study his teachings. If you are led to disagree, so be it, but I can see remarraige in such cases as acceptable to the Lord. Especially since Jesus is able to forgive the sin of a wrongful marriage.
 
Blazin Bones said:
Well, you bring up a good point Danielle. You suggest that such actions as abuse could be interpreted as unfaithfulness. I would agree that this is a very valid interpretation.

When Jesus taught of Adultery, he suggested that merely looking at a woman lustfully was adultery. If Jesus equated this to adultery, unfaithfulness, why shouldn't we?

Now suppose we extend this logic a bit more toward abuse. A Husband is responsible for loving his wife as Christ loves the Church. Christ died for the church. A Husband who hits and abuses his wife physically or I would even say emotionally is doing the exact opposite of loving the way he is responsible for. In his abuse, he is being unfaithful to the responsibility of be slef-sacrificing in the care of his wife. This I would believe is a form of marital unfaithfulness and thus grounds for divorce and exceptable remarraige.

The wife in this case has done nothing to sin against her husband as she has submitted to him even to the point of abuse and scorn which she is not obligated to. If she has done nothing wrong, what cause would there be for not permitting remarriage.

Some might view this as a slight stretch of logic, but Jesus taught us to use discernment when we study his teachings. If you are led to disagree, so be it, but I can see remarraige in such cases as acceptable to the Lord. Especially since Jesus is able to forgive the sin of a wrongful marriage.
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Thank you for sharing your thoughts Blaze, I find them insightful.
 
It does not Matter, if there is Abuse or Not, If the Wife Divorces her Husband, And Marries Another she Commits Adultery

Who is True Man Word or The Word of God?

Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.
Heb 13:8
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And if a woman shall put away her husband, and be married to another, she committeth adultery.
Mark 10:11-

Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.
Heb 13:8
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Same thing for the Husband

Luke 16:18 Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery

Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.
Heb 13:8
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She is Bound to the Law as Long as her Husband is Alive, This is Why the Word of God Says

Romans 7:2 So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 1:1
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Elijah, I think you are overlooking something. Your passages from Mark and Luke only call out the one who initiates the divorce. Jesus did not say the other was guilty of adultry.

Also in the case of the Romans passage, you jump to assumption that Paul is accounting for divorce as well. The passage in Romans does not mention divorce at all. If it did, Paul would have to admit that Moses, who received the law from God allowed for divorce or he would not accurately be representing the law.

I agree that the Lord is the same yesterday, today and forever, but if He allowed for divorce in the laws of the Old covenant, how can there not be room for divorce in the new?
 
LostLamb said:
My thoughts on the topic and passages summed up:

Divorce be it for reason of one spouse being unfaithful or not, leads to one or both parties being adulters. Especially if one or both remarry to someone else.

The only time remarriage is okay and not resulting in adultery is when the spouse of the person has passed on.

Just my thoughts.....
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Well, Lostlamb I'm glad there's someone out there that calls it the way it is. You obviously are not lost :D

I agree 110% This is such a sensitive topic, and I have divorced friends that know my stance, but I have to believe God. I always say if one is in that much misery (abuse or whatever) then divorce but stay single after that. At least there is no adultery committed.

My wife and I are going strong after 22 years. I wish I could say the same for many of my Christian friends, and have to wonder where God was in their lives for them to make a "mistake" like that. God STOPPED me by my own confession from marrying the wrong woman which I almost did. As versed as I am with scripture, I have yet to understand why God does not do the same for His so-called children.

But no matter what, you will find a lot of debate on this subject for people to placate their searing conscious because the very fact that this is brought up over and over again shows that there is unrest in the concept of divorce. And no wonder. It is NOT right no matter how we try to talk ourselves out of it.
 
