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Shilohsfoal
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I believe Donald Trump will give the Israeli government an army that will attempt to keep Israel safe as he says he will keep Israel safe.
The army is the second beast in revelation 13 .The beast which makes fire come down from heaven and gives everyone in Israel the mark of the Israeli government
The armed forces below ,corresponds to the second beast in revelation 13.
Daniel 11:31
31 “His armed forces will rise up to desecrate the temple fortress and will abolish the daily sacrifice. Then they will set up the abomination that causes desolation.
The saints in Israel who do not worship the beast or it's image or recieve it'sark will them be put to death for testifying of Christ and for the word of God.Thier persecution by the Israeli government and the Israelis who worship Israel will cause the saints to be i.prisimed and killed.
Daniel 11:33-35
Those who are wise will instruct many, though for a time they will fall by the sword or be burned or captured or plundered.
When they fall, they will receive a little help, and many who are not sincere will join them.
Some of the wise will stumble, so that they may be refined, purified and made spotless until the time of the end, for it will still come at the appointed time.
Shilohsfoal
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Donald Trump.
“I kept Israel safe, remember that. I kept Israel safe,” he said in a video posted to Truth Social. “Nobody else will, nobody else can, and I know all of the players.”
It's been reported he said this by many news outlets.
Daniel 11 chronicles the coming kings of Persia and Greece. The wars between the Ptolemies Egypt and the Seleucids of Syria and the persecution led by Antiochus. Daniel 8-12 is about the first prophetic sixty weeks of Daniels seventy weeks vision God gave him as there is no longer a literal temple fortress or any daily sacrifices.
This is how the prophetic 70 weeks break down using the Lunar Calendar which has 360 days.
1. The 7 weeks - This 49 year period is the time where the 'commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem' was given. It would take 49 years to accomplish this, and it began in 445 BC.
2. The 62 weeks - From the end point on the rebuilding of the walls, until Messiah was to be revealed, it would be 62 weeks, or 434 years.
3. The last week - This 7 year period is yet future as there is a gap between the 62 weeks and the last 7 year period when Israel rejected the Messiah and He went to the cross and then came the time of the Gentiles until that of God again turning His attention to the Jews and Israel whom He saved a remnant of the twelve tribes.
Adding the 7 weeks, or 49 years, to the 62 weeks, or 434 years, brings us to a total of exactly 483 from the time that the commandment went forth to rebuild the walls unto the very day that Jesus was paraded through the streets of Jerusalem just prior to going to the cross. Adding the 7 years to that of 483 brings us to 490 years.
Thank you for that, but why do you see Trump as being the son of perdition if you say he wants to save Israel from destruction?
I can only assume you know nothing about who or what the son of perdition is all about as you name Donald Trump the son of perdition/last antichrist. Read 2Thessalonians 2 and Rev 13, 17 - 18 plus many other scriptures I could give.
Shilohsfoal
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That is Jason's interpretation of Daniel 11.But im not a follower of Jason and the holy spirit didn't teach me that interpretation.
Shilohsfoal
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Yes in read 2 Thes 2.
Paul is talking about the king of the north in Daniel 11 who exalts himself above all.
Daniel is describing a narcissist.Someone like Trump who is better than everyone else.A know it all who is better,knows more,has better genes than everyone else .A very stable genius.
Daniel 11
36 And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done.
37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.
38 But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things.
39 Thus shall he do in the most strong holds with a strange god, whom he shall acknowledge and increase with glory: and he shall cause them to rule over many, and shall divide the land for gain.
Trump also mentioned deviding the land too.I expect he will.
Shilohsfoal
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Scripture does not say the son of perdition doesn't try to save apostate Israel.In fact scripture shows the son of perdition flattering the apostates .
Scripture shows the king of the north giving Israel an army and that army occupying Israel for 42 months.During this time the saints in Israel are persecuted by Israel much like things were 2000 years ago In fact ,things are very much like 2000 years ago when the leaders of judea wanted Christ dead .Some things just don't seem to change much.
It has nothing to do with jasonc interpretation, but what is written in Daniel 8-11. I follow no man's teachings, but to only Spiritually discern what is being taught by others.
Why not name Biden as he is against supporting and helping Israel and supports their enemies instead wanting to send them billions to support Hamas military.
But, you believe how you want, but don't expect many of us to believe you. You might want to go way back to the Babylonian Empire and work your way through all four Empires and there will you find who the son of perdition is.
Shilohsfoal
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Sorry,but the interpretation you gave of Daniel 11 was started by Jason.
That teaching is attributed to Jason and is not considered canonical.It is not even included in the Hebrew Bible.
Shilohsfoal
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The king of the north in Daniel gives Israel an army to defend Israel.
Biden would never do that .He would never put boots on the ground in Israel.The king of the north will.
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The US is funding both sides of this conflict. The $10 billion of Iranian funds that Biden released is supposed to be used for humanitarian purposes, but I would be surprised if none of it made its way to Hamas or other enemies of Israel. And, of course, Israel gets billions in American aid every year.
It is found in scripture as I and many others have given you the scriptures and Biblical history and prophecy found in the OT and NT. But, feel free to believe as you will, but know others will oppose your beliefs.
Never said Biden supported Israel. Maybe he is the son of perdition
Shilohsfoal
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No,antiochus is not found in the word of God .
No where in the Bible is antiochus found.The name antiochus is found in Jason's interpretation of Daniel prophecy but is not found anywhere in Daniel prophecy.
Shilohsfoal
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The son of perdition supports the Israeli goverment.He does exactly what evangelicals want him to do.Never said Biden supported Israel. Maybe he is the son of perdition
Just remember,Jesus said imany will come in his name who decieved many.They are evangelicals who cause people to fall away and recieve the mark of the beast.
King Antiochus Epiphanes isn't mentioned by name in Daniel 11, yet it is the scriptures that refer to him as being one who attacked Jerusalem and executed many Jews. This is why we also need to study the history of those certain eras in order to understand the prophecies found written in Daniel 8-11.
You never even looked it up for yourself as during its long history, Jerusalem has been destroyed at least twice, besieged 23 times, attacked 52 times, and captured and recaptured 44 times. As King Antiochus was an evil king it will also be in the end during the 3 1/2 year reign of the son of perdition that will take control over Jerusalem and the whole world causing all to take the mark of this beast, Rev 13, or die a martyr's death by being beheaded for the witness of Christ, Revelation 20:4.
Donald Trump is only one name of the many many names throughout history that some claim to be the son of perdition being the last antichrist. Seen so many of these names come and go and the list goes on, but you see the son of perdition being a good guy, which clearly comes against 2Thess 2:1-12.
Carry_Your_Name
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One theory says one month of 30 days between the first half and the second half of the seven year tribulation, hence the 1290 days.
Shilohsfoal
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The fact that you believe Donald Trump is a good guy explains it all.
You probably believe Benjamin netanyahu is a good guy as well.
As for history.
Jason claimed to he abomination of desolation mentioned by the prophet Daniel was placed in Jerusalem in 167 bc.
Jesus claimed the abomination of desolation mentioned by the prophet Daniel has not been placed in Jerusalem yet.
You choose to believe Jason and discredit Jesus..
As I've stated,I'm not a follower of Jason.I believe Jesus.
Mathew 24
15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand
16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
But you go ahead and keep teaching Jason's interpretation of Daniel to others and misleading them.
.When the truth is fulfilled ,you and everyone you have misled will not understand anything.