Do you have that same kind of searing conscience, having looked at a woman who is not your wife in lust? No man or woman can say that they have not done that at one time in their lives, and Jesus said that if we look at another person and lust after them in our hearts we have committed adultery. As God allowed Moses to give a law permitting divorce, I cannot agree that it is wrong in all circumstances. God would not sanctify any law that He did not give himself. :)
 
tim_from_pa said:
Well, Lostlamb I'm glad there's someone out there that calls it the way it is. You obviously are not lost :D

I agree 110% This is such a sensitive topic, and I have divorced friends that know my stance, but I have to believe God. I always say if one is in that much misery (abuse or whatever) then divorce but stay single after that. At least there is no adultery committed.

My wife and I are going strong after 22 years. I wish I could say the same for many of my Christian friends, and have to wonder where God was in their lives for them to make a "mistake" like that. God STOPPED me by my own confession from marrying the wrong woman which I almost did. As versed as I am with scripture, I have yet to understand why God does not do the same for His so-called children.

But no matter what, you will find a lot of debate on this subject for people to placate their searing conscious because the very fact that this is brought up over and over again shows that there is unrest in the concept of divorce. And no wonder. It is NOT right no matter how we try to talk ourselves out of it.
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I do not recall Christ creating a 13th commandment of "Thou shall not Remarry." This point alone makes the issue of remarraige an issue of discernment. I have presented fairly sound reasoning to show how remarraige cannot be sin in all cases. If you would like to reason againt that then please do so. You suggest your opinion to be fact, so I encourage you to provide the scriptural evidence to prove your case.

Look at Deuteronomy 24:1-2. If a man found an issue of uncleaness in a woman and lost a taste for her he could divorce her and they were both permitted to remarry. The text does not specify what the issue would be, but guesses can be made. However, these laws of Moses were given and allowed by God for HIS people.

Elijah has pointed out how God is the same forever, so why would that have changed with Christ? Either God allows remarraige or He doesn't, but clearly he did in the Old Testament.
 
by Blazin Bones on Fri Nov 21, 2008 8:04 am
do not recall Christ creating a 13th commandment of "Thou shall not Remarry." This point alone makes the issue of remarraige an issue of discernment. I have presented fairly sound reasoning to show how remarraige cannot be sin in all cases. If you would like to reason againt that then please do so. You suggest your opinion to be fact, so I encourage you to provide the scriptural evidence to prove your case.

Look at Deuteronomy 24:1-2. If a man found an issue of uncleaness in a woman and lost a taste for her he could divorce her and they were both permitted to remarry. The text does not specify what the issue would be, but guesses can be made. However, these laws of Moses were given and allowed by God for HIS people.

Elijah has pointed out how God is the same forever, so why would that have changed with Christ? Either God allows remarraige or He doesn't, but clearly he did in the Old Testament.by Blazin Bones on Fri Nov 21, 2008 8:04 am
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Thou Shalt not Commit Adultery is the 7th Commandment

Now when you Go out and Put Away your Wife or Husband, and you Marrie Another, You Do Commit Adultery, and you Break the 7th Commandment thou Shalt not Commit Adultery

Now who is True , Man , Or God?

Is not Marriage till Death do you Part? Death is the only Way to Break the Bond, God Joines you Togather when you Come one - Matt 19:6

Luke 16:18 Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband committeth adultery.

And the Word of God Clearly tells us that if we Divorce , And Remarrie we Commit Adultery

And who ever Marries those that are Put Away Commits Adultery.
Matt 5:32 Matt 19:9 Mark 10:11 Luke 16:18

Romans 7:2 For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband.

The bible Says if she Marries wile he is Alive she will be Called an Adulteress. If he is Dead she is no Adulteress

Romans 7:2 So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.

Now in the Time of Old, They Could have more than one Wife, But now that Jesus Died, Jesus Fulfiled all of this this is Why the Word of God Says

the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:
Acts 17:30
 
You will find Elija, and I disagree on many things, but on this one I agree with him. Death is the only thing, that breaks a marriage in Gods eyes.

No there is no 13th commandment, just a few simple requests, the rest is up to you. In fact a marriage is constituted in such a way, that 90% of all people are probably living in adultery, especially in this day and age.

There is quite a difference in mans laws, and Gods laws.
 
